It's amazing we survived MANY of the things we did in our youth... and many of them didn't include other people. I remember logging and mining accidents that were insane and never should have happened. And, if todays Workers Compensation rules were followed they never would have. Most of my near misses happened either logging or while on hunting trips in the wilderness of BC.

But, probably the most risky thing I've done is what I do on a regular basis right here in Thailand... ride around in Thai traffic on a motorcycle. You have to have your awareness antenna up 100% of the time and even that's not always enough.

yeah...I remember them near misses in the woods...I worked on high lead rigging crews in SE Alaska and Oregon and once got in the way of a haul back line that knocked me on my ass...wuz able to stand up and walk away but not until I had an earful from the hooktender who wuz screamin' 'yew dumb POS!!! how many times I gotta tell ye t'stay outta the way ob dem lines!!! (I wuz new at the job at the time, settin' chokers)...if yew get busted up I ain't packin' yer ass outta here!!!' etc., etc.,...in the old days they'd put an injured crew member behind a stump until the end of the day; if he survived, OK; if not, too bad...

now, I won't go near a motorbike in Thailand (except as an occasional passenger)...ye gots t'be clazy to attempt that one...

It's amazing we survived MANY of the things we did in our youth... and many of them didn't include other people. I remember logging and mining accidents that were insane and never should have happened. And, if todays Workers Compensation rules were followed they never would have. Most of my near misses happened either logging or while on hunting trips in the wilderness of BC.

But, probably the most risky thing I've done is what I do on a regular basis right here in Thailand... ride around in Thai traffic on a motorcycle. You have to have your awareness antenna up 100% of the time and even that's not always enough.

yeah...I remember them near misses in the woods...I worked on high lead rigging crews in SE Alaska and Oregon and once got in the way of a haul back line that knocked me on my ass...wuz able to stand up and walk away but not until I had an earful from the hooktender who wuz screamin' 'yew dumb POS!!! how many times I gotta tell ye t'stay outta the way ob dem lines!!! (I wuz new at the job at the time, settin' chokers)...if yew get busted up I ain't packin' yer ass outta here!!!' etc., etc.,...in the old days they'd put an injured crew member behind a stump until the end of the day; if he survived, OK; if not, too bad...

now, I won't go near a motorbike in Thailand (except as an occasional passenger)...ye gots t'be clazy to attempt that one...

The hooktender who originally gave me a chewing out for "working in the bite" had his head taken clean off by a whipping haulback line. You were lucky to have survived. I've lost count of all my near misses and I still have the scars to show for a few. I also have poor hearing from walking into an area the powderman was blowing stumps. I got knocked 30 feet and lost some of my hearing. I STILL have little pebbles imbedded in my hide from that "accident".

It's amazing we survived MANY of the things we did in our youth... and many of them didn't include other people. I remember logging and mining accidents that were insane and never should have happened. And, if todays Workers Compensation rules were followed they never would have. Most of my near misses happened either logging or while on hunting trips in the wilderness of BC.

But, probably the most risky thing I've done is what I do on a regular basis right here in Thailand... ride around in Thai traffic on a motorcycle. You have to have your awareness antenna up 100% of the time and even that's not always enough.

yeah...I remember them near misses in the woods...I worked on high lead rigging crews in SE Alaska and Oregon and once got in the way of a haul back line that knocked me on my ass...wuz able to stand up and walk away but not until I had an earful from the hooktender who wuz screamin' 'yew dumb POS!!! how many times I gotta tell ye t'stay outta the way ob dem lines!!! (I wuz new at the job at the time, settin' chokers)...if yew get busted up I ain't packin' yer ass outta here!!!' etc., etc.,...in the old days they'd put an injured crew member behind a stump until the end of the day; if he survived, OK; if not, too bad...

now, I won't go near a motorbike in Thailand (except as an occasional passenger)...ye gots t'be clazy to attempt that one...

The hooktender who originally gave me a chewing out for "working in the bite" had his head taken clean off by a whipping haulback line. You were lucky to have survived. I've lost count of all my near misses and I still have the scars to show for a few. I also have poor hearing from walking into an area the powderman was blowing stumps. I got knocked 30 feet and lost some of my hearing. I STILL have little pebbles imbedded in my hide from that "accident".

true...ye gotta watch it when workin' wid powder...early spring an' the logs frozen to the ground from the previous winter an' ye'd dig little holes in the ice underneath so ye could set a charge (30% nitro) to blast a choker hole...stand on top of the log above the charge with the two little wires from the blasting cap, take out the flashlight battery from yer pocket then boom; safest place to be when there was fire in the hole...sounds crazy but true; the log would give a little jump with the explosion...

as me old mate Bill Hill useta say 'a liddle powder goes a long way'...

(what's all this about loggin'? we're supposed to be talkin' about frozen wild dogs... )

I watched a documentary yesterday, called "Becoming a Man In Siberia" about some nomadic reindeer herders. A scene reminded me of this thread.

The boy was left to look after the herd overnight. It was -50 celsius! Wolves killed 3 deer, and in the morning, the boy's dad was scolding him for not being alert, pulling the deer head up and gesticulating to the boy. The reindeer carcases were floppy, not frozen, after several hours at -50.

I watched a documentary yesterday, called "Becoming a Man In Siberia" about some nomadic reindeer herders. A scene reminded me of this thread.

The boy was left to look after the herd overnight. It was -50 celsius! Wolves killed 3 deer, and in the morning, the boy's dad was scolding him for not being alert, pulling the deer head up and gesticulating to the boy. The reindeer carcases were floppy, not frozen, after several hours at -50.

It takes a long time for a large animal, that has a winter coat, to freeze. I knew a fellow hunter in BC who shot a moose just to survive a bitterly cold night (-42 F) when his matches had gotten wet. He gutted the moose, removed the entrails and crawled inside the moose to retain the remaining heat from the moose's dead body. A moose hide is very thick and the hollow hair acts as an excellent insulator. The next morning he was able to snowshoe out the 15 miles to his vehicle.

I've heard of that being done. One of the Star Wars episodes has a scene akin to that, too.

This is why I think the coyote was placed for the photo. As well as the indentation in the snow infront of it's paw.

But we'll never know.

Now this is some snow:

A train from Harbin to Baotou ran into snow more than 2 m high near Jining in Inner Mongolia on Sunday and passengers were evacuated only yesterday.

All 15 carriages were buried in snow and more than 1,400 passengers were stranded in the train without lighting and heating. Food and drinking water were also in shortage, the local railway bureau said.

"The snow was so high because this area is at a lower elevation. It piled up quickly, and huge gales continued to blow more snow in," Zhang Jianwen, an armed police officer from Ulanqab League who led the rescue work, told China Daily.

"Though snow stopped yesterday, the temperature was -28 C, freezing the doors," he said.

Armed police managed to pry open one door, and with the help of the local railway bureau, evacuated the 1,400 passengers to a nearby railway station yesterday.

WOW!!!!! That's cold. What an ordeal!!!

and THAT is why Id rather live in a warm country

I was in Harbin in December/January about 20 years ago and I didn't think that it could ever get that cold (bein' a surfer boy from SoCal what did I know?)...

I returned in May of the following year and the weather was nice; a promenade along the river front in my bizniz suit with local gurlz on each arm, etc...hard to believe that it wuz the same place...

It's below 10F here and there is a fresh blanket of 5 inches of snow and my sister-in-law in Bangkok is complaining to us that it is getting hot there...................

It's below 10F here and there is a fresh blanket of 5 inches of snow and my sister-in-law in Bangkok is complaining to us that it is getting hot there...................

You're in the UK? I just saw the news on TV....I might have a day off work since I am dependant on Heathrow remaining open.

they cancelled the footie match last night due to heavy snow in London!

Yay, indeed there will be no freight arriving today as LHR was snowed in.

Meanwhile I have to water the lawn every day as it is turning brown.

You got water restrictions in NZ Harcourt?

I'm in Adelaide at the moment and the penalty for watering your lawn is something like flogging and branding.

Something I have noticed as a former garden centre owner is that these establishments have virtually disappeared. Apart from the "super hardware shops" I think there's one family type business selling plants and garden products left on this side of the city.

We don't have water restrictions that I can remember....not enforced ones. I remember a drought years ago and the council started a campaign to get people to fix leaky taps. "Drips waste water" was the slogan.

My folks started a plant shop in Sydney...they did quite well but then we moved to Fiji. They sold it and I believe it is still going.

It's below 10F here and there is a fresh blanket of 5 inches of snow and my sister-in-law in Bangkok is complaining to us that it is getting hot there...................

You're in the UK? I just saw the news on TV....I might have a day off work since I am dependant on Heathrow remaining open.

No, I am in middle America.

Couldn't tolerate Chicago winters. Moved to South Texas, then to Nicaragua.

I'm in Adelaide at the moment and the penalty for watering your lawn is something like flogging and branding.

call me we've got rain!

yes a big DOWNPOUR of rain this morning, I was gonna get up and do a nudie run around the yard, but didnt want to risk the acid rain on my privates

We had half an inch on Tuesday. Settled the dust nicely.

We had half an inch on Tuesday. Settled the dust nicely.

Were you referring to Neverdie's nudie run?