I used to work with a guy who allowed his two son's no dating until they had finished university/college.

He had been raised as an orphan and spent his teenage years on an isolated farm as a virtual slave after he was "adopted".

They could go out with friends but he said that nothing was going to distract them from what really mattered, a good education.

He used to work seven days a week at basic wage to pay for them and said that while he did that, he made the rules.

He sure did, finally free of his own chains, he put the same chains back on his sons' ankles....how tragic

LaoPo

Sometimes the chains of love bind more securely than ones of steel.

(That copyrighted sceadugenga-ism is for sale if anyone's 1nterested).

I used to work with a guy who allowed his two son's no dating until they had finished university/college.

How's their eyesight?

That's an old wives tale endure, if it was so, all the right wingers that post here would have white sticks and seeing eye dogs.

In the respected financial newspaper The Wall Street Journal, the article....

"Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior"

has not only hit the

#1 Most popular story today but also, this week, this month and also

#1 Most emailed, today, this week, this month

#1 Most viewed, today, this week and this month

http://online.wsj.co...d-business.html

But the same happens also in the European version of TWSJ

and, most popular BLOG posts:

Amy Chua an 'American Mom' in China

After her book excerpt about mothering, published this month in The Wall Street Journal, launched a fiery debate online and elsewhere, Yale law professor and self-proclaimed Tiger Mother Amy Chua took pains to distance herself from the piece's provocative headline ("Why Chinese Mothers are Superior"). We wonder what she makes of the mainland Chinese title of the book from which the excerpt was taken.

Xinhua reports today that a Chinese-language version of Ms. Chua's book, whose English title is "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother," has hit the shelves in Beijing. As Xinhua notes, the cover of the Chinese edition of the book is substantially different from the original, featuring a photo of a smiling Ms. Chua standing against a red, white and blue map of the United States.

The Chinese edition's title translates to "Being a Mom in America," or, as Xinhua rendered it, "Being an American Mum."

Continues here:

http://blogs.wsj.com...2&post_id=12923

Conclusion:

Amy Chua's article/book has shaken a lot of brains, worldwide.

LaoPo

..and from Germany:

The Tiger Mother's Bite

'A Story in Favor of Coercion, Chinese-Style'

Law professor, mother and author Amy Chua's memoir, "Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother," has touched off an angry debate in the United States on parenting styles. In an interview with SPIEGEL, Chua talks about drilling her daughters and threatening to burn their stuffed animals in order to motivate them to learn.

SPIEGEL: Dr. Chua, according to your book, your daughters Sophia and Louisa were never allowed to attend a sleepover, have a friend over to play or choose their own extracurricular activities. Do your daughters hate you?

Chua: I hope not! I required Sophia and Lulu to be fluent in Chinese and in English and to be straight-A students. Sophia knew the alphabet at 18 months. In nursery school, while the other kids were learning to count from one to ten, I taught her addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions and decimals. By the time she was three, she was reading Sartre. Of course, I also wanted my kids to have hobbies and activities -- not just any activities, like crafts, which can lead nowhere, but rather something meaningful and highly difficult with the potential for depth and virtuosity.

continues here:

http://www.spiegel.d...,741547,00.html

LaoPo

control freak

I used to work with a guy who allowed his two son's no dating until they had finished university/college.

He had been raised as an orphan and spent his teenage years on an isolated farm as a virtual slave after he was "adopted".

They could go out with friends but he said that nothing was going to distract them from what really mattered, a good education.

He used to work seven days a week at basic wage to pay for them and said that while he did that, he made the rules.

so how did the sons turn out?

I lost track of him, the people we worked for offered early retirement and at the time his youngest son wanted to move interstate to do a higher degree. (One would have thought that he wouldn't be able to get out school quick enough).

His wife wanted to move as well, I think she was from that particular area, so he took the money and they moved away and no one heard of them again.

Some of the other guys I worked with made a serious effort to keep in contact but he just dropped off the map.

Edit: I'd imagine that normal young men attending college would have been able to get a little without Dad hearing about it anyway.

control freak

Do you think so?

To me it's all about fear and insecurity. The mothers/parents want their children to be safe, to have the best possible life. To them this can only be bought with the money that comes with good jobs.

The benefits are then passed down through the generations.

Is it any different to young boys being trained to knighthood in Medieval times? We're the Japanese Samurai any different?

The child has no choice and it's mentors are in no doubt it's for the child's own good.

control freak

Do you think so?

To me it's all about fear and insecurity. The mothers/parents want their children to be safe, to have the best possible life. To them this can only be bought with the money that comes with good jobs.

The benefits are then passed down through the generations.

Is it any different to young boys being trained to knighthood in Medieval times? We're the Japanese Samurai any different?

The child has no choice and it's mentors are in no doubt it's for the child's own good.

I agree; it has to do with the deep hidden fear for poverty.....poverty they knew and learnt from their parents and grand parents and never want to experience that themselves.

In the west we've been spoiled for a few generations (especially also the so called baby boomers) who never experienced real poverty and are used to a certain degree of comfort and "easy" made money, allowing so much luxury; luxury we don't even realize anymore it's luxury.

LaoPo

control freak

Do you think so?

To me it's all about fear and insecurity. The mothers/parents want their children to be safe, to have the best possible life. To them this can only be bought with the money that comes with good jobs.

The benefits are then passed down through the generations.

Is it any different to young boys being trained to knighthood in Medieval times? We're the Japanese Samurai any different?

The child has no choice and it's mentors are in no doubt it's for the child's own good.

Don't forget about the Castrati in 16th century Italy. For those into music.

Not so much of the 16th century, it wasn't made illegal in Italy until 1861.

I doubt that the children of anyone who "mattered" got the snip though.

Just another example of the abuse of underprivileged kids.