True Story

[farangconnection]

A young Thai lady rented one of our cars a fortnight ago, along with two scooters ( MO-Ci's).She checked in everyday with the same story. " One more day please" We didn't think anything of it, after all she was Police, from the border patrol. We eventually found out she had hocked our vehicles, along with one rented from the Petchkasem hotel.

We reported it to her bosses. Now this is a response that could only happen here.

" Stolen two cars and two bikes and sold them. Oh dear. She's always doing that"

If 'she's always doing that' what the <deleted> is she doing walking around free. To compound matters, the people she hocked them with have contacted us and said " You can have the cars back when you pay up"

" But they're stolen"

" So, you must still pay for them"

Has anyone else had any experiences like this?

[rixalex]

Hocked? What does that mean?

[Boo]

sold stolen goods.

dam_n, that is harsh. maybe contact the Main Royal Thai police HQ in Bangkok & take it higher?

[TBWG]

Hocked? What does that mean?

I.E. Raised money against them as in pawnbrokers. Sounds like a nice cosy deal with everyone making cash apart from the rightfull owner!

TBWG

[degilbo]

A young Thai lady rented one of our cars a fortnight ago, along with two scooters ( MO-Ci's).She checked in everyday with the same story. " One more day please" We didn't think anything of it, after all she was Police, from the border patrol. We eventually found out she had hocked our vehicles, along with one rented from the Petchkasem hotel.

We reported it to her bosses. Now this is a response that could only happen here.

" Stolen two cars and two bikes and sold them. Oh dear. She's always doing that"

If 'she's always doing that' what the <deleted> is she doing walking around free. To compound matters, the people she hocked them with have contacted us and said " You can have the cars back when you pay up"

" But they're stolen"

" So, you must still pay for them"

Has anyone else had any experiences like this?

Selling a Car

The procedure for selling a used car in Thailand is similar to the one for buying one and is completed at the local DLT office.

The seller must provide signed ownership documents - the Blue Book, a passport, visa and work permit or a Certificate or Letter of Residence issued by Thai Immigration or their Embassy. If the previous owner is Thai they have to provide an ID card and House Registration Documents.

If the car is over seven years old it must have passed a roadworthiness test. If the car has an up-to-date tax sticker this will prove that the roadworthiness test has been carried out.

Normally the buyer and seller complete the transfer of ownership paperwork together at the local DLT office, but it is possible to give power of attorney to a third party.

How did she get around the Blue Book not being provided?

Are you able to check whether ownership has officially been transferred?

Sounds like the boss is in on the scam.

If you are able to locate the vehicles are you able to take forcefull return of same??

Must be a higher authority in Police that you can take up with.

Hope it works out OK for you.

[farangconnection]

sold stolen goods.

dam_n, that is harsh. maybe contact the Main Royal Thai police HQ in Bangkok & take it higher?

Just heard,thePolice Chief of Surin Province has heard and is on the case.

[Dave the Dude]

sold stolen goods.

dam_n, that is harsh. maybe contact the Main Royal Thai police HQ in Bangkok & take it higher?

Just heard,thePolice Chief of Surin Province has heard and is on the case.

Hope thats not the geezer you bared yer bum too a while back

Good luck Mate. Amazing Thailand LOL

Dave

Edited April 21, 2009 by Dave the Dude

[PatinBKk]

Surely if you have the Green/Blue books for the veichles and signed paperwork for the rental agreement the law is on your side and you are the rightful owner....although TIT.....but what can the pawnbroker do with them.....cant sell them whilst in your name....

[Dave the Dude]

Surely if you have the Green/Blue books for the veichles and signed paperwork for the rental agreement the law is on your side and you are the rightful owner....although TIT.....but what can the pawnbroker do with them.....cant sell them whilst in your name....

Counterfeit/Forged books spring to mind

[farangconnection]

Surely if you have the Green/Blue books for the veichles and signed paperwork for the rental agreement the law is on your side and you are the rightful owner....although TIT.....but what can the pawnbroker do with them.....cant sell them whilst in your name....

Where are we????????????????????

[BigSnake]

Don't know about most but me and my wife would go after this women hook line a sinker, you should do like wise, start by talking to a lawyer, because bosses just might be in on the SCAM. This is yet another case that makes you distrust the POLICE even more, what a sorry sorry bunch of people that are duty bound to uphold the law. these Criminals cops UP.

[parryhandy]

As the economy slides down the toilet its the one group in society here that worries me most.Good luck getting it resolved.

[farangconnection]

It's turned into something akin to Get Smart now. The Chinese Mafia have told us to meet them in Big 'C' car park to hand over the keys. Strictly NO police involvement.

Any one got Bruce Willis's phone number?

[Dave the Dude]

It's turned into something akin to Get Smart now. The Chinese Mafia have told us to meet them in Big 'C' car park to hand over the keys. Strictly NO police involvement.

Any one got Bruce Willis's phone number?

Sure it ain't The Meat Pie Mafia

[farangconnection]

Latest: They didn't show with the car. They thought we had Police watching. I know what Lindenburg felt like now

[degilbo]

Latest: They didn't show with the car. They thought we had Police watching. I know what Lindenburg felt like now

Seems that they are bothered about being identified with the vehicle in there possession, although they have been in contact.

Why don't they leave vehicle locked in BigC or similar place and courier/motor bike taxi keys to you. They could then phone through vehicles location to you. Assume that vehicle is being returned without you being further out of pocket?

[kenk3z]

It seems reasonable that when you rent something you could request a copy of the Thai ID card and take a picture of the person. Which you probably did at least with the ID card.

The first thing that popped into my mind is that someone is testing you to see how easy it would be to take over your business. But I'm paranoid and cynical and missed my medication.....

I have heard that an officially filed debt claim against a Thai ID card can make life difficult for the Thai citizen until resolved. But I'm not sure what the difficulty would be - perhaps performing official transactions of some sort.

kenk3z

Edited April 22, 2009 by kenk3z

[johnsurin]

It seems you have all the luck in the world Martin.

I hope you have some good luck on getting everything back big guy.

John.....

[farangconnection]

It seems reasonable that when you rent something you could request a copy of the Thai ID card and take a picture of the person. Which you probably did at least with the ID card.

The first thing that popped into my mind is that someone is testing you to see how easy it would be to take over your business. But I'm paranoid and cynical and missed my medication.....

I have heard that an officially filed debt claim against a Thai ID card can make life difficult for the Thai citizen until resolved. But I'm not sure what the difficulty would be - perhaps performing official transactions of some sort.

kenk3z

Remember she is Thai Police. A completely different species to the rest of the World.

[Dave the Dude]

Remember she is Thai Police. A completely different species to the rest of the World.

Is that not a good reason to do things 'by the books' then but deal with 'The Organ Grinder & not the Monkeys'.

Dave

[degilbo]

Remember she is Thai Police. A completely different species to the rest of the World.

Curious on outcome of this. Did you get vehicle back or does saga continue??

[phaethon]

... the law is on your side ...

:D :D

Oh stop!, My sides... :jerk:

[Electra]

Presumably the money obtained by her was in settlement of gambling debts?

Next time rent to farang only but how bizarre? Only in Thailand.

[abdulrahman]

... the law is on your side ...

:D :D

Oh stop!, My sides... :jerk:

The law IS on your side,the Bluebook isn't so easy to falsify,the ID Card number can identify the thief.

Now,have you the number of a Royal Thai Police General?

If not,a well connected Mafia member will do,for a fee,20% up of the value.Bargains permitted!

[torrenova]

Presumably the money obtained by her was in settlement of gambling debts?

Next time rent to farang only but how bizarre? Only in Thailand.

The guys who rent out vehicles in Pattaya of the "I own it, don't need / can't afford it / want to make some money from it" crew who don't have hire and reward insurance, would never let a Thai borrow it, nevermind rent one to them.

[Asianrider]

Martin don't know what your rental policy is ? but in Pattaya last year nobody would rent a car to my Thai girlfriend for the weekend unless i guaranteed it as a foreigner with my passport. Saw a clean looking Range Rover outside your place a few weeks ago, is that for rent too ?

[farangconnection]

Martin don't know what your rental policy is ? but in Pattaya last year nobody would rent a car to my Thai girlfriend for the weekend unless i guaranteed it as a foreigner with my passport. Saw a clean looking Range Rover outside your place a few weeks ago, is that for rent too ?

Don't think the owner would like that. It's got English plates. But that's it now. NO Thais unless we know them. ( And no Police, even if we do)

[jaiyenyen]

Surely the insurance company will cover the costs of your losses. It is theft, after all.

[basjke]

It's turned into something akin to Get Smart now. The Chinese Mafia have told us to meet them in Big 'C' car park to hand over the keys. Strictly NO police involvement.

Any one got Bruce Willis's phone number?

Think steven segal would be a better choice.