Yes good idea WarpSpeed since the Secretary of State of Hawaii,showed a a certified copy (ie the only one that comes out of there anyway so don't' go on about why don't we get to see the real one, have you ever seen your real one?) time to come up with something that requires a few more brains, I think.

A certified copy is just a modern form with basic info filled in (and in this case filled in by another Democrat).

I have my original birth certificate in a box someplace and a scanned copy on my computer.

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim. He - or his handlers - didn't want to take the chance that it might cost him the election. Personally I don't think it would have though.

Yes good idea WarpSpeed since the Secretary of State of Hawaii,showed a a certified copy (ie the only one that comes out of there anyway so don't' go on about why don't we get to see the real one, have you ever seen your real one?) time to come up with something that requires a few more brains, I think.

A certified copy is just a modern form with basic info filled in (and in this case filled in by another Democrat).

I have my original birth certificate in a box someplace and a scanned copy on my computer.

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim. He - or his handlers - didn't want to take the chance that it might cost him the election. Personally I don't think it would have though.

How can a newborn baby be capable of understanding any religion?

Have any credible links for that info.? I'd be interested in seeing it? I also reject and despise any such disparaging labels such as "birther" just because I want credible, factual and undeniable information on the truth which no one has provided to date, do so here and I'll leave it where it lies, if not I'm still not convinced and continue to be skeptical which is my right no one can deny me....I'm not pitching anything now or have I ever I just have the RIGHT to know as a CITIZEN of the United States! And not just by your exclusive claims or anyone elses for that matter....

Yes I Do:

Birth Certificate: Official Letter from Hawaii Department of Health verifing that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures. Official Letter From State of Hawaii

Passport: : Bush Administration Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice went as far as to call Obama to appologize for her office's breech of security in allowing unauthorized contractors to view Obama's passport, admitting that it does indeed exist. Passport link

College Degrees:

1.)Columbia University (Ivy League School ranked 9th in the nation) Columbia University

2.) Harvard Law School: (ranked best in the world) Harvard Law School

Now that you have credible, factual and undeniable information on the truth I assume it's OK to classify you as a "birther". Whose next on your hate list?

Yes good idea WarpSpeed since the Secretary of State of Hawaii,showed a a certified copy (ie the only one that comes out of there anyway so don't' go on about why don't we get to see the real one, have you ever seen your real one?) time to come up with something that requires a few more brains, I think.

A certified copy is just a modern form with basic info filled in (and in this case filled in by another Democrat).

I have my original birth certificate in a box someplace and a scanned copy on my computer.

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim. He - or his handlers - didn't want to take the chance that it might cost him the election. Personally I don't think it would have though.

How can a newborn baby be capable of understanding any religion?

What does a newborn baby know about what country they are born in?

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim.

Is that true? That US birth certificates show the religion of the child and its parents?

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim.

Is that true? That US birth certificates show the religion of the child and its parents?

Back in 1961, who knows? According to this Hawaii b.c. they don't ask. Although I'm not sure how old this one is, my opinion has changed. I still don't understand why he has made such a big mystery of it.

College Degrees:

1.)Columbia University (Ivy League School ranked 9th in the nation) Columbia University

2.) Harvard Law School: (ranked best in the world) Harvard Law School

I don't think anyone questioned whether or not he graduated. I thought he has kept his Columbia thesis secret along with his transcript?

Blimey! On my birth certificate there's Mother's name, Father's name, my name, date of birth, place of birth. That's it.

 How about Paul McCartney is Dead

Ignoring the millions to be made in merchandise if this were true, record labels and publicists have covered-up the fact that ex-Beatle Paul McCartney is actually dead. He died in 1966 in a car-crash and was replaced by a convenient look-alike and sound-alike (apparently, these are surprisingly easy to come by).

It is all true and the look-alike and sound-alike "McCartney" wrote even better music than the original if you compare great songs like "A Day in the Life" with weak efforts like 'Love Me Do". 

The Australian King of England seems like a nice down to earth bloke.

I am.

Yes good idea WarpSpeed since the Secretary of State of Hawaii,showed a a certified copy (ie the only one that comes out of there anyway so don't' go on about why don't we get to see the real one, have you ever seen your real one?) time to come up with something that requires a few more brains, I think. How about Paul McCartney is Dead

Ignoring the millions to be made in merchandise if this were true, record labels and publicists have covered-up the fact that ex-Beatle Paul McCartney is actually dead. He died in 1966 in a car-crash and was replaced by a convenient look-alike and sound-alike (apparently, these are surprisingly easy to come by).

sbk:

Are you stepping in as an official moderator and telling us we cannot discuss a possible conspiracy on a thread devoted to conspiracy theories?

If your post is simply as another member, then let me add the Hawaii legislature recently passed a law telling the Secretary of State of Hawaii he no longer has to respond to FOIA requests.

What we know about Obama is exactly what his handlers want us to know. Nothing more or less. Entirely too many questions surround this guy.

I apologize if my post doesn't reflect a satisfactory wattage of brain usage.

It is so ironic that some of you guys are passing on something which is unproven as fact on a thread about conspiracy theories. Even official documentation has been rubbished and so basically it doesn't matter what proof is presented, it will only deepen your own conspiracy. The only evidence that you have is basically just what some people have said. Let me give you the only known FACT about Obama......

He is Anunaki and the planet Nibiru is current;y approaching Earth to collect him and the rest of the Luminati, including the mystical Thai elite.. That's why he is making the chemtrails in the sky, so we can't see the planet Nibiru approaching.

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim.

Is that true? That US birth certificates show the religion of the child and its parents?

Back in 1961, who knows? According to this Hawaii b.c. they don't ask. Although I'm not sure how old this one is, my opinion has changed. I still don't understand why he has made such a big mystery of it.

i dont think he did, i think there were a couple of websites dismissing the claims as false but the media/conspiracy theorists probably ignored it

eg

The Australian King of England seems like a nice down to earth bloke.

most people from down under are nice

No sorry, I am just rubbishing a stupid conspiracy theory that ignores facts. But isn't that the basis of most stupid conspiracy theories? Facts are so inconvenient.

Top Ten Conspiracy Theories

http://listverse.com/2007/08/21/top-10-conspiracy-theories/

1. 9/11 was Planned by the US Government

2. UFO Recovered at Roswell

3. John F. Kennedy’s Assasination

4. Global Warming is a Fraud (this must be an old website)

5. Princess Diana was Murdered by the Royal Family

6. Jewish World Domination

7. Apollo Moon Landing Hoax

8. Pearl Harbor Was Allowed to Happen

9. The Third Secret of Fatima (I've never heard of this one)

10. The Philadelphia Experiment

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim.

Is that true? That US birth certificates show the religion of the child and its parents?

No.

IMO the REAL reason Obama hasn't shown his original birth certificate is that it shows his religion the same as his father's - Muslim.

Is that true? That US birth certificates show the religion of the child and its parents?

No.

The answer isn't as simple as that. I'm sure not all birth certificates are uniform across the 50 states and in Obama's case we are talking about almost 50 years ago. There's a lot about society that was different back then. So a simple "no" is just a guess. That said, the old Hawaiian bc I posted a pic of doesn't have it so in Obama's specific case, it appears clear that religion shown on the bc.

Has anyone mentioned the Da Vinci code yet?

Wasn't only Obama that heard footsteps.

On January 27, 1998, Hillary Clinton appeared on NBC's The Today Show, in an interview with Matt Lauer.

Matt Lauer: "You have said, I understand, to some close friends, that this is the last great battle, and that one side or the other is going down here."

Hillary Clinton: "Well, I don't know if I've been that dramatic. That would sound like a good line from a movie. But I do believe that this is a battle. I mean, look at the very people who are involved in this — they have popped up in other settings. This is — the great story here for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president."

The vast right-wing conspiracy seems to have lost steam if they are messing around with voting machines to get Alvin Greene elected. 

Here's one just for you....

Enjoy.

Secret Ethnicity

As previously stated, the Johnson administration implemented a dramatic shift in US-Middle East policy. Every president after Johnson has totally capitulated to Israel and ignored the plight of Palestinians. But Johnson marked the turning point. The reason he was so loyal to Israel lies within his own ethnicity. It appears that he and his wife were secretly Jewish.

Opium Lords

Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the Kennedy Assassination

by Salvador Astucia

http://radioislam.org/jfk/astucia/09.htm

Three secrets of Fatima for Koheesti

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Secrets_of_F%C3%A1tima

So, it was revealed in 2000. Must be an old website then. Or perhaps the conspiracy is that the secret revealed was not really the secret. But then its visions from Our Lady of Fatima, so there you go.

Here's one just for you....

Enjoy.

Secret Ethnicity

As previously stated, the Johnson administration implemented a dramatic shift in US-Middle East policy. Every president after Johnson has totally capitulated to Israel and ignored the plight of Palestinians. But Johnson marked the turning point. The reason he was so loyal to Israel lies within his own ethnicity. It appears that he and his wife were secretly Jewish.

Opium Lords

Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the Kennedy Assassination

by Salvador Astucia

http://radioislam.or.../astucia/09.htm

That great Irish-American Senator from Massachusetts, John Kerry, was also "secretly" Jewish. It turns out his father chose "Kerry" by pointing at a map and hitting on Kerry County in Ireland.

Obama is also secretly Jewish. His great grandfather was a Kapo in Auschwitz.

Obama is also secretly Jewish. His great grandfather was a Kapo in Auschwitz.

Ha, I knew I heard his heels click when he was grovelling before the Emperor.

Regards.

edit: Maybe it was his teeth clacking together as his chin hit the floor.....It was hard to tell.

It's a conspiracy, but very little theory about it. It's plain to see.

One World, One Love, One Government. Black, White, Yellow and Brown living together on the same planet.. controlled by the smartest men in dark suits!

Just like in Star Wars!! Whoopie! When do we get light sabres?

July 2, 2010 United Nations Wants US Dollar Replaced, Control all Currency through IMF SDR's

A United Nations report today called for the removal of the U.S. dollar as the global reserve currency, to be replaced by special drawing rights (SDRs) from the International Monetary Fund.

It called for “abandoning the U.S. dollar as the main global reserve currency, saying it has been unable to safeguard value.

“A new global reserve system could be created, one that no longer relies on the United States dollar as the single major reserve currency,” the report added.

The conclusion of the United Nations was the new currency system shouldn't be based upon a basket of currencies, but SDR's which would be controlled by the IMF.

This ones a bummer for the apollo moon landing hoax nutters:

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archives/454-Skimming-the-Moon.html

They are using a fake camera to take the pictures.