April 21, 200916 yr A young Thai lady rented one of our cars a fortnight ago, along with two scooters ( MO-Ci's).She checked in everyday with the same story. " One more day please" We didn't think anything of it, after all she was Police, from the border patrol. We eventually found out she had hocked our vehicles, along with one rented from the Petchkasem hotel. We reported it to her bosses. Now this is a response that could only happen here. " Stolen two cars and two bikes and sold them. Oh dear. She's always doing that" If 'she's always doing that' what the <deleted> is she doing walking around free. To compound matters, the people she hocked them with have contacted us and said " You can have the cars back when you pay up" " But they're stolen" " So, you must still pay for them" Has anyone else had any experiences like this?
April 21, 200916 yr sold stolen goods. dam_n, that is harsh. maybe contact the Main Royal Thai police HQ in Bangkok & take it higher?
April 21, 200916 yr Hocked? What does that mean? I.E. Raised money against them as in pawnbrokers. Sounds like a nice cosy deal with everyone making cash apart from the rightfull owner! TBWG
April 21, 200916 yr A young Thai lady rented one of our cars a fortnight ago, along with two scooters ( MO-Ci's).She checked in everyday with the same story. " One more day please" We didn't think anything of it, after all she was Police, from the border patrol. We eventually found out she had hocked our vehicles, along with one rented from the Petchkasem hotel. We reported it to her bosses. Now this is a response that could only happen here. " Stolen two cars and two bikes and sold them. Oh dear. She's always doing that" If 'she's always doing that' what the <deleted> is she doing walking around free. To compound matters, the people she hocked them with have contacted us and said " You can have the cars back when you pay up" " But they're stolen" " So, you must still pay for them" Has anyone else had any experiences like this? Selling a Car The procedure for selling a used car in Thailand is similar to the one for buying one and is completed at the local DLT office. The seller must provide signed ownership documents - the Blue Book, a passport, visa and work permit or a Certificate or Letter of Residence issued by Thai Immigration or their Embassy. If the previous owner is Thai they have to provide an ID card and House Registration Documents. If the car is over seven years old it must have passed a roadworthiness test. If the car has an up-to-date tax sticker this will prove that the roadworthiness test has been carried out. Normally the buyer and seller complete the transfer of ownership paperwork together at the local DLT office, but it is possible to give power of attorney to a third party. How did she get around the Blue Book not being provided? Are you able to check whether ownership has officially been transferred? Sounds like the boss is in on the scam. If you are able to locate the vehicles are you able to take forcefull return of same?? Must be a higher authority in Police that you can take up with. Hope it works out OK for you.
April 21, 200916 yr Author sold stolen goods.dam_n, that is harsh. maybe contact the Main Royal Thai police HQ in Bangkok & take it higher? Just heard,thePolice Chief of Surin Province has heard and is on the case.
April 21, 200916 yr sold stolen goods.dam_n, that is harsh. maybe contact the Main Royal Thai police HQ in Bangkok & take it higher? Just heard,thePolice Chief of Surin Province has heard and is on the case. Hope thats not the geezer you bared yer bum too a while back Good luck Mate. Amazing Thailand LOL Dave
April 21, 200916 yr Surely if you have the Green/Blue books for the veichles and signed paperwork for the rental agreement the law is on your side and you are the rightful owner....although TIT.....but what can the pawnbroker do with them.....cant sell them whilst in your name....
April 21, 200916 yr Surely if you have the Green/Blue books for the veichles and signed paperwork for the rental agreement the law is on your side and you are the rightful owner....although TIT.....but what can the pawnbroker do with them.....cant sell them whilst in your name.... Counterfeit/Forged books spring to mind
April 21, 200916 yr Author Surely if you have the Green/Blue books for the veichles and signed paperwork for the rental agreement the law is on your side and you are the rightful owner....although TIT.....but what can the pawnbroker do with them.....cant sell them whilst in your name.... Where are we????????????????????
April 21, 200916 yr Don't know about most but me and my wife would go after this women hook line a sinker, you should do like wise, start by talking to a lawyer, because bosses just might be in on the SCAM. This is yet another case that makes you distrust the POLICE even more, what a sorry sorry bunch of people that are duty bound to uphold the law. these Criminals cops UP.
April 22, 200916 yr As the economy slides down the toilet its the one group in society here that worries me most.Good luck getting it resolved.
April 22, 200916 yr Author It's turned into something akin to Get Smart now. The Chinese Mafia have told us to meet them in Big 'C' car park to hand over the keys. Strictly NO police involvement. Any one got Bruce Willis's phone number?
April 22, 200916 yr It's turned into something akin to Get Smart now. The Chinese Mafia have told us to meet them in Big 'C' car park to hand over the keys. Strictly NO police involvement. Any one got Bruce Willis's phone number? Sure it ain't The Meat Pie Mafia
April 22, 200916 yr Author Latest: They didn't show with the car. They thought we had Police watching. I know what Lindenburg felt like now
April 22, 200916 yr Latest: They didn't show with the car. They thought we had Police watching. I know what Lindenburg felt like now Seems that they are bothered about being identified with the vehicle in there possession, although they have been in contact. Why don't they leave vehicle locked in BigC or similar place and courier/motor bike taxi keys to you. They could then phone through vehicles location to you. Assume that vehicle is being returned without you being further out of pocket?
April 22, 200916 yr It seems reasonable that when you rent something you could request a copy of the Thai ID card and take a picture of the person. Which you probably did at least with the ID card. The first thing that popped into my mind is that someone is testing you to see how easy it would be to take over your business. But I'm paranoid and cynical and missed my medication..... I have heard that an officially filed debt claim against a Thai ID card can make life difficult for the Thai citizen until resolved. But I'm not sure what the difficulty would be - perhaps performing official transactions of some sort. kenk3z
April 22, 200916 yr It seems you have all the luck in the world Martin. I hope you have some good luck on getting everything back big guy. John.....
April 23, 200916 yr Author It seems reasonable that when you rent something you could request a copy of the Thai ID card and take a picture of the person. Which you probably did at least with the ID card.The first thing that popped into my mind is that someone is testing you to see how easy it would be to take over your business. But I'm paranoid and cynical and missed my medication..... I have heard that an officially filed debt claim against a Thai ID card can make life difficult for the Thai citizen until resolved. But I'm not sure what the difficulty would be - perhaps performing official transactions of some sort. kenk3z Remember she is Thai Police. A completely different species to the rest of the World.
April 23, 200916 yr Remember she is Thai Police. A completely different species to the rest of the World. Is that not a good reason to do things 'by the books' then but deal with 'The Organ Grinder & not the Monkeys'. Dave
April 24, 200916 yr Remember she is Thai Police. A completely different species to the rest of the World. Curious on outcome of this. Did you get vehicle back or does saga continue??
April 24, 200916 yr Presumably the money obtained by her was in settlement of gambling debts? Next time rent to farang only but how bizarre? Only in Thailand.
April 24, 200916 yr ... the law is on your side ... :D :D Oh stop!, My sides... :jerk: The law IS on your side,the Bluebook isn't so easy to falsify,the ID Card number can identify the thief. Now,have you the number of a Royal Thai Police General? If not,a well connected Mafia member will do,for a fee,20% up of the value.Bargains permitted!
April 25, 200916 yr Presumably the money obtained by her was in settlement of gambling debts?Next time rent to farang only but how bizarre? Only in Thailand. The guys who rent out vehicles in Pattaya of the "I own it, don't need / can't afford it / want to make some money from it" crew who don't have hire and reward insurance, would never let a Thai borrow it, nevermind rent one to them.
April 26, 200916 yr Martin don't know what your rental policy is ? but in Pattaya last year nobody would rent a car to my Thai girlfriend for the weekend unless i guaranteed it as a foreigner with my passport. Saw a clean looking Range Rover outside your place a few weeks ago, is that for rent too ?
April 27, 200916 yr Author Martin don't know what your rental policy is ? but in Pattaya last year nobody would rent a car to my Thai girlfriend for the weekend unless i guaranteed it as a foreigner with my passport. Saw a clean looking Range Rover outside your place a few weeks ago, is that for rent too ? Don't think the owner would like that. It's got English plates. But that's it now. NO Thais unless we know them. ( And no Police, even if we do)
April 27, 200916 yr Surely the insurance company will cover the costs of your losses. It is theft, after all.
April 27, 200916 yr It's turned into something akin to Get Smart now. The Chinese Mafia have told us to meet them in Big 'C' car park to hand over the keys. Strictly NO police involvement. Any one got Bruce Willis's phone number? Think steven segal would be a better choice.
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