Nissan Navara 2010

[moo9]

Does anybody has a scanned English version available? I am waiting for mine from Nissan, but never knows how long it will take to arrive!

Tnx and Cheers

Moo9

[Michigan]

If you do find one let me know, I am looking for one myself.

Also, did you request a manual thru your local dealer ?

[sometime]

If you do find one let me know, I am looking for one myself.

Also, did you request a manual thru your local dealer ?

When I bought my Navara from the dealer in Pattaya I asked the them for a hand book in English, i was quite surprised when he opened the cupboard there must have been 30 English handbooks.

[Michigan]

If you do find one let me know, I am looking for one myself.

Also, did you request a manual thru your local dealer ?

When I bought my Navara from the dealer in Pattaya I asked the them for a hand book in English, i was quite surprised when he opened the cupboard there must have been 30 English handbooks.

I figure there is only 1 Nissan dealer in Pattaya ?

Someone posted a remark on the forum a while back that he had to get his Navara from Rayong; no stock in Pattaya ?

Lots of manuals, but no cars......?

[moo9]

The Dealer in Pattaya promised me to get me one, usually they are reliable, but no idea how long it will take!

[phutoie2]

Nissan hand book, for sure don't leave home without it .

This is for you birdbrain!

TOYOTA RECALLS: STORY SO FAR Oct 2009 - 3.8 million vehicles are recalled in the US following floor mat problems. More recalls follow in the next few months, over various safety concerns, totalling 8.5 million worldwide by Feb 2010 5 Feb - Toyota president Akio Toyoda apologises for the recalls and pledges to target quality control. However, he is criticised for not bowing deeply enough 9 Feb - Mr Toyoda publicly apologises again and this time is seen to get the bow right 18 Feb - Mr Toyoda announces that he will face questioning in Congress, having previously said that he would not, after being formally asked to do so 23 Feb - the congressional hearings begin, with Toyota's head of US operations, James Lentz, among the first to be grilled.

[sometime]

If you do find one let me know, I am looking for one myself.

Also, did you request a manual thru your local dealer ?

When I bought my Navara from the dealer in Pattaya I asked the them for a hand book in English, i was quite surprised when he opened the cupboard there must have been 30 English handbooks.

I figure there is only 1 Nissan dealer in Pattaya ?

Someone posted a remark on the forum a while back that he had to get his Navara from Rayong; no stock in Pattaya ?

Lots of manuals, but no cars......?

You are correct no stock but they will have what you want in 2 days. I have been to Toyota and they don't carry stock like they used to.

[moo9]

Now having owned and driven both, the Vigo and the Navara, I have to say that I like the Navara much more. I don't know why everybody is heading for Toyota / Isuzu. Certainly their resell value might be better, but I don't plan to drive my car for only 1 or 2 yrs, so it does not really matter. I got a 6 speed manual and it's fun riding it!

Cheers

[MoonRiverOasis]

I don't know why everybody is heading for Toyota / Isuzu. Certainly their resell value might be better, but I don't plan to drive my car for only 1 or 2 yrs, so it does not really matter.

Actually, that's not true..

I can't publish any actual data (due to copyright reasons) but I suppose I can give some summary info..

Simple Cost of Ownership (i.e. purchase price - used price) for Thai pickups at n years of age

Note that I have left out the Colorado and the Ranger as they are always daylight last place along with the BT-50..

Listed in order of lowest cost-of-ownership (best) to highest (worst).

Tier 1: 2.5L Extra cab, mid-spec

1 year: Navara, D-Max, Hilux, Triton, BT-50

2 years: Navara, Hilux, Triton, D-Max, BT-50

3 years: Navara, Triton, Hilux, D-Max, BT-50

Tier 2: 2.5L Double Cab "high style" w/ABS

1 year: Hilux, D-Max, Navara, Triton, BT-50

2 years: Navara, Triton, Hilux, D-Max, BT-50

3 years: Navara, Hilux, Triton, D-Max, BT50

Tier 3: 3.xL Double Cab, top model

1 year: Hilux, D-Max, Navara, Triton, BT-50

2 years: Navara, D-Max, Hilux, Triton, BT-50

3 years: Navara, Triton, D-Max, Hilux, BT-50

Some observations:

At 2+ years, Navara is consistently the cheapest pickup to own.

At 2+ years, the TCO difference between Navara, Hilux, D-Max and Triton is typically less than 20,000 Baht.

At 3+ years a BT-50, Colorado or Ranger will have cost you 70-160K Baht more to own than a Navara (depending on model level).

[moo9]

People use to tell the fairy tales that the resell value of a Navara is lower than a Vigo or a D-Max may be only because the other ones have a hight market share.

I think they overall built quality of the Nissan's is higher.

[katabeachbum]

People use to tell the fairy tales that the resell value of a Navara is lower than a Vigo or a D-Max may be only because the other ones have a hight market share.

I think they overall built quality of the Nissan's is higher.

I like the Navara and before Vigo was upgraded on brakes and some other stuff late 2008, it would have been my first choise top of the line pickup in 2008. But build quality on interior fit is far below Mitsu, Izu and Toyota, and now Vigo is the winner again

In addition its all the Nissan-squeesy noises from suspension

[Michigan]

Now having owned and driven both, the Vigo and the Navara, I have to say that I like the Navara much more. I don't know why everybody is heading for Toyota / Isuzu. Certainly their resell value might be better, but I don't plan to drive my car for only 1 or 2 yrs, so it does not really matter. I got a 6 speed manual and it's fun riding it!

Cheers

I tried to sit in all of the pickups and in only the Navara I could get in without my leg hitting the steering wheel; I am 6'2" and I was determined to buy a Toyota since I owned a Camry for 17 years without any major problems.

I bought the Navara 4x4 instead and I am very happy with it.

About 10.5 km per liter in fuel consumption and I hope that will get better after a while.

I found an English Navara PDF file which lists all the specs, not sure if the English manual would be any better.

If anybody is interested let me know then I will post it on my server

Nissan-navara-manual.PDF

[moo9]

Now having owned and driven both, the Vigo and the Navara, I have to say that I like the Navara much more. I don't know why everybody is heading for Toyota / Isuzu. Certainly their resell value might be better, but I don't plan to drive my car for only 1 or 2 yrs, so it does not really matter. I got a 6 speed manual and it's fun riding it!

Cheers

I tried to sit in all of the pickups and in only the Navara I could get in without my leg hitting the steering wheel; I am 6'2" and I was determined to buy a Toyota since I owned a Camry for 17 years without any major problems.

I bought the Navara 4x4 instead and I am very happy with it.

About 10.5 km per liter in fuel consumption and I hope that will get better after a while.

I found an English Navara PDF file which lists all the specs, not sure if the English manual would be any better.

If anybody is interested let me know then I will post it on my server

Nissan-navara-manual.PDF

Thanks! I had the same seating issues in the Vigo and even the Camry (I am 6'3").

[moo9]

Now having owned and driven both, the Vigo and the Navara, I have to say that I like the Navara much more. I don't know why everybody is heading for Toyota / Isuzu. Certainly their resell value might be better, but I don't plan to drive my car for only 1 or 2 yrs, so it does not really matter. I got a 6 speed manual and it's fun riding it!

Cheers

I tried to sit in all of the pickups and in only the Navara I could get in without my leg hitting the steering wheel; I am 6'2" and I was determined to buy a Toyota since I owned a Camry for 17 years without any major problems.

I bought the Navara 4x4 instead and I am very happy with it.

About 10.5 km per liter in fuel consumption and I hope that will get better after a while.

I found an English Navara PDF file which lists all the specs, not sure if the English manual would be any better.

If anybody is interested let me know then I will post it on my server

Nissan-navara-manual.PDF

By the way the PDF seems to be a sales brochure,not the real manual!

[phutoie2]

Sunday morning, good to read that the motoring boys (or girls??) are up and about.

That PDF is more of an advertising brochure, nice pics though.

Trans , I may have mentioned this several times before:, the main reason I bought my Navara King Cab in 07 was, cheap,cheap, cheap! - 619k for the LE spec.

If only I was a rich Swede!

Agree about the rear access doors, first spotted them on on a Ford Ranger and thought a cool idea, Nissan's version do not appear to be as well designed but in over 3 years now, no shopping/dogs or relatives have fell out, and I have squeezed 5 family on that little bench seat.

I just have a Thai manual and if ever stuck I just ask the service guy at the dealership.

The thing about Nissans is that Somchai motors Incorp know all about them (plus old Isuzu's/Mazda's). Recently at a back street workshop I viewed a Nav stripped right down to chassis, they may have been up to the ol trick of welding two parts together !!? - who knows.

Toyota's & Isuzu's do appear to be better quality and much better spec, again they are more expensive to purchase.

With pickups here it always reminds me of my service days in Germany in the Mess, what was the better car - BMW / Merc or Audi - now that was a good Sunday lunchtime ding dong.

[moo9]

People use to tell the fairy tales that the resell value of a Navara is lower than a Vigo or a D-Max may be only because the other ones have a hight market share.

I think they overall built quality of the Nissan's is higher.

Build quality better on a Nissan.

Have a loooong look in a show room on a new truck (cos its clean and fresh) at how things have been tackled in bodywork etc. Another thread l pointed out how Nissan designed the hinging of rear suicide doors, take a look, you can see the hinges from the outside , then go look at how Toyota did it, and the Toyota design is made to last.

And you are sure that the Toyota ones are not dust, dirt and rust collectors? Hiding the hinges does not mean that they don't exist!

[moo9]

Well then keep riding Toyota and wait for the next global call back

[katabeachbum]

Well then keep riding Toyota and wait for the next global call back

Not long ago Nissan Navara failed Euro NCAP crash test. Airbags to slow, resulting in poor occupant protection. Panic in Nissan camp, and recall of all sold Navara.

Vigo has never had a "global call back".

I admire your love for Nissan Navara, but get real. Every vehicle has some negative sides, you are just unable to see them on Nissan even when pointed out. Instead you spread sh-t about other makes, not supported by any facts

[katabeachbum]

Now l know why the English handbook, wants to know in the event of a crash how his passengers blow up their air bags.

I have already told you guys english is not my first language, but is this what is called a blow job?

[mdechgan]

Trans , I may have mentioned this several times before:, the main reason I bought my Navara King Cab in 07 was, cheap,cheap, cheap! - 619k for the LE spec.

That's a really good price. I bought my new calibre a little over that. I think the 2010 prices must have gone up.

I have officially owned and driven all three brands.

Isusu Rodeo 4x4 3.0, Vigo 4x4 3.0 and now the calibre.

Engine: Best to worst (power)

D4D, Navara, Dmax

Mileage:

Navara (maybe because 2.5 or 6th gear), Dmax, D4D (gas guzzler)

Suspension and ride quality:

Isuzu (smooth and stable), Navara (ok for a pickup), Vigo (I think outright unstable)

Brakes:

Navara, Isuzu (barely adequate), Vigo (dangerous)

Interior:

Vigo, Isuzu, Navara (sucks, ugly and plain)

Utility:

Navara and Vigo are much bigger than the Dmax but the Dmax is much more easier to park and reverse.

Build quality and design:

Isuzu, Vigo, Navara (just not like Isuzu or Vigo) I bought one the first versions of the Vigo but the later models could have been better.

In the end I was so happy to get rid of the Vigo. I hated that car since first bought. Sold it for 450,000. I think it was a very dangerous car to drive unless modifications were made like upgraded brakes and suspension. I added runstop disc brakes to my Dmax but now my father drives it. However I still miss the Dmax and would prefer to drive it over the Navara. The Dmax just feels better when driven but the Navara is more zippy around town. Love the sixth gear.

[katabeachbum]

Trans , I may have mentioned this several times before:, the main reason I bought my Navara King Cab in 07 was, cheap,cheap, cheap! - 619k for the LE spec.

That's a really good price. I bought my new calibre a little over that. I think the 2010 prices must have gone up.

I have officially owned and driven all three brands.

Isusu Rodeo 4x4 3.0, Vigo 4x4 3.0 and now the calibre.

Engine: Best to worst (power)

D4D, Navara, Dmax

Mileage:

Navara (maybe because 2.5 or 6th gear), Dmax, D4D (gas guzzler)

Suspension and ride quality:

Isuzu (smooth and stable), Navara (ok for a pickup), Vigo (I think outright unstable)

Brakes:

Navara, Isuzu (barely adequate), Vigo (dangerous)

Interior:

Vigo, Isuzu, Navara (sucks, ugly and plain)

Utility:

Navara and Vigo are much bigger than the Dmax but the Dmax is much more easier to park and reverse.

Build quality and design:

Isuzu, Vigo, Navara (just not like Isuzu or Vigo) I bought one the first versions of the Vigo but the later models could have been better.

In the end I was so happy to get rid of the Vigo. I hated that car since first bought. Sold it for 450,000. I think it was a very dangerous car to drive unless modifications were made like upgraded brakes and suspension. I added runstop disc brakes to my Dmax but now my father drives it. However I still miss the Dmax and would prefer to drive it over the Navara. The Dmax just feels better when driven but the Navara is more zippy around town. Love the sixth gear.

Comparing an older Vigo with a newish Navara isnt really fair on fuelconsumption and brakes. Vigos 2009/2010 VN diesels have more power and use less fuel. Brakes are presently better than Navara. I dont mention DMax, since there has been no technical upgrade for years

[phutoie2]

Forgot to mention the second best thing about my Navara, its all paid for now!!, finished the SCB leasing loan in June.

A few months back I had a new Kenwood DVD monitor fitted so the wife can now watch her tuneful Isaan music stuff!

The guys who did it put in some better speakers, they must have ripped out all the front dash board and door panels doing it, I was a bit worried seeing this great dump of plastic on the floor.. That Kenwood is a fantastic bit of kit, much better than the standard radio/CD. The TW or 1 BC, (that 's one brain cell as I call her) just loves that remote control thingy.

I tend to keep my trucks a few years so not too worried about depreciation etc, my previous one was the Frontier 2.7, non turbo and racked up some serious mileage, me & her indoors went all over Thailand in that, even down to Phuket one year- Kata beach would you believe.

Personally I preferred the smaller pickup's, more manouverable in town etc, those Navara's have the turning circle akin to the Queen Mary.

[mdechgan]

Pickup trucks in Thailand don't really depreciate after a certain point.

I've seen trucks 4-5 years old with up to 100,000 kms on them still go for 300,000-400,000 baht range.

You will rarely find a Vigo or Dmax under 300,000 unless it was really beat up or incomplete.

Compared to a sedan or compact pickup trucks take twice as long to depreciate.