Best Supported Teams Since 1946

[Sunderland]

I know a lot of people like to crow about their team being the best supported and backing this up with various stats of positions, city size, etc. Anyway for all you 'stattos' out there, the raw stats based on average attendances since 1946 are shown below. The number of seasons spent outside the top division (Division 1/Premier League) is shown in brackets.

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

31745 Manchester City (14)

30966 Chelsea (13)

30265 Aston Villa (10)

29261 Sunderland (30)

27638 Leeds United (24)

25424 Wolves (26)

24609 Sheffield Wednesday (28)

24450 West Ham United (20)

22475 Birmingham City (33)

22357 Nottingham Forest (26)

21812 Middlesbrough (24)

21721 West Brom (32)

21585 Leicester City (28)

20552 Derby County (33)

20358 Sheffield United (38)

19066 Southampton (26)

18960 Coventry City (27)

18536 Norwich City (34)

18420 Stoke City (40)

17949 Bolton Wanderers (33)

17852 Ipswich Town (35)

17236 Blackburn Rovers (38)

17079 Portsmouth (43)

16061 Burnley (34)

[mrtoad]

I know a lot of people like to crow about their team being the best supported and backing this up with various stats of positions, city size, etc. Anyway for all you 'stattos' out there, the raw stats based on average attendances since 1946 are shown below. The number of seasons spent outside the top division (Division 1/Premier League) is shown in brackets.

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

31745 Manchester City (14)

30966 Chelsea (13)

30265 Aston Villa (10)

29261 Sunderland (30)

27638 Leeds United (24)

25424 Wolves (26)

24609 Sheffield Wednesday (28)

24450 West Ham United (20)

22475 Birmingham City (33)

22357 Nottingham Forest (26)

21812 Middlesbrough (24)

21721 West Brom (32)

21585 Leicester City (28)

20552 Derby County (33)

20358 Sheffield United (38)

19066 Southampton (26)

18960 Coventry City (27)

18536 Norwich City (34)

18420 Stoke City (40)

17949 Bolton Wanderers (33)

17852 Ipswich Town (35)

17236 Blackburn Rovers (38)

17079 Portsmouth (43)

16061 Burnley (34)

Where's Torquay United then?

[kopite]

I know a lot of people like to crow about their team being the best supported and backing this up with various stats of positions, city size, etc.

cant see how that works, Liverpool and United both have a huge out of town support since the late 70's.

and since the 90's lads from norway etc coming over weekly who hold season tickets.

and evertons fan base is mostly from wales.

[MiG16]

36562 Arsenal (0)

[keddy]

36562 Arsenal (0)

West Ham United would be much higher on this table if the 'unofficial' numbers were accounted for. Back in the day many of the turnstyle operators were into the 'squeeze-up' when two punters would get in the space of one turn and the operators would get an extra pound or so everytime. As for Le Arse if they started to slip down the table their support would evaporate like a Cafe Latte left out on a hot summer afternoon.

[kopite]

36562 Arsenal (0)

West Ham United would be much higher on this table if the 'unofficial' numbers were accounted for. Back in the day many of the turnstyle operators were into the 'squeeze-up' when two punters would get in the space of one turn and the operators would get an extra pound or so everytime.

yeah but the same could be said for any team. even now. loads of lads jibbing in still

[howtoescape]

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

We are the loyalist football suppoters the world has ever seen.

[kopite]

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

We are the loyalist football suppoters the world has ever seen.

yeah of course you are

never see the fans at st. james's booing and generally trying to get the manager out.

be keegan next

[ThaiPauly]

I know a lot of people like to crow about their team being the best supported and backing this up with various stats of positions, city size, etc. Anyway for all you 'stattos' out there, the raw stats based on average attendances since 1946 are shown below. The number of seasons spent outside the top division (Division 1/Premier League) is shown in brackets.

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

31745 Manchester City (14)

30966 Chelsea (13)

30265 Aston Villa (10)

29261 Sunderland (30)

27638 Leeds United (24)

25424 Wolves (26)

24609 Sheffield Wednesday (28)

24450 West Ham United (20)

22475 Birmingham City (33)

22357 Nottingham Forest (26)

21812 Middlesbrough (24)

21721 West Brom (32)

21585 Leicester City (28)

20552 Derby County (33)

20358 Sheffield United (38)

19066 Southampton (26)

18960 Coventry City (27)

18536 Norwich City (34)

18420 Stoke City (40)

17949 Bolton Wanderers (33)

17852 Ipswich Town (35)

17236 Blackburn Rovers (38)

17079 Portsmouth (43)

16061 Burnley (34)

Where's Torquay United then?

depends on when Subbuteo withdrew their contract to supply the lights for evening games

Fukc I'm depressed tonight

[mrtoad]

I know a lot of people like to crow about their team being the best supported and backing this up with various stats of positions, city size, etc. Anyway for all you 'stattos' out there, the raw stats based on average attendances since 1946 are shown below. The number of seasons spent outside the top division (Division 1/Premier League) is shown in brackets.

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

31745 Manchester City (14)

30966 Chelsea (13)

30265 Aston Villa (10)

29261 Sunderland (30)

27638 Leeds United (24)

25424 Wolves (26)

24609 Sheffield Wednesday (28)

24450 West Ham United (20)

22475 Birmingham City (33)

22357 Nottingham Forest (26)

21812 Middlesbrough (24)

21721 West Brom (32)

21585 Leicester City (28)

20552 Derby County (33)

20358 Sheffield United (38)

19066 Southampton (26)

18960 Coventry City (27)

18536 Norwich City (34)

18420 Stoke City (40)

17949 Bolton Wanderers (33)

17852 Ipswich Town (35)

17236 Blackburn Rovers (38)

17079 Portsmouth (43)

16061 Burnley (34)

Where's Torquay United then?

depends on when Subbuteo withdrew their contract to supply the lights for evening games

Fukc I'm depressed tonight

Cheer up TP, Reading are still a better team than Derby, Fulham or Newcircus United.

[howtoescape]

yeah of course you are

never see the fans at st. james's booing and generally trying to get the manager out.

be keegan next

OK here are the facts of what happenned not some <deleted> that lazy Fleet Street journalists write that know nothing of the area the club or the fans.

Ozzie Ardilyce - Was sacked by a new board, as he was about to get the team relegated to the old division 3, which would have been a first for the club.

Keegan - Left on his own accord no one wanted him out.

Dalglish - Sacked 2 games in after getting to a cup final, this was a board decision and nothing to do with the fans.

Gullit - Walked no one chanted for him to leave, he had lost the dressing room allegedly.

Robson - Was sacked for no reason, though he was 72 and probably it was the best thing to happen but at the wrong time, the fans never wanted him out.

Souness - Didnt have a clue wasted millions and was hated by the fans and they wanted him out, (as Liverpool fans did)

Roeder - Should never have got the job, and never had a clue and was sacked by a useless chairman, the fans never chanted for him to leave, they wanted rid of the board at this time and got their wish.

Allardyce - Everyone who knew a thing about football thought he should have been given more time, he had 2 of the worst managers in the clubs history before him. The reason he left was a new board came in and wanted their own people, his face just didnt fit. The week before he was sacked the fans were singing(cheering) his name at Stoke, despite being played off the park by a lower league team.

If Liverpool had been as starved of success as we have over the last 50 years they would have less fans then Tranmere.

[kopite]

yeah of course you are

never see the fans at st. james's booing and generally trying to get the manager out.

be keegan next

OK here are the facts of what happenned not some <deleted> that lazy Fleet Street journalists write that know nothing of the area the club or the fans.

i know how you feel mate. the london media does me head in as well. but if the rest of your post is true then i apoligise. however, i have heard on many, many occasions booing at st james's park. now im not saying it doesnt happen at anfield, but if it does its by day tripping, glory hunting (mancs be nice) out of towners. and its happened a handfull of times post instanbul.

at newcastle it tends to be a part of the match day ritual

If Liverpool had been as starved of success as we have over the last 50 years they would have less fans then Tranmere.

well everton are 4th in that list so ithats not true

[howtoescape]

Newcastle have always had a good away following and are one of the few teams that have always in my lifetime sold out away ends no matter where they play.

The people at away fans are always different to the ones who only tend to go to home games and from them there is less booing the manager/ players etc...

The Newcastle crowd is now made up of middle aged boring bast... and women, so if they boo at least it creates some noise in what is a sterile atmosphere

PS I rarely go to football games anymore, lost interest due to the price and how sterile the atmosphere is, relatives of mine who have gone for 30-50 years also dont go for similar reasons, if the clubs lose this kind of fan i dont think it bodes well for the future, as these are the ones who take their kids and grandkids who are the future supporter.

[kopite]

Newcastle have always had a good away following and are one of the few teams that have always in my lifetime sold out away ends no matter where they play.

The people at away fans are always different to the ones who only tend to go to home games and from them there is less booing the manager/ players etc...

The Newcastle crowd is now made up of middle aged boring bast... and women, so if they boo at least it creates some noise in what is a sterile atmosphere

PS I rarely go to football games anymore, lost interest due to the price and how sterile the atmosphere is, relatives of mine who have gone for 30-50 years also dont go for similar reasons, if the clubs lose this kind of fan i dont think it bodes well for the future, as these are the ones who take their kids and grandkids who are the future supporter.

that post pretty much sums up most grounds nowadays. if only we could all return to football pre 1992. when working class hotspots such as newcastle, liverppol, manchester and even london are over run by prawn sandwich eating nobodys its time to shake it all up again.

window sales, boys pens and cheaper tickets need to come back. quickly

[howtoescape]

window sales, boys pens and cheaper tickets need to come back. quickly

And dolly birds throwing promotional packs of Walkers crisps into the crowd before the game, to chants of "Get you t*ts out for the lads." Youd get locked up for sexual harrassment for singing that nowadays.

[Sunderland]

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

We are the loyalist football suppoters the world has ever seen.

Mmmmmm ... with Gazza as your idol, it would be fair to say that you lot are the looniest supporters the world has ever seen.

[Sunderland]

I know a lot of people like to crow about their team being the best supported and backing this up with various stats of positions, city size, etc. Anyway for all you 'stattos' out there, the raw stats based on average attendances since 1946 are shown below. The number of seasons spent outside the top division (Division 1/Premier League) is shown in brackets.

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

31745 Manchester City (14)

30966 Chelsea (13)

30265 Aston Villa (10)

29261 Sunderland (30)

27638 Leeds United (24)

25424 Wolves (26)

24609 Sheffield Wednesday (28)

24450 West Ham United (20)

22475 Birmingham City (33)

22357 Nottingham Forest (26)

21812 Middlesbrough (24)

21721 West Brom (32)

21585 Leicester City (28)

20552 Derby County (33)

20358 Sheffield United (38)

19066 Southampton (26)

18960 Coventry City (27)

18536 Norwich City (34)

18420 Stoke City (40)

17949 Bolton Wanderers (33)

17852 Ipswich Town (35)

17236 Blackburn Rovers (38)

17079 Portsmouth (43)

16061 Burnley (34)

Where's Torquay United then?

depends on when Subbuteo withdrew their contract to supply the lights for evening games

Fukc I'm depressed tonight

Cheer up TP, Reading are still a better team than Derby, Fulham or Newcircus United.

Sorry ... computer says no. Reading are doomed despite looking marginally better than Newcircus.

Joking aside, Reading are not the 3rd worst team in the Premier League, but they are in the middle of a precarious run of results.

[Sunderland]

Newcastle have always been crap and are one of the few teams that have always in my lifetime sold out of bovril and meat pies no matter where they play.

The people at away matches always look different to the ones who only tend to go to home games and from them there is less boiling of the manager and players in vats of hot water ... mainly because they support the opposition.

The Newcastle crowd is now made up of chavs, yuppies, old aged boring gits and people who think wearing barcoded shirts is cool ... and ugly women, so if they scream at least it creates some noise in what is an unpleasant atmosphere.

PS I rarely go to football games anymore. I lost interest due to lack of football and the price of pies and bovril, plus the sterile women. Relatives of mine who have gone for 130-150 years also dont go for similar reasons and the inability to walk. If the clubs lose this kind of fan I don't think it bodes well for the future, as these are the ones who take their bed pans and walking sticks and are role models for future supporters.

I often disagree, but I am inclined to agree with your comments on this occasion.

[Sunderland]

yeah of course you are

never see the fans at st. james's booing and generally trying to get the manager out.

be keegan next

OK here are the facts of what happenned not some <deleted> that lazy Fleet Street journalists write that know nothing of the area the club or the fans.

Ozzie Ardilyce - Was sacked by a new board, as he was about to get the team relegated to the old division 3, which would have been appropriate for the club.

Keegan - Threw his dummy out the pram and ran away when he couldn't hack the pressure. Ha! Ha! Ha!

Dalglish - Pretended to be sacked 2 games in after getting to a cup final. This was a good decision and everything to do with the fans.

Gullit - Failed to pick Shearer for a home derby with Sunderland. Subsequently lost 2-1 (FTM) and left in disgrace with his head between his legs.

Robson - Was sacked for forgetting his name, where he came from and pissing his pants when he fell asleep in a corner of the dressing room.

Souness - Brilliant manager. Didn't have a clue, wasted millions and was loved by Sunderland fans. They never wanted him out.

Roeder - Should have been given the job for life, and was a genius. He was sacked by a brilliant chairman. The fans never chanted before and couldn't be arsed when he left. They wanted rid of the sideboard at this time and got their wish when someone bought it on ebay.

Allardyce - Everyone who knew a thing about football thought he should have been given more money to waste. He had 2 of the best managers in the club's history before him. The reason he left was a new sideboard was brought in and the half-time dancers wanted their own people. His face just didnt fit in a 6x4" photo. The week before he was beaten up the fans were burning his underpants at Stoke, despite being played off the park by a lower league team.

If Hartlepool had been as starved of success as we have over the last 50 years they would have more fans then Barcelona and Real Madrid put together.

Mmmmmmmmmm ... I am inclined to agree with some of those points you raised.

[MSingh]

Newcastle have always had a good away following and are one of the few teams that have always in my lifetime sold out away ends no matter where they play.

The people at away fans are always different to the ones who only tend to go to home games and from them there is less booing the manager/ players etc...

The Newcastle crowd is now made up of middle aged boring bast... and women, so if they boo at least it creates some noise in what is a sterile atmosphere

PS I rarely go to football games anymore, lost interest due to the price and how sterile the atmosphere is, relatives of mine who have gone for 30-50 years also dont go for similar reasons, if the clubs lose this kind of fan i dont think it bodes well for the future, as these are the ones who take their kids and grandkids who are the future supporter.

Newcastle even have a great following for London Away Games Midweek whihc used to impress me, before i realised that most B uilding Sites in London had at least half a dozen if not more Geordies on them...

[bomber]

48314 Manchester United (1)

40765 Liverpool (8)

36562 Arsenal (0)

36087 Everton (3)

35863 Tottenham Hotspur (5)

35176 Newcastle United (16)

We are the loyalist football suppoters the world has ever seen.

the ststs above say your not.

[bomber]

36562 Arsenal (0)

West Ham United would be much higher on this table if the 'unofficial' numbers were accounted for. Back in the day many of the turnstyle operators were into the 'squeeze-up' when two punters would get in the space of one turn and the operators would get an extra pound or so everytime. As for Le Arse if they started to slip down the table their support would evaporate like a Cafe Latte left out on a hot summer afternoon.

but that went on at just about every ground,stop making excuses.

[keddy]

36562 Arsenal (0)

West Ham United would be much higher on this table if the 'unofficial' numbers were accounted for. Back in the day many of the turnstyle operators were into the 'squeeze-up' when two punters would get in the space of one turn and the operators would get an extra pound or so everytime. As for Le Arse if they started to slip down the table their support would evaporate like a Cafe Latte left out on a hot summer afternoon.

but that went on at just about every ground,stop making excuses.

I think you need a sense of humour implant, I've heard they're pretty inexpensive in the kingdom.

[Bredbury Blue]

I would have to say that the table looks pretty much as i would imagine it to but means nothing without naming your source / link, which is???

[Bredbury Blue]

I would have to say that the table looks pretty much as i would imagine it to but means nothing without naming your source / link, which is???

While we await your source / link, have a look at this one of the Scum's av attendances since inception. I'm told by the old man and Grandad when he was with us that City's crowds were bigger then ManUre's pre 2nd WWII, any historians on here know why their crowds increased significantly after the war?

Manchester United Average Home Attendances

http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/attendances.htm

[mrbojangles]

any historians on here know why their crowds increased significantly after the war?

Influx of foreigner's Bred

[jjp]

I would have to say that the table looks pretty much as i would imagine it to but means nothing without naming your source / link, which is???

While we await your source / link, have a look at this one of the Scum's av attendances since inception. I'm told by the old man and Grandad when he was with us that City's crowds were bigger then ManUre's pre 2nd WWII, any historians on here know why their crowds increased significantly after the war?

Manchester United Average Home Attendances

http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/attendances.htm

yeah yeah Bred. Man City fans the most loyal fans in the world according to you lot.

Why are you on a Utd Fanzine anyhow?

[Bredbury Blue]

I would have to say that the table looks pretty much as i would imagine it to but means nothing without naming your source / link, which is???

While we await your source / link, have a look at this one of the Scum's av attendances since inception. I'm told by the old man and Grandad when he was with us that City's crowds were bigger then ManUre's pre 2nd WWII, any historians on here know why their crowds increased significantly after the war?

Manchester United Average Home Attendances

http://www.red11.org/mufc/stats/attendances.htm

yeah yeah Bred. Man City fans the most loyal fans in the world according to you lot.

Why are you on a Utd Fanzine anyhow?

Why was i on a Rag site. Because in trying to find the source of the posters info (you know me, i like stuff like this), obviuosly googling the best supported club led me to the Rag site of the best supported club.

Did you look at that link on your Rag site? Interesting wasn't it how a little club from Salford rose from the ashes of WWII to be everybodies favourite club