Arrest Warrants Issued For 14 Red Shirt Leaders And Thaksin

[Koo82]

Did he routinely ride buses? Nope.

He is not a bus driver.

Hope you did not mean I routinely ride bus. I'm not a bus driver, too.

I said "I took buses" and did not say when and how often. Having income doesn't mean I must leave home in the morning and come back home in the late afternoon.

[Koo82]

I took buses

Not many of your fellow countrymen making 100,000 baht a month like yourself ride buses. Why do you suppose that is?

Rule of thumb: only poor people are allowed to take buses and only poor people are allowed to attend the red meetings.

And Jakropop and Jutaporn are POOR PEOPLE....

That thumb must grow rather long like Pinocchio's nose...

Right these guys alone must each skim more than 250k a month before they get salaries

and have been doing it for years; ignoring mysteriously missing election funds,

and Dr. T's stipends to keep stirring the pot heartily.

Only the poor? What tripe...

When I posted that rule of thumb, I posted sarcastically.

I wanted to say that not only the poor will take bus and attend the red meetings. If you come to the meeting place, you will see nice cars and hi-sos.

[Koo82]

Its red violence why people think twice to come again to Thailand or not!

You remind me of Thanh's post which read that when PAD blocked airports, tourists could find alternative airports. If that was simple, when the reds blocked Din Daeng, tourists could choose another streets, much easier than choosing another airports.

In another thread, I asked tourists and they said:

"Most tourists could care less about the internal politics in Bangkok. They want fun, they want sun, and they want it to fit their budget."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Passenger-Tr...57#entry2729857

If I can convince you violence did not start from the reds, what do you say?

[Koo82]

And only one side attacked with the intent to kill the current PM...

Was Abhisit in that car?

[Koo82]

I took buses

Not many of your fellow countrymen making 100,000 baht a month like yourself ride buses. Why do you suppose that is?

Did you see Khun Thaksin eat with local people and sleep in their houses? He doesn't make 100,000 Baht a month.

No, I didn't see him do that, what is your point...?

My point is not only the poor will eat with rural people and sleep in their rural poor houses. Khun Thaksin doesn't make only 100,000 Baht a month. He makes so much money that those who cannot make due to their limit of ability think that the money must come from corruption.

[TAWP]

And only one side attacked with the intent to kill the current PM...

Was Abhisit in that car?

Probably - but that is besides the point as the INTENT was to kill him or cause grave bodily harm.

So you are still thugs.

[Koo82]

The authorities 6 months ago had no idea how to handle the yellows and their moving of their protest to the airport. It is a major design fault at Survanabhumi that there isn't a bridge or barricades that can be used to prevent major protest from entering from the expressways. In most countries, they would have been prevented from entering and maybe could have been shot. The reds conducted their protest under a completely different government with a completely different agenda. They got extremely violent, but I don't doubt the capabilities of the yellows to do the same.

Army in Thailand does not like the party coming from people such as TRT/PPP/PT so they did not stop PAD from blocking GH and airports. When Khun Somchai asked army to clear PAD, Anupong set up a conference with Pro-PAD people, came out later and said "Political problems must be solved politically. I asked Khun Somchai to resign and PAD to go home."

Army backs Demos so soldiers were on the street when the reds blocked an intersection. The reds already left Victory Monument when Abhisit announced 12th April was an off day. All the bus burning and gas trucks... happened after soldiers brought tanks in and after soldiers started to shoot on 13th April 4:00am.

If soldiers did not bring tanks and guns in, I doubt there was any violence.

Edited May 22, 2009 by Koo82

[Koo82]

And only one side attacked with the intent to kill the current PM...

Was Abhisit in that car?

Probably - but that is besides the point as the INTENT was to kill him or cause grave bodily harm.

So you are still thugs.

Do you know which car number was Abhisit's car?

Which cars were hit?

[TAWP]

And only one side attacked with the intent to kill the current PM...

Was Abhisit in that car?

Probably - but that is besides the point as the INTENT was to kill him or cause grave bodily harm.

So you are still thugs.

Do you know which car number was Abhisit's car?

Which cars were hit?

Still thugs.

[HagenvonTronje]

And only one side attacked with the intent to kill the current PM...

did they kill the democrats secretary Niphon after the driver crashed the car through the fence and rammed a taxi that was parked outside?

the situation is to see in that video here (the title misleading choosen by the uploader)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_TfqgR5HH4

Nick Nostitz describes the incident with the following words: "On April 12, I got the news that Arisamun had been arrested. Red Shirts demanded his release, and protested in front of the court building in Ratchada. The same afternoon, Abhsit declared at the Ministry of Interior, Emergency Rule over Bangkok and several surrounding provinces. A very confusing situation developed. It was reported that enraged Red Shirts attacked Abhsit’s car, and that his driver fired warning shots into the air, after which he was beaten up by Red Shirts. Red Shirts complained of several injured when Abhsit’s car crashed into them, and some claimed that some of the hurt protesters were dragged by security forces into the building.

When I arrived, Red Shirts remained at the gates and in the grounds, there were soldiers as well, some of them armed with M-16s. It was a tense situation. Things clearly began to turn bad. Red Shirts searched the buildings for their injured (none were found). Suddenly a car seemed to try to escape, followed by angry red Shirts. I went after, and found that the car crashed through a fence and into a taxi, and was stuck halfway in the compound and the foot path. In the car were two men stuck, the driver and Democrat Secretary-General Nipon Prombhand. Red Shirt guards surrounded the car, trying to hold the angry crowd back. After taking some images, I pushed a few too aggressive Red Shirts away, and shouted at them that they should not behave like animals. The guards applauded me, and so did several other Red Shirts that tried to keep the situation from getting any more out of hand than it already was. Not long after, Red Shirt guards managed to get the two injured men out of the car, and sent them off to hospital safely."

(source: New Mandala)

[Ricardo]

Cue post from the usual suspects, claiming that this red-shirted thug was really a soldier disguised as a red-shirt, or was in fact perfectly entitled to intimidate & oppress the vendor, since he is fighting for freedom-for-the-people or justice or democracy. And the vendor is obviously a PAD-supporter, rather than just some poor woman, trying to earn a living.

You mean she is a 'yellow PAD' undercover?

It has not cross my innocent mind at all!

We are both clearly in need of urgent re-education by "Truth Today", who will assure us that she can't simply have been what she seems, since Thaksin has 110% support up here. Or else !

[Sandstone Art]

Cue post from the usual suspects, claiming that this red-shirted thug was really a soldier disguised as a red-shirt, or was in fact perfectly entitled to intimidate & oppress the vendor, since he is fighting for freedom-for-the-people or justice or democracy. And the vendor is obviously a PAD-supporter, rather than just some poor woman, trying to earn a living.

You mean she is a 'yellow PAD' undercover?

It has not cross my innocent mind at all!

We are both clearly in need of urgent re-education by "Truth Today", who will assure us that she can't simply have been what she seems, since Thaksin has 110% support up here. Or else !

Those 'reds' are getting more and more daring by the day. I suppose we really need to be re-educated and brain-washed by those 'Thugs Today' any day soon or we are goingto miss the boat to 'Thug-Sin' Island!

Judging by so many 'pro-red' posts today....the very first passport to be issused by that Island Republic will be you know who!

[Koo82]

Watch the video at 2nd minute. No heavy hitting was done until the car ran into a red:

I can't see the car number. Do you think Abhisit was in this car? I don’t think so.

This video shows that the hitting of Democrat Party Secretary did not happen yet. The reds caught one bodyguard of Abhisit and brought him to Government House stage to ask. I still could watch DStation that day (12th).

The reds said there were 3 dead reds at Interior Ministry, so they came back to look for the bodies. I don't know if there were death or not, but the scene of hitting Democrat Party Secretary

Red Shirts searched the buildings for their injured (none were found). Suddenly a car seemed to try to escape, followed by angry red Shirts. I went after, and found that the car crashed through a fence and into a taxi, and was stuck halfway in the compound and the foot path. In the car were two men stuck, the driver and Democrat Secretary-General Nipon Prombhand. Red Shirt guards surrounded the car, trying to hold the angry crowd back.

was said (by the reds) that happened 3 hours after the first event. Because the Secretary car ran into the reds and the Secretary did not apologize.

But tv channels put 2 scenes together so people think all happened at the same time.

[Koo82]

From Pbs channel: watch the car going back and forth to make it convenient for the reds to attack. The video said this happened for 10 minutes.

At 2nd minute, the video said when the reds found that Abhisit and Suthep were not in Interior Affairs, they slowed down.

[sriracha john]

Police charged over drug war

DSI starts fresh probe of deaths of 21 other teens

The Department of Special Investigation's decision to prosecute six police officers allegedly responsible for the death of a teenager in Roi Et looks set to trigger a wave of complaints against the Thaksin Shinawatra administration's war on drugs five years ago.

The DSI is also stepping into a fresh investigation of the killing of 21 young people in Kalasin, which many believe were extra-judicial executions.

It has taken more than five years for the DSI to wrap up its investigation into the death of 17-year-old Kiattisak Thitboonkrong, who was found hanged from the ceiling of a hut in Roi Et's Chang Han district in July 2004.

-- Bangkok Post 2009-05-23

[sriracha john]

too late to edit above post...

but the article continues here:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1716...d-over-drug-war

and contains the following Bangkok Post graphic:

[Plus]

From Pbs channel: watch the car going back and forth to make it convenient for the reds to attack. The video said this happened for 10 minutes.

At 2nd minute, the video said when the reds found that Abhisit and Suthep were not in Interior Affairs, they slowed down.

Thanks, Koo, for the video.

What a disgusting lynch mob that was! These people have lost all their dignity, it's like watching monkeys in the zoo.

I don't know what your point was, but if you wanted to elicit any sympathy for reds, it didn't work.

Maybe they should replay these clips on PBS again, so people don't forget them, as reds are trying to make a comeback while everyone else is trying to get over the horror of those days.

I really hope they do not replay them on Dstation, and no red ever blinks an eye anymore. If that is the case, I don't know how anyone can defend their humanity.

>>>>

It also reminded me of your other post where you said reds never cover their faces, never attack anyone and always smile.

[sriracha john]

A rampaging mob of thugs...

A horde of marauding and rioting malfeasants running amok is aiming to get empathy or sympathy or understanding???

The Reds own library of videos are turning out to be their own worst enemy… when they figure it out themselves, they'll end up throwing bricks through YouTube/Google office's windows.

Edited May 23, 2009 by sriracha john

[sriracha john]

Police charged over drug war

DSI starts fresh probe of deaths of 21 other teens

The Department of Special Investigation's decision to prosecute six police officers allegedly responsible for the death of a teenager in Roi Et looks set to trigger a wave of complaints against the Thaksin Shinawatra administration's war on drugs five years ago.

The DSI is also stepping into a fresh investigation of the killing of 21 young people in Kalasin, which many believe were extra-judicial executions.

It has taken more than five years for the DSI to wrap up its investigation into the death of 17-year-old Kiattisak Thitboonkrong, who was found hanged from the ceiling of a hut in Roi Et's Chang Han district in July 2004.

With appreciation for Admin's intervention, this latest news has very justifiably had a new Thaksin Drug War topic-specific thread made:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Police-Charg...ar-t267555.html

Police Charged Over Drug War

The fight for justice continues from today

Posts intended to be made on this thread regarding the Thaksin Drug War because of its receipt designation for the previous closed Thaksin Drug War topic-specific thread should all be made there in the new thread.

I am removing the tag, Thaksin Drug War, from the header of this thread.

[HagenvonTronje]

marshbags thread deserves a better fate, which is dedicated to awareness and with gods will final retribution for Thaksin and his partners in this sad and ongoing monstrousity of injustice.

you and marshbag, same person?

[HagenvonTronje]

Go on Thaksin, make my day, god willing, that is, especially for the EKJ,s and the Southern inhumanities you oversaw while in priviledged office as the premier of the beloved Thai people and the country.

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Thaksin does of course need to be the number one on the list for his evil haineous crimes, starting with the EKJ,S and the Southern murders and attrocities ect. ect. committed under his watch and personal supervision.

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If i may be allowed to quote the part quote above from Sriracha John post 690 in relation to the subject matter of other issues and in particular the EKJ thread.

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On the other hand the EKJ,S have nothing what so ever to do with the " reds " and is a totally seperate topic.

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The EKJ thread being a great example of what becomes of the possible unintentional non editing of certain posts by suspect trolls

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EKJ,s - EKJ,S - EKJ ???

[Koo82]

Why is there the subject "Police charged over drug war"? This thread is about arrest warrants for the reds.

[Koo82]

It also reminded me of your other post where you said reds never cover their faces, never attack anyone and always smile.

They started to hit hard after the car was running to them.

[sriracha john]

Given that we now have three (at least) threads running on charges facing Thaksin, I think we can safely close this and ask people to post here:

Arrest Warrants Issued For 14 Red Shirt Leaders And Thaksin

///CLOSED///

Family seeks return of 20 Million Baht

The family of a couple slain during the 2003 war on drugs is seeking the return of 20 million baht of assets that were seized from the victims. But they have been advised to first ask the police to drop the original drug charges against the couple. Chatchai Sutthiklom, adviser to the Office of Narcotics Control Board, said the family of Pongthep and Ampaiwan Rukhongprasert should use the Department of Special Investigation's findings to appeal for the charges to be dropped.

The couple were killed in Tak's Mae Sot district on May 18, 2003 during the Thaksin administration's war on drugs. More than 20 million baht of assets belonging to them were confiscated. The case is one of four high-profile cases involving extrajudicial killings during the anti-drugs campaign.

The DSI, which launched a probe into the killings in December 2006, found the couple was falsely accused of drug trafficking, prompting their family to seek the return of the confiscated assets.

Continued:

-- Bangkok Post 2009-05-16

Why is there the subject "Police charged over drug war"? This thread is about arrest warrants for the reds.

As you apparently missed Admin's post in Post # 674, it's re-posted above yours in this post.

You may wish to see the update to it in Post # 769.

Edited May 24, 2009 by sriracha john

[Koo82]

Thanks, SJ.

[Koo82]

It also reminded me of your other post where you said reds never cover their faces, never attack anyone and always smile.

How can I forget? I said they normally don't cover face.

I didn't say they never cover face. Does this man look like someone who hijacked the gas trucks and parked at Din Daeng?

He looked like a farmer.

[Ricardo]

It also reminded me of your other post where you said reds never cover their faces, never attack anyone and always smile.

They started to hit hard after the car was running to them.

Which of course is totally justified here, when it's red-shirted thugs attacking the PM's car, but remains a crime against humanity, when it's soldiers firing blanks against a bus being driven at them ? Double standards ?? Surely not.

[frodo]

Learned something new today. People who look like farmers don't hijack buses. Thanks for the enlightenment.

Edited May 24, 2009 by frodo

[HagenvonTronje]

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW

I underestimated the red shirts : Suthep

Published on May 25, 2009

Suthep Thaugsuban, the Democrat Party secretary-general who is the deputy prime minister in charge of security affairs, talks to Somroutai Sapsomboon and Kornchanok Raksaseri about the coalition government, the military, the red shirts and ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra. The main topics:

The government is viewed as being backed by the military.

I see that viewpoint as belonging to someone with a broken heart. They try to discredit and reduce the credibility of the military. They feel that when they were government, the military did not follow their orders. But when the Democrats are in power, the military does as instructed.

That image was caused by the fact that this government was formed inside the military barracks.

In fact, it was not a military unit; it was some place nearby, which I would like not to identify. I had good ties with senior figures in the military, and I particularly admired General Prawit [Wongsuwan, the current defence minister]. He didn't speak much but he spoke clearly. He could be reliable and was respected by younger military officers. So I got in touch with him.

My question for him was if the military would follow orders from a new government? That was an important question I had to ask. It's because I saw what happened during the governments of Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat. I wanted to know what the military thought, but I couldn't just go to the Army chief or the armed forces supreme commander and asked that question. I went to General Prawit because he was a retired officer and he should know what the younger generals thought. Prawit told me that the soldiers wanted the country to be free from conflict and that they would be pleased if anyone would do the job. He said the military was ready to follow government orders if they were lawful and legitimate.

I asked him frankly if the military thought of staging a coup given the volatile situation at that time. He said the military would stage another coup only if that was the last option to ensure the country's survival. It's because they had learned lessons. Even though they had the power, it's difficult for them to run the country due to the strong opposition from the international community and inside the country. He wished me good luck. I asked him to give the same answers to leaders of other prospective coalition partners if they asked the same questions. That's why [the prospective coalition leaders met in the place in question]. We already reached an agreement but the meeting was to make sure there would be no problems.

It was reported that Army chief General Anupong Paochinda was also present.

I would not be so specific as to who was there. I neither admit nor deny it. The meeting was held just to allow the prospective coalition partners to listen for themselves. One major concern for them was that if they joined a new coalition and the military staged a coup a few months afterwards, it would be disastrous for them. I told them I had someone apart from me who could give them assurance.

The military was viewed as taking no action about the incident in Pattaya. Previously it was the police who were 'in the neutral gear mode'.

Thank you for this question. People don't know the facts. The problem is we have no laws about crowd control. In the Pattaya case, it was the police who were in charge and the military acted as their assistants. It turned out there were not enough police [to deal with the protesters]. There are too many roads to the hotel [the venue for the Asean Summit with dialogue partners in April]. It was like a basket with holes; protesters came in from everywhere. Frankly speaking, the police did not want to confront protesters because they were afraid of clashes. They learned some lessons and became the culprits in the eyes of society from the earlier bloody clashes with protesters, including the yellow shirts.

The police spoke frankly about their problem. At that time I asked them openly if there was some way that would shift the responsibility to the politicians in power. They said no way, and I got shivers. The red shirts said they would come in several thousands. I thought of using soldiers as volunteers but there was only a small number of them. And the government asked them to use only shields. At that time the red shirts threatened to use violent methods, which I didn't think they would actually do. I was afraid of clashes so I instructed the police and the military not to use force. I didn't want the matter to be politicised, which would cause damage to the country. I consulted with MPs, the Chon Buri governor and the mayor of Pattaya, and we agreed to bring out civilians. We believed that civilians would not clash with civilians, as we were more concerned with a possible clash between security forces and protesters. The government stressed that no weapons would be used and everyone agreed.

Chon Buri's authorities told me they had blue shirts, which were part of the Interior Ministry campaign for social unity. We agreed to use the blue shirts. At night I inspected different locations and Newin Chidchob emerged. In fact there were others, such as Suwit Khunkitti. Everyone wanted the summit to go ahead without problems. We agreed to group soldiers, police and civilians and prepared vehicles with sound systems for them to counter the protesters. We wanted to buy time; we needed a little over one day before the summit would be completed.

However, as Pattaya is a tourist city and people wake up late, people who promised to join arrived later than the red shirts. Eventually there were clashes and things didn't go as planned. The soldiers were not prepared for a clash while most of the police had to go to the hotels where foreign leaders stayed, as many red-shirt taxi drivers protested there.

Some people said it was Newin's plan to include the blue shirts and that caused the Pattaya Asean Summit to be cancelled.

That's a misunderstanding. The blue shirts have been distributed by the Interior Ministry all over the country. That is part of a campaign for social peace and unity. Many of the blue shirts were not distributed because people arrived late. The red shirts managed to take some of the shirts that were piled up to be distributed.

Our goal was to avoid creating a perception that Thai people clashed with one another. When the red shirt protesters besieged Government House, we went to work elsewhere to avoid confrontation. Instead of using force, the government went to court. Even for the Asean Summit in Pattaya, we opted for a soft stance. But frankly speaking I made a wrong evaluation about them. That's a mistake I have to admit. I didn't think my countrymen would have done so many bad things. In the past, things that would affect the country's image often were avoided. The images of them [red-shirt protesters] storming into the hotel and smashing glasses were terrifying for foreigners. I didn't expect them to be that serious.

As for the incident at the Interior Ministry, some people suspect it was a plot to 'trap' the red shirts.

The reason why we had to go to the Interior Ministry was that it was a holiday and we had no place to go. To declare such an important announcement [state of emergency], we couldn't do it at some hotel. Also, the person who drafted the announcement - Deputy Interior Minister Thaworn Senneam - was working at the Interior Ministry. The ministry has a network of communications with the provincial authorities, which makes it easy for explanation. There was no hidden agenda as to why the Interior Ministry was selected.

The red shirts plan another major rally at Sanam Luang. Do you have any plan to deal with it?

Wherever the protest is, as long as it causes no troubles for others, the government won't prevent it. But if they break into small groups to besiege different places, I won't tolerate that.

There is a proposal that the government should negotiate with Thaksin Shinawatra, who is viewed as the root cause of the political conflict.

Don't you remember that shortly after the government was formed, I asked him for a talk and he rejected it? Today I am not in a position to talk with him. He has already committed a lot of offences. His demands are that he be exempted from jail and his confiscated money be returned. I can't talk to him now.

Did Thaksin really say those were his demands?

He did not say it clearly but it's clear enough.

Have you been in talk with him secretly?

Never. I have no political secrets.

Why did some Democrat MPs came out to express their dissatisfaction over the performance of Cabinet members from the Democrat Party?

The past four months were hectic for the government. There was no time for sitting down and talking. There are some issues that Cabinet members need to explain to the party's MPs, but they haven't done so. These include the preparation of the 2010 Budget Bill; MPs want explanations as to why certain projects got funding while others in their provinces didn't. Certain projects were shelved and really upset many MPs. I think that within the next two weeks, I will ask the party's Cabinet members to explain to MPs about the budget bill even though it has not been tabled for parliamentary deliberation.

What about the upcoming Cabinet reshuffle?

I prefer not to call it a reshuffle; it will be simply appointing new people to replace someone. As the 'government manager' I am waiting for nominations. Other coalition parties have not made any suggestions regarding this matter. When I asked them to join the coalition, we agreed that they would keep the seats they held in the previous government. The principle will stay and the more MP seats they get won't affect the original quotas.

How is the government over the past four months?

The government is facing crises on two sides. First, it's economic crisis, and the prime minister announced that he would first take care of the majority of the country- farmers. He looked into the rice issue himself and assigned Deputy Prime Minister Korbsak Sabhavasu to oversee corn. I take care of rubber.

The other side involves security and political problems. Thaksin and the 'Thaksin regime' have caused problems for the country. We try to be as flexible as possible and avoid clashes by any means. We want people to be aware that what happened posed a serious threat to national security. In the recent Coronation Day, the government encouraged people to wear different colours of shirts to celebrate. The point is that although we have different political views, we have the same King. From now on I will do more and more about this.

This year I will have two big projects. First, it's about Mother's Day. Her Majesty the Queen initiated many projects and I will ask the state agencies to carry on those projects and call for public participation. And there will be follow-up activities about Coronation Day. Members of the public will be encouraged to join different projects initiated by His Majesty the King, particularly ones involving the philosophy of Sufficiency Economy. The goal is to prevent people from becoming too obsessed with political conflict.

-- The Nation May 25, 2009

article here

[HagenvonTronje]

Dear Koo.

It gets tiresome, indeed. You avoid my questions and if you answer then with vague "facts" which are often easily rebutted (right word?) with real evidence.

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The pictures you post prove not much, Koo, as opposed to numerous videos available on YouTube and other p;laces. Even on television (i was in Chiang Mai at the time) were reports, now regarding the buses and "who brought them in", one of th videos (which i saw on television) showed soldiers storming one white-blue bus that had just been crashed into another, orange, bus and dragging the red-shirted driver out of it. Another video on televison showed another white-blue bus being driven at speed into a group of soldiers, clearly with intent to kill.

dragging are red shirted driver out of the bus? your are not talking about this video here, this red shirted bus driver has a complete other story to tell and he didin't crashed the bus into a another, an orange coloured bus. is that what you believe that you saw it also on youtube? and all the other bus cases, is there clear evidence it was done by red shirts, or did you just saw buses and soldiers?

and as i had promised, to refresh your memory about yellow shirt and buses. here is one AFP photo, just for the start.

Thai protesters of the People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) use a public bus as they try to force themselves in the parliament area secured by riot policemen during a protest, in Bangkok on October 7, 2008. Police fired tear gas on protesters massed outside parliament in the Thai capital, injuring 85 people as months of political turmoil boiled over, police and a medical official said. source

One of your pictures shows that lady with the black bra. It was on television, too. She later went on to claim that she was hit by soldiers, the case was on television including the video. Note to stupid protesters: If you plan on claiming something, make sure there's no camera filming your actions. Because, unfortunately for her, no soldiers anywhere near when "it" happened. And while it is easy to modify a picture it becomes somewhat more difficult to do so with a video, specially one that runs on live television and is being recorded from there.

not sure about what situation you are dreaming or what kind of picture koo had shown.

your are not talking about this situation on the picture below, because here i can see some soldiers nearby, actually doing nothing, but wasn't it their order to restore the law?

btw. this was a case wrongly located by the television to din daeng area, more about this here

Actually i start to believe that you two are the same person. So much BS just can't be made up by two at the same time.

this one you get wrong too, and i could point out a couple of more points where it's you, who are just talking BS.