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Fare Thee Well Ole Blighty

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Got back to blighty on friday afternoon. By 7am saturday, the mrs was on the hospital bed and pushing hard. At 9.45am Tia was born, weighing in at 6lb 12oz. Couldn't have timed my return any better. Going back to Saudi in 2 weeks, this time, leaving the mrs and Tia will be the hardest thing i have ever done :o

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And yes, she's already a Man City fan and been to the ground already. :D

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Just sent some congrats in the other sub-forum.

But she looks so sweet, I'll do it again....... nice one Boj's

Full on! Congrats MrBoJ :o

Obviously not in your case, but I thought airlines were really cautious about letting heavily pregnant women on, in case they go into labour mid-flight?

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Lucky man

I certainly feel it suiging :D

Just sent some congrats in the other sub-forum.

But she looks so sweet, I'll do it again....... nice one Boj's

Cheers again Thaddy :o

Full on! Congrats MrBoJ :D

Obviously not in your case, but I thought airlines were really cautious about letting heavily pregnant women on, in case they go into labour mid-flight?

Cheers Insight. Your'e right about the airlines. I was in Saudi alone and the Mrs was still in the UK.

Congratulations man.

She looks sooo cute.

Hope all is good for baby and mother. :o

Cheers Insight. Your'e right about the airlines. I was in Saudi alone and the Mrs was still in the UK.

Ahhhhhh.... Not one for details today :o

:D :D :(:D :D :o

:D

we made this :burp:

Good timing indeed! Massive congratulations, my friend, to you, the missus, and a hearty welcome to Tia.

Forgive me but I have to ask, is her middle name Maria? :P

Wow, congratulations to you both & welcome to existance little Tia

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Congratulations man.

She looks sooo cute.

Hope all is good for baby and mother. :D

Cheers Soundman. Yeah all is well. Putting food in one end and clearing waste out the other end :D

Good timing indeed! Massive congratulations, my friend, to you, the missus, and a hearty welcome to Tia.

Cheers buddy

Forgive me but I have to ask, is her middle name Maria? :o

Your not the first to ask Kayo :( But no it isn't. :D

Wow, congratulations to you both & welcome to existance little Tia

Cheers Boo :D

Congrats Mr Bo, pass on my best wishes to the other half and a hearty Good Luck to Tia

Good Luck

Moss

Add my congratulations to the growing list to all three of you.

CB

Well, your timing was really down to a T - ia, congratulations and all the best!!!

Congrats to Mrs and Mr Boj on a healthy lovely baby. (Mrs goes first in the congrats as she did all the hard work :o )

So sorry I have been so slow in responding. Love to all your family, and congratulations to both mum and dad.

Congrats to Mrs and Mr Boj on a healthy lovely baby. (Mrs goes first in the congrats as she did all the hard work :D )

you watched them SBK? :o

Got back to blighty on friday afternoon. By 7am saturday, the mrs was on the hospital bed and pushing hard. At 9.45am Tia was born, weighing in at 6lb 12oz. Couldn't have timed my return any better. Going back to Saudi in 2 weeks, this time, leaving the mrs and Tia will be the hardest thing i have ever done :o

congratulations. no way that the Mrs and Miss can join you?

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Add my congratulations to the growing list to all three of you.

CB

Thanks very much CB :D

Well, your timing was really down to a T - ia, congratulations and all the best!!!

:D Cheers Patsy

Congrats to Mrs and Mr Boj on a healthy lovely baby. (Mrs goes first in the congrats as she did all the hard work :D )

Thanks sbk. I had to cut the cord you know. And no one offered to mop my brow :o

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So sorry I have been so slow in responding. Love to all your family, and congratulations to both mum and dad.

Thanks very much tiggs :D

Got back to blighty on friday afternoon. By 7am saturday, the mrs was on the hospital bed and pushing hard. At 9.45am Tia was born, weighing in at 6lb 12oz. Couldn't have timed my return any better. Going back to Saudi in 2 weeks, this time, leaving the mrs and Tia will be the hardest thing i have ever done :o

congratulations. no way that the Mrs and Miss can join you?

Cheers naam. Yeah they'll be joining me in Dec / Jan hopefully

Congrats to Mrs and Mr Boj on a healthy lovely baby. (Mrs goes first in the congrats as she did all the hard work :D )

you watched them SBK? :D

Umm, Naam, you do know its not the stork that delivers the baby, right? :o

Firstly - let me add my congratulations

Got back to blighty on friday afternoon. By 7am saturday, the mrs was on the hospital bed and pushing hard. At 9.45am Tia was born, weighing in at 6lb 12oz. Couldn't have timed my return any better. Going back to Saudi in 2 weeks, this time, leaving the mrs and Tia will be the hardest thing i have ever done :o

congratulations. no way that the Mrs and Miss can join you?

Secondly - although I may have wife and kids out for a vacation (and the paperwork ain't easy for that) there is no way I would expect them to join me on a long contract. There is very little consideration given by the Saudis to their own womenfolk - expat women who are not out there on a work-contract (nurse / teacher) are way down the totem pole.

Not being allowed to drive, having to wear the abbaya, being regarded as less than a dog-turd does not make life easy.

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Firstly - let me add my congratulations

Thanks Humph :o

Secondly - although I may have wife and kids out for a vacation (and the paperwork ain't easy for that) there is no way I would expect them to join me on a long contract. There is very little consideration given by the Saudis to their own womenfolk - expat women who are not out there on a work-contract (nurse / teacher) are way down the totem pole.

Not being allowed to drive, having to wear the abbaya, being regarded as less than a dog-turd does not make life easy.

I don't know the type of accommodation you had Humph but on our compound, it's second to non. Did you live on a compound? You really don't have to leave the place as it has everything you need (and many don't leave), we even have people coming from outside to visit the place, have a beer and go to the nightclub. We have a Supermarket, 2 restaurants, shops, swimming pools galore, 10 pin bowling, gym's, tennis, 3 pubs etc. etc.

There are shed loads of wives who live on our place and i've asked many of them for their opinion. There are even 6 Thai wives. They go out shopping regularly, either on the bus that the company puts on, or with their husbands and that's the only time they have to wear the Abbaya. They love the lifestyle and to be honest, so do i. When i lived in Kuwait, i wouldn't have taken the mrs to live there but then i didn't live on this type of compound.

Secondly - although I may have wife and kids out for a vacation (and the paperwork ain't easy for that) there is no way I would expect them to join me on a long contract. There is very little consideration given by the Saudis to their own womenfolk - expat women who are not out there on a work-contract (nurse / teacher) are way down the totem pole.

Not being allowed to drive, having to wear the abbaya, being regarded as less than a dog-turd does not make life easy.

I don't know the type of accommodation you had Humph but on our compound, it's second to non. Did you live on a compound? You really don't have to leave the place as it has everything you need (and many don't leave), we even have people coming from outside to visit the place, have a beer and go to the nightclub. We have a Supermarket, 2 restaurants, shops, swimming pools galore, 10 pin bowling, gym's, tennis, 3 pubs etc. etc.

There are shed loads of wives who live on our place and i've asked many of them for their opinion. There are even 6 Thai wives. They go out shopping regularly, either on the bus that the company puts on, or with their husbands and that's the only time they have to wear the Abbaya. They love the lifestyle and to be honest, so do i. When i lived in Kuwait, i wouldn't have taken the mrs to live there but then i didn't live on this type of compound.

I've done five or six tours in Saudi - living in compounds, living in separate housing - even spent six months in an ATCO container. But it depends very much on the compound. Only once have I had shops on the compound - usually there is a bus to take the wives on a set route and you then get a clique of wives ganging up and telling the driver <We want to go here / there>. and the hel_l with what the other wives want.

I have at different times had different wives sray with me in Saudi - firstly in Tabuk, secondly in Jeddah. Otherwise it usually winds up with wife-substitutes from the Filipina nursing staff of a local hospital. My last tour (finished in March this year) was in Rabigh - between Jeddah and Yanbu. On an Aramco compound where everyone was checked through two security gates. One commisary on the compound, with week-old veggies and frozen/defrosted/refrozen/defrosted/refrozen food. Fortunately there is a small town there and some passable food. But nowt else. We used to organise twice-monthly drives into Jeddah for decent shopping - two hours drive each way. When building the SSSP HQ in Riyadh I stayed in a hotel. When working on Pump Station 4 on the NE corner of Riyadh Airport I lived in an ATCO. But I had my own car. Obviously there was no drinking on any of the three mentioned sites, due to security checks. But that is not of concern to me - when I go to work in Saudi I am mentally prepared to accept their rules. If I didn't like it - I wouldn't go.

But I really do not want to recommend that anyone takes their wife there - and if you do, and she doesn't like it - then be prepared to let her go back home whenever she wants, and leave yourself if you this is required. I have seen many too many marriages break down there. If you can afford it, get a maid for the baby - Ethiopian or Somali / Eritrean. They are usually very good with small babies. It will give your wife some freedom to relax and visit some of the other women who don't like kids.

I wish you all the luck in the world - I hope you can all complete the tour and look back on it with fond memories.

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Thanks for the reply Humph and the good wishes. :o

I'm not too sure about the bus and wives taking over. I'm told by a few friends with wives, there is a set location that it goes to on different days of the week but i have my own company car, so it really doesn't matter. The good thing about Riyadh is, as you know, Carrefours, Tamimi's and shopping malls are abundent. So Thai and Western food is readily available.

We have two security gates getting into the compound but we are never searched. So drinking is fine, I think it is an agreement between the two Governments and a blind eye is turned.

In all honesty, it's a fab place to live and the school (within the compound) has just been rated by Ofsted. The result of their assessment is that, if the school was in the UK it would have been fifth in the league table for the whole of the UK. So little Tia will have good schooling.

Having said all that. If the Mrs isn't happy, she can of course go back to Thailand and i will pop over every 2 months for 10 days to 2 weeks.

Thanks for the reply Humph and the good wishes. :o

I'm not too sure about the bus and wives taking over. I'm told by a few friends with wives, there is a set location that it goes to on different days of the week but i have my own company car, so it really doesn't matter. The good thing about Riyadh is, as you know, Carrefours, Tamimi's and shopping malls are abundent. So Thai and Western food is readily available.

We have two security gates getting into the compound but we are never searched. So drinking is fine, I think it is an agreement between the two Governments and a blind eye is turned.

In all honesty, it's a fab place to live and the school (within the compound) has just been rated by Ofsted. The result of their assessment is that, if the school was in the UK it would have been fifth in the league table for the whole of the UK. So little Tia will have good schooling.

Having said all that. If the Mrs isn't happy, she can of course go back to Thailand and i will pop over every 2 months for 10 days to 2 weeks.

OK - good luck.

Most of my residences have been on company compounds, rather than the commercial developments such as Arabian Homes. Which is why my experience could be very diferent to yours.

I used to have a policy in Jeddah that gitl-friends were acceptasble, but wives were discouraged, solely because the wives of the senior managers tended to think they could boss the 'junior' wives around. As I was numero uno, with an ever- chenging flipper in tow, I got my own way on most social issues.

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