Obama and Britain

Please, try to stay polite and non-bashing against either Obama or Britain or the Americans and the Brits; I just want to go to the origin(s) -if any- why he's so "cool" towards the UK.

The whole drama with the BP Oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico escalated the already cool feelings from Obama towards the Brits...and the UK as a whole.

What happened...what caused it? And I mean the period BEFORE the BP drama in the Gulf of Mexico.

Some say it's because the Brits caused problems to one of his forefathers...I don't know; I honestly don't, but there must be a few amongst you who do and please, explain and why it is such a point for Obama.

The US and the UK were partners for a long long time but the "love" affair seems to be in ice-cold weather.

LaoPo

I think it actually has nothing to do with what you think & everything to do with the elections coming up in November.

As for before the gulf he always has tried to show it is not the old boy network. As such he tries to appear cool to old allies & friendly to old foes

Not to bash Obama but he is just another talking puppet in a long line of talking puppets

I think it actually has nothing to do with what you think & everything to do with the elections coming up in November.

As for before the gulf he always has tried to show it is not the old boy network. As such he tries to appear cool to old allies & friendly to old foes

Not to bash Obama but he is just another talking puppet in a long line of talking puppets

for a year i gave him the benefit of doubt. today i fully agree with you.

Obama..? you mean Barry Soetoro ?

the new & latest marionette for the Commitee of 300 ? (members include the European Royal Families, including Elizabeth II)

No, US / UK relations are (& always will be) fine & the oil 'spill' barely registers on any allie-ometer.. just a glitch that the 'machine' of US government has to be seen via the corporate owned mainstream media to be angry about - it makes the little people feel better to see their 'leader' demonize the nasty man that kicked us..

seriously... i'd be more worried that the US just sent a fleet of warships including the nuclear powered carrier USS Truman together with Israeli gunships through the Suez Canal & on into the Red sea...

Are they getting their gear in place for the inevitable war with Iran ? This is 'news' you won't see in the mainstream media (see that story .here. ) but it surely happened this weekend...

when that war kicks off, rest assured good 'ol blighty will once again stand 'head & shoulders' with uncle sam.. (i'm sorry to say )

It is

1: Just plain incompetence in dealing with the matter and a demonstration of his ignorance towards the international community. Basically just stupidity.

Or

2: A deliberate attempt to stir up nationalistic sentiment with his vote count in mind.

I don't know why the oil spill should have anything to do with this feeling. BP is no longer British petroleum and has not been for many years. The US share holders own up to 40% of the company and the rig was built , installed by and run by Americans. Why should this be the fault of the British?

I go for the vote count option.

Cheers, Rick

I read his autobiography "Dreams from my Father" (written in 1995 on a year's sabbatical from editing the Harvard Law Review) a couple of months ago. I don't recollect any anti-British sentiment in it, though his father came from a British colony (Kenya). He has relatives in England and is said to be a West Ham supporter.

Obama is not anti-British. The US people are not anti-British. We aren't pro British so much either. Basically, we care mostly about our own people. Deal with it. Is that much different than other countries? Much ado about very little. The oil spill is a big problem, but this Anglo spat is less than trivial.

Obama is not anti-British. The US people are not anti-British. We aren't pro British so much either. Basically, we care mostly about our own people. Deal with it. Is that much different than other countries? Much ado about very little. The oil spill is a big problem, but this Anglo spat is less than trivial.

So he is just plain incompetent then?

Obama is not anti-British. The US people are not anti-British. We aren't pro British so much either. Basically, we care mostly about our own people. Deal with it. Is that much different than other countries? Much ado about very little. The oil spill is a big problem, but this Anglo spat is less than trivial.

So he is just plain incompetent then?

Nobody is calling him Saint Obama anymore. Still compared to the republicans on offer, I still think a good bet for two terms.

Personally, I don't think that he is being deliberately anti-British. I suspect that he has just made a right mess in the handling of the matter, I am led to believe this because he seems to have made little to no effort in helping to get the matter fixed first and play the blame game later. Surely the most important thing to do is to fix it, even a US president should be able to figure that one out.

Also, I suspect that the blame does not fall entirely with BP on this and that he could be setting himself up for a potentially humiliating track back. But then being one of the few TV members who is NOT an expert on absolutely everything, I may be wrong.

He's playing to the crowd. He gets more like Blair every day.

At least he doesn't have to live up to Miracle Man expectations anymore. In the long term, I think this is good. Not smart to think great leaders are going to solve all your problems.

Personally, I don't think that he is being deliberately anti-British. I suspect that he has just made a right mess in the handling of the matter, I am led to believe this because he seems to have made little to no effort in helping to get the matter fixed first and play the blame game later. Surely the most important thing to do is to fix it, even a US president should be able to figure that one out.

Also, I suspect that the blame does not fall entirely with BP on this and that he could be setting himself up for a potentially humiliating track back. But then being one of the few TV members who is NOT an expert on absolutely everything, I may be wrong.

I think that this is a fair assessment of the situation he could be digging a hole for himself. Maybe you know more than you think

Cheers, Rick

Personally, I don't think that he is being deliberately anti-British. I suspect that he has just made a right mess in the handling of the matter, I am led to believe this because he seems to have made little to no effort in helping to get the matter fixed first and play the blame game later. Surely the most important thing to do is to fix it, even a US president should be able to figure that one out.

Also, I suspect that the blame does not fall entirely with BP on this and that he could be setting himself up for a potentially humiliating track back. But then being one of the few TV members who is NOT an expert on absolutely everything, I may be wrong.

What are you an expert on so I can defer to your wisdom in those areas?

Personally, I don't think that he is being deliberately anti-British. I suspect that he has just made a right mess in the handling of the matter, I am led to believe this because he seems to have made little to no effort in helping to get the matter fixed first and play the blame game later. Surely the most important thing to do is to fix it, even a US president should be able to figure that one out.

Also, I suspect that the blame does not fall entirely with BP on this and that he could be setting himself up for a potentially humiliating track back. But then being one of the few TV members who is NOT an expert on absolutely everything, I may be wrong.

What are you an expert on so I can defer to your wisdom in those areas?

Ex-SAS. I can kill a man with merely a stare.

Personally, I don't think that he is being deliberately anti-British. I suspect that he has just made a right mess in the handling of the matter, I am led to believe this because he seems to have made little to no effort in helping to get the matter fixed first and play the blame game later. Surely the most important thing to do is to fix it, even a US president should be able to figure that one out.

Also, I suspect that the blame does not fall entirely with BP on this and that he could be setting himself up for a potentially humiliating track back. But then being one of the few TV members who is NOT an expert on absolutely everything, I may be wrong.

What are you an expert on so I can defer to your wisdom in those areas?

Ex-SAS. I can kill a man with merely a stare.

Pilot or cabin crew?

Obama does not like the Brits because they are capitalist warmongers and close allies of the Great Satan. He much prefers Iran and Syria as they are just misunderstood Muslims, but underneath it all, really swell guys. 

One of the major problems is with the extradition treaty which for some reason was signed by Blunkett.

There is some background here, I wonder why this happened :

3. Extradition to the United States | The Freedom Bill