If you want to learn Thai to a decent basic level that gives a basic vocabulary of 2000 words , then the Linguaphone full Thai course is a very good structured course which is far superior to Benjawan Poomsan Beckers Thai for Beginners and Thai for Intermediate learners.

Beckers Thai for Advanced Readers is a good book to use after the Linguaphone course.

Sriwilai Ponmanee has some great books such as Speaking Thai 1 and 2 , 45 Thai Stories and Reading to Learn Thai.

5 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, but here we are talking Arabic Alphabet and Thai language. What you seem to not understand, is that English has not much to do with that, as many languages uses the Arabic Alphabet, and different languages will pronounce what you are on about in different ways. English speakers do not rule the world, even if you think so. That´s just a delusion.

Nice attempt but a fail. 55555

Arabic numbers. Roman alphabet.

Did you know French, German (other languages of Germanic origin) and languages originating fron Latin have simplified "PH" to "F", although German does sometimes still use PH.

It's not so much as ruling the world than a world rule.

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

You completely misunderstand my point, which is as simple as pie, for even a 3rd-grader.

We use Science and the Scientific Process to evaluate which learning methods are more effective.

Or, you can sit hunch over your tea leaves trying to guess.

Linguistics is a science, by the way.

Where did you go to school, one wonders, since this might have a bearing upon how you choose to analyse this question.

You are funny. So funny you can't see humour yourself.

There is no set "science" to learning language, as has been proven by this thread. Your method is NOT the only way to succeed, as has been shown by this thread. One doesn't have to learn script, as has been shown by this thread.

At first the OP's post was being answered, but then as usual, a perfectly decent thread descends in to petty squabbling, oneupmanship and im smarter than you by the usual suspects.

Sad!

Learning to read Thai opens up a whole new world. I realised I had been pronouncing 'Pattaya' wrong for over 10 years until I first read it in Thai - it then becomes obvious that it is pá-tá-yá

I learn Thai starting about 23 years ago with a teacher in Bangkok, learning the Thai characters (no transliteration) and learning to read first, then correct tones for the different letter groups, then speaking in real-world situations.

I learnt Lao language with a teacher in Luang Prabang, mostly to understand where a word common to Thai and Lao have different tones. I learnt to read/write Lao myself, using my existing Thai language knowledge.

Now I'm self-learning Burmese, reading and with correct pronunciation assistance from native Burmese speakers. I find myself in situations in Myanmar where no-one speaks English (or are too shy to speak it!), and then I'm forced to speak Burmese. Amazingly (to me), they seem to understand me...

52 minutes ago, foxboy said:

Learning to read Thai opens up a whole new world. I realised I had been pronouncing 'Pattaya' wrong for over 10 years until I first read it in Thai - it then becomes obvious that it is pá-tá-yá

From what I've heard over the years the majority of farlangs pronounce Pattaya wrongly, especially those in Pattaya.

But your comment is correct, most thai place names transliterated in to English on road signs are wrong. Near where I live is BangBo which would be better written as BangBor.

8 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Nice attempt but a fail. 55555

Arabic numbers. Roman alphabet.

Did you know French, German (other languages of Germanic origin) and languages originating fron Latin have simplified "PH" to "F", although German does sometimes still use PH.

It's not so much as ruling the world than a world rule.

I just said that it´s used sometimes, and it is, and therefore the best choice.

11 hours ago, mlkik said:

English uses the Roman alphabet. Hence when you translate a language into English you Romanise it.

English speaking countries use the Arabic numerals.

You have lost any credibility on any posts regarding learning a new language.

Yes, but only to the ones that looks at English as a superior language. Are you Brit by any chance? You just came across like one.

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

I just said that it´s used sometimes, and it is, and therefore the best choice.

555555

"Ph" is used BUT it's still pronounced "F". Therefore, it's not the best choice. Unless you want to say Fasa Thai.

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yes, but only to the ones that looks at English as a superior language. Are you Brit by any chance? You just came across like one.

No. Everyone knows it's Roman alphabet, Arabic numerals. French, German, Spanish........all the same. You are talking bo%%x.

I'd start to get the latest Gen. of iBuds that have direct translation..or checking out the latest gen, of virtual reality goggles.

3 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yes, but only to the ones that looks at English as a superior language. Are you Brit by any chance? You just came across like one.

Just accept you are ignorant about who uses the Arabic alphabet and who uses the Roman alphabet.

You are trying to deflect your lack of knowledge and mistakes with silly Donald Trump style retorts.