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Thai Motorcyclist Killed by Foreign Driver in Phuket Pickup Truck Collision

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2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

There is mention of an argument when they got out the truck. Perhaps it started inside before the crash and caused the sudden swerve. Pure speculation.

The trick looks fairly new, I’m doubting any kind of mechanical cause

Yes.

I also saw some guy jumping up onto the bed of the truck, and getting down on the opposite side.

It does appear that at least two people are engaged in some kind of verbal confrontation.

It's possible that if there were two or more people inside of the truck, then if they were involved in a physical fight, this might account for the sudden SEVERE TURN to the right, which kept the right wheel completely turned to the right up to the point at which the truck came to a complete stop.

Very odd for a truck to just swerve like that, and one would need to put quite a bit of force on the steering wheel.

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  • Definitely weed and probably booze...when will this madness stop!!!!!

  • Something happened just before the sight of the video. What caused the truck to veer so sharp like that across 3 lanes of traffic. Nof sure this one is so simple and clear cut.

16 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Ahh I see. Good spot. I couldn’t make that bit out.

In which case, it is all on her. For whatever reason she made a manic right turn. Dropped her phone, bent down to pick it up, causing her right hand to pull to the right, looked up, panicked, slammed brakes on hard, skidded across the road?

Who knows other than her.

I think that might be why he reacted the way he did...

One minute you're sat enjoying an open air ride in the sun, the next you're swerving across the road and hitting something (at this point I honestly don't think he knew that she'd hit anybody), natural reaction is to be enraged at the driver.

9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I have to laugh at the motorcycle going the wrong way up the carriageway

Looks to me that the wrong way rider ran straight up to help the injured /dead riders

so was not on a wrong way mission in the first place ?

although I do agree it happens a lot

it become less alarming the more you drive on Thai roads the more you expect to encounter it and 'accommodate' it by being more vigilant and avoidance manoeuvres 🫣

7 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

and one would need to put quite a bit of force on the steering wheel.

Power steering ? pinky finger force.

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Power steering ? pinky finger force.

Not really...

With modern power steering, the counteracting force will build up the harder the turn.

This turn was sudden, and about as radical a turn as one can make.

Also, why was this truck turning from the leftmost lane across three lanes of traffic?

Very odd.

And that GIANT who jumped out and onto the bed of the pickup looked very frightening from the beginning.

Unfortunately, no additional information is available from googling, so far.

Will we ever get the end of the story?

Because, I don't like these cliff-hangers what are never resolved.

I cannot sleep at night.

Either these must be resolved here, or I must stop reading them.

No other option.

9 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Maybe she was putting on lipstick while driving with one hand and lost control? could be texting or playing games on her phone too.

Or a motorcycle pulled out without looking - 99% chance of that from my experience of driving in LOS for 40 years

3 hours ago, johng said:

Looks to me that the wrong way rider ran straight up to help the injured /dead riders

so was not on a wrong way mission in the first place ?

although I do agree it happens a lot

it become less alarming the more you drive on Thai roads the more you expect to encounter it and 'accommodate' it by being more vigilant and avoidance manoeuvres 🫣

Quite possible. Hard to tell exactly but maybe they were stationary up the road and rode down to help.

2 hours ago, Graham8888 said:

Or a motorcycle pulled out without looking - 99% chance of that from my experience of driving in LOS for 40 years

I don’t think there is any sign of that in the video

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4 hours ago, wensiensheng said:
8 hours ago, wwest5829 said:

Hmm, advise ... not such a quick judgement". How many times have we had a motorcycle pull out from a side venue without looking causing us to try and viand hitting them. All I am saying is... not so quick on the draw here ...

Have you seen the video? Motorcycle proceeding in the right direction on the correct side of the road and in by the curb, not near the white line in the middle.

Pick up truck proceeding on the opposite side of the road in a straight line, suddenly performs a screaming right turn crossing to the opposite side of the road and ends up facing the other way and off the opposite road lane. Taking out two motorbikes on the way.

What has “motorbikes pulling out from a side venue” got to do with this particular case?

He means... the possibility of another motorcycle or vehicle on the pickup truck side of the road.

Perhaps the truck driver had to take avoiding action to avoid a motorcycle that had pulled out on their side of the road (and occurred out of frame of the video) - just a possibility.

A dash-cam may protect them somewhat in such an example - but also might indicate they were coming in at speed - in which case a loss of control when taking avoiding action would also place the driver at fault.

Its tragic that two completely innocent riders - riding safely had their lives take / changed in such a sudden and significant manner.

12 hours ago, Taboo2 said:

Weed and Iphone use together...

I think the guy in the pick-up was muff-diving and accidentially bit her....

5 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

I have to laugh at the motorcycle going the wrong way up the carriageway that had to brake reasonably heavily to stop from slamming into the guy. No danger of actually hitting but they were going a fair old pace up the wrong carriage way. No mention of that from Thai netizens I wager

Yup, only opinionated farangs who think they know everything and drive better than anyone else would mention that, let alone laugh at it.

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2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

He means... the possibility of another motorcycle or vehicle on the pickup truck side of the road.

Perhaps the truck driver had to take avoiding action to avoid a motorcycle that had pulled out on their side of the road (and occurred out of frame of the video) - just a possibility.

A dash-cam may protect them somewhat in such an example - but also might indicate they were coming in at speed - in which case a loss of control when taking avoiding action would also place the driver at fault.

Its tragic that two completely innocent riders - riding safely had their lives take / changed in such a sudden and significant manner.

I take your point.

But, there is no sign of that on the video and if taking evasive action, would it really require cutting across three lanes of traffic and coming to a shuddering halt on the opposite side of the road while facing the wrong direction?

I think it’s a stretch

2 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

I take your point.

But, there is no sign of that on the video and if taking evasive action, would it really require cutting across three lanes of traffic and coming to a shuddering halt on the opposite side of the road while facing the wrong direction?

I think it’s a stretch

I didn't quite mean that - IF evasive action was taken, the 'cutting across' into the apposing traffic was not the evasive move, it was the loss of control after the the evasive move - the evasive 'swerve' (if it happend at all) may have occurred off-camera.

Pickups are inherently unstable and 'tail light' - swerving to avoid something might have been the cause for the loss of control.

Total loss of control. I don't think using one's phone would cause such an abrupt swerve. I'm thinking either:

  1. Fight with her boyfriend/passenger who grabbed her arm forcefully

  2. Burst tyre

9 hours ago, Iron Tongue said:

If you look carefully, the wheels were already locked-up before the truck slid into oncoming traffic and into the bikers.

No anti lock brakes? Is that option not included on pickups now?

18 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Total loss of control. I don't think using one's phone would cause such an abrupt swerve. I'm thinking either:

  1. Fight with her boyfriend/passenger who grabbed her arm forcefully

  2. Burst tyre

It might if she was distracted on her phone, then looked up and had to swerve for something, which caused the loss of control.

What we can see is that the pickup is out of control as it enters the frame - what caused the pickup to be out of control is anyone's guess.

  • Fight with BF / Grabbing the wheel or arm & lost control

  • Fight with BF / She swerved in anger & lost control

  • Burst tyre & lost control

  • Swerved to avoid something that had pulled out & lost control

  • Distracted on phone and saw something too late, swerved to avoid & lost control

2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No anti lock brakes? Is that option not included on pickups now?

Not when a truck is going sideways...

Even with ABS the tail can come round - which seems to be what happened here - there was no counter-steering though (which I would have thought would be a natural response when the front starts to point in the wrong direction).

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

It might if she was distracted on her phone, then looked up and had to swerve for something, which caused the loss of control.

What we can see is that the pickup is out of control as it enters the frame - what caused the pickup to be out of control is anyone's guess.

  • Fight with BF / Grabbing the wheel or arm & lost control

  • Fight with BF / She swerved in anger & lost control

  • Burst tyre & lost control

  • Swerved to avoid something that had pulled out & lost control

  • Distracted on phone and saw something too late, swerved to avoid & lost control

I've just read some comments on FaceBook confirming that the passenger and driver were still arguing outside the vehicle after the accident had occurred, and that CPR on the victim was performed by a passer-by. For them to continue their argument in spite of the seriousness of what they had just caused indicates that they were not in a normal state, either because of extreme emotion or intoxication. I'm leaning towards the 'violent couple fight' explanation.

45 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I didn't quite mean that - IF evasive action was taken, the 'cutting across' into the apposing traffic was not the evasive move, it was the loss of control after the the evasive move - the evasive 'swerve' (if it happend at all) may have occurred off-camera.

Pickups are inherently unstable and 'tail light' - swerving to avoid something might have been the cause for the loss of control.

Possible.

I feel she’ll have to do some hard talking to sell the idea. Whatever she was evading would have to be very bad, to be worse than killing one person and seriously injuring another. And that was getting off lightly. The motorbikes could easily have had 8 people on them between them, or it could have been a school bus with kids hanging off in all directions.

So yeah, maybe, just maybe somebody or something provoked her movement, but I personally think it’s unlikely that there is anything that required such a drastic movement.

If she lost control as a result of intending to make a smaller evasive movement, then it’s still on her really. Tbh, I’m not really buying it and I suspect the odds are the cops won’t either.

16 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I've just read some comments on FaceBook confirming that the passenger and driver were still arguing outside the vehicle after the accident had occurred, and that CPR on the victim was performed by a passer-by. For them to continue their argument in spite of the seriousness of what they had just caused indicates that they were not in a normal state, either because of extreme emotion or intoxication. I'm leaning towards the 'violent couple fight' explanation.

Yeah - that information certainly adds to the fuel that 'they' were a) acting very erratically and b) likely not sobre.

9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Possible.

I feel she’ll have to do some hard talking to sell the idea. Whatever she was evading would have to be very bad, to be worse than killing one person and seriously injuring another. And that was getting off lightly. The motorbikes could easily have had 8 people on them between them, or it could have been a school bus with kids hanging off in all directions.

I don't think anyone weighs out the 'what if' scenario when taking evasive action.

Its not as if someone has time or is capable of thinking "this person just pulled out, should avoid them and risk losing control and injuring and killing other people, or should I just hit them"

9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

So yeah, maybe, just maybe somebody or something provoked her movement, but I personally think it’s unlikely that there is anything that required such a drastic movement.

Pickups are unstable vehicles - far less stable than cars - I doesn't take a huge drastic movement to lose control like that.

9 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

If she lost control as a result of intending to make a smaller evasive movement, then it’s still on her really. Tbh, I’m not really buying it and I suspect the odds are the cops won’t either.


I'd agree - its still on her, but it would lend an element of 'accident' rather than recklessness...

That said: Given what Rattle mentioned above, its looking possible that swerving like this was an 'aggravated' action (either by her or him) - possibly under the influence.

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18 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Have you seen the video? Motorcycle proceeding in the right direction on the correct side of the road and in by the curb, not near the white line in the middle.

Pick up truck proceeding on the opposite side of the road in a straight line, suddenly performs a screaming right turn crossing to the opposite side of the road and ends up facing the other way and off the opposite road lane. Taking out two motorbikes on the way.

What has “motorbikes pulling out from a side venue” got to do with this particular case?

Ah, thanks for asking for clarification. Absolutely, we see the pick-up causing the tragic accident here. What I was referring to was a possibility before what we can see in the video. The pickup truck may have lost control swerving to its right to avoid another vehicle (motorbike?) pulling into its lane from a side street. Bottom line ... advise waiting until all information is available ... what caused the pickup to go into the oncoming traffic lanes? We currently do not know.

13 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

He means... the possibility of another motorcycle or vehicle on the pickup truck side of the road.

Perhaps the truck driver had to take avoiding action to avoid a motorcycle that had pulled out on their side of the road (and occurred out of frame of the video) - just a possibility.

A dash-cam may protect them somewhat in such an example - but also might indicate they were coming in at speed - in which case a loss of control when taking avoiding action would also place the driver at fault.

Its tragic that two completely innocent riders - riding safely had their lives take / changed in such a sudden and significant manner.

Exactly, thank you.

On 3/27/2026 at 5:58 AM, Georgealbert said:

There did not seem to be any visible reason for the truck to swerve into the other lane.

On 3/26/2026 at 5:17 PM, snoop1130 said:

There is apprehension that foreign suspects might attempt to avoid legal consequences by paying off proceedings, or leaving the country before resolution.

It's not just foreigners that do that is it.

On 3/27/2026 at 12:38 PM, baansgr said:

Definitely weed and probably booze...when will this madness stop!!!!!

Gee Mr baansgr who thinks he's Sherlock Holmes! I think it's about time you retire from these type of crime investigations as you too often pull so many assumptions from a case in which you have no evidence to reach your conclusion which in this case is your quick assumption it's, "Definitely weed and probably booze".

On 3/27/2026 at 12:47 PM, blaze master said:

Its also important to know what caused the truck to veer in such a manner. Something could have happened before the start of the video. Im not excusing anything just need all the facts before jumping to conclusion like this poster has....

Definitely weed.

I think it's more likely she was either A) doing a hand job or B) saw a dress for sale at a cheap price on the other side of the road and didn't want to miss out on the sale.

PS if you think my reasons maybe far fetched based on lack of evidence then so is the fact is it's assumed that she was high on weed till the cops do the checks?

11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

I don't think anyone weighs out the 'what if' scenario when taking evasive action.

Its not as if someone has time or is capable of thinking "this person just pulled out, should avoid them and risk losing control and injuring and killing other people, or should I just hit them"

Pickups are unstable vehicles - far less stable than cars - I doesn't take a huge drastic movement to lose control like that.


I'd agree - its still on her, but it would lend an element of 'accident' rather than recklessness...

That said: Given what Rattle mentioned above, its looking possible that swerving like this was an 'aggravated' action (either by her or him) - possibly under the influence.

Sure, I understand what you are saying. The initial swerve may have been an instinctive reaction without any time to consider consequences.

It’s certainly an argument she might make. But it would have to be a very drastic situation that would cause such a drastic reaction and no other vehicles traveling in the same lane as her seemed to make any evasive maneuver at all. Only her.

I think we are saying the same thing. There may or may not have been legitimate cause to take evasive action, if yes, then she totally lost control as a result. Probably it’s an argument she will lose. Sadly, it cost someone their life.

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