Great article HH, theres a bit more to it than the FA cup draw. Interesting to find out what really goes on.

Great article HH, theres a bit more to it than the FA cup draw. Interesting to find out what really goes on.

Yeah it was, cheers HH. Maybe Fergusson needs to read it, instead of believing the whole world is plotting against Man United.

Oh and only about four and a half hors to go boys.

Well the first round of the Carling cup Looks like this:

Accrington Stanley v Walsall

Huddersfield v Stockport

Rotherham v Derby

Tranmere v Grimsby

Sheff Weds v Rochdale

Bury v West Brom

Notts County v Doncaster

Lincoln v Barnsley

Scunthorpe v Chesterfield

Coventry v Hartlepool

Darlington v Leeds

Preston v Morecambe

Crewe v Blackpool

Carlisle v Oldham

Nottm Forest v Bradford

Macclesfield v Leicester

Sheff Utd v Port Vale

Cardiff v Dag & Red

Wycombe v Peterborough

Southampton v Northampton

Barnet v Watford

Hereford v Charlton

Bristol Rovers v Aldershot

Millwall v Bournemouth

Gillingham v Plymouth

Colchester v Leyton Orient

Reading v Burton Albion

Exeter v QPR

Cheltenham v Southend

Brentford v Bristol City

Yeovil v Norwich

Crystal Palace v Torquay

MK Dons v Swindon

Swansea v Brighton

Shrewsbury v Ipswich

Im happy with a Home draw against Derby and yes yes yes the footy season is nearly here........

Nice draw for the Daggers..

Fixtures out at 16:00 our time today...

seems someone at sky sports slipped up yesterday and put them up on screen early.

Here you go -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/e...res/default.stm

Unless you like a team in the bastardised league -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/e...res/default.stm

Could this mean relegation from Brum?????

From the BBC:-

Manchester United will begin the defence of their Premier League title at home to newly promoted Birmingham.

Carlo Ancelotti's first game in charge at Chelsea will be against Hull at Stamford Bridge as the campaign gets under way on the weekend of August 15.

Liverpool open at Tottenham while Arsenal face Everton at Goodison Park.

Wolves play West Ham at Molineux and Burnley visit Stoke on their return to the top flight before facing Manchester United at Turf Moor 18 August.

Big-spending Manchester City make the journey to Blackburn on the opening day before hosting Everton at Eastlands on 19 August.

New Wigan boss Roberto Martinez starts his reign at Aston Villa, while Bolton are at home to Steve Bruce's Sunderland and Portsmouth meet Fulham at Fratton Park.

Paul Fletcher's blog

Putting the fixture list together is incredibly complex - with a whole series of factors ensuring it is an increasingly difficult task

Paul Fletcher

Manchester United have to wait until the end of the month before they play one of the top four clubs as they take on Arsenal at Old Trafford on 29 August, with the return fixture at the Emirates on 30 January.

Sir Alex Ferguson's side visit Anfield to play Liverpool on 24 October and last season's runners-up are at Old Trafford on 20 March. Chelsea are the last of the other top four sides to face United when they play the champions at Stamford Bridge on 7 November, with the return fixture on 3 April.

Last season's losing Champions League finalists close the season at home to Stoke on 9 May, while Liverpool finish their season at Hull on 9 May.

Liverpool visit Stamford Bridge on October 3, while Chelsea travel to Anfield on 1 May.

Wolves fans will be looking forward to a December 15 trip to Old Trafford to play Manchester United and a home fixture against the champions on March 6, while fellow top-flight newcomers Birmingham play the champions at St Andrews on 9 January.

seems someone at sky sports slipped up yesterday and put them up on screen early.

Well that was a wind up

Arsenal V Everton is probably the pick of the first days fixtures. Birmingham will be happy to play Man Utd first as they never start quickly maybe chance for a point there.

is it me or do united get a newly-promoted team first game every fuc_king season? randomly generated by computer my arse.

is it me or do united get a newly-promoted team first game every fuc_king season? randomly generated by computer my arse.

redrus

i know it isn't fact redrus but by christ it does seem that you lot get a fuc_king easy opener every season. that said you didn't beat the barcodes at home last year. fuc_king spurs away, we are always bastard well away first day.

i know it isn't fact redrus but by christ it does seem that you lot get a fuc_king easy opener every season. that said you didn't beat the barcodes at home last year. fuc_king spurs away, we are always bastard well away first day.

We're never very good anyway so we need an easy start and, there's got to be something for you guys to talk about early doors....!

redrus

has mister ferguson approved the fixture list yet though? it's not official until then.

has mister ferguson approved the fixture list yet though? it's not official until then.

Ha ha..... He's passed it on this year I believe, too busy in the counting house....

redrus

I'll suffer Molineux first up all day long....

Suffer ?

One can but hope you will !!!!!

has mister ferguson approved the fixture list yet though? it's not official until then.

Ha ha..... He's passed it on this year I believe, too busy in the counting house....

redrus

heard an interesting stat on first day fixtures yesterday:

man united have had a home match 10 times out of the last 12 seasons.

last time liverpool were at home the first day of the season was 2002, and that was bloody chelsea!

they are completely random though of course.

has mister ferguson approved the fixture list yet though? it's not official until then.

Ha ha..... He's passed it on this year I believe, too busy in the counting house....

redrus

heard an interesting stat on first day fixtures yesterday:

man united have had a home match 10 times out of the last 12 seasons.

last time liverpool were at home the first day of the season was 2002, and that was bloody chelsea!

they are completely random though of course.

That'll change when Taggart retires...

That'll change when Taggart retires...

fuc_king hopefully. pressure he puts on everybody in the game is enormous. he started it all again last week int he charity shield, berating the referee at the end. guarantee they'll get a big dodgy decision in their favour against birmingham.

That'll change when Taggart retires...

fuc_king hopefully. pressure he puts on everybody in the game is enormous. he started it all again last week int he charity shield, berating the referee at the end. guarantee they'll get a big dodgy decision in their favour against birmingham.

bit early in the year to start blaming everyone for our success - or is this just a carry-over from last year, and the year before that?

That'll change when Taggart retires...

fuc_king hopefully. pressure he puts on everybody in the game is enormous. he started it all again last week int he charity shield, berating the referee at the end. guarantee they'll get a big dodgy decision in their favour against birmingham.

bit early in the year to start blaming everyone for our success - or is this just a carry-over from last year, and the year before that?

Dont worry james they are getting there excuses in early.

Scousers blaming everyone else but themselves for not winning the league for 20 years whats new.

We all have to play the same 38 games and as redrus said we are dreadfull starters maybe if we played chelsea away first game get a hard one out of the way when we are not playing well we might win by more points.

How many games did liverpool end up playing against 10 men last season?