Was it a C I A Honeytrap After All ?

http://www.daddys-sverige.com/3/post/2011/03/was-it-a-cia-honeytrap-after-all.html

LaoPo

Assange told of ASIO snooping

Philip Dorling March 16, 2011

WIKILEAKS founder Julian Assange is believed to have been tipped off more than seven months ago about Australian intelligence scrutiny of his whistleblowing activities.

Senior government ministers yesterday claimed to have no knowledge of co-operation between Australian intelligence agencies and the United States government concerning Assange after WikiLeaks began publishing thousands of secret documents leaked from the US Defence Department.

But sources within Wikileaks have told The Age that an Australian intelligence official privately warned Wikileaks on August 11 last year that Assange was the subject of inquiries by the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation, and that information relating to him and others associated with Wikileaks had been provided to the US in response to requests through intelligence liaison channels.

The Australian intelligence official is also claimed to have specifically warned that Assange could be at risk of ''dirty tricks'' from the US intelligence community, including the possibility of sexual entrapment.

The information is said to have been provided to WikiLeaks by means of a submission through the website's electronic ''drop box'' on the day Assange flew from London to Stockholm to speak on freedom of the press.

More below

http://m.theage.com.au/national/assange-told-of-asio-snooping-20110315-1bvyb.html

LaoPo

Note:

Content with about the same story is all over the press.

Yes, I like it.

I'm not a fan of Julian Assange, but I do think Wikileaks does perform a necessary function.

Provided it is moderated as well as it is at present, it will open up a lot of dark corners.

The Australian intelligence official is also claimed to have specifically warned that Assange could be at risk of ''dirty tricks'' from the US intelligence community, including the possibility of sexual entrapment.

people who think that Assange was not setup in Sweden (look at the timing!) have my sympathy. but i also admire them because i'm sure they believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

GO Wikileaks GO!

The Australian intelligence official is also claimed to have specifically warned that Assange could be at risk of ''dirty tricks'' from the US intelligence community, including the possibility of sexual entrapment.

people who think that Assange was not setup in Sweden (look at the timing!) have my sympathy. but i also admire them because i'm sure they believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

GO Wikileaks GO!

Of course he was framed!

Indeed....If `they` only would have believed the American leaks about the deplorable Nuclear Reactors in Japan, 40 years old......

on the sideline: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8384059/Japan-earthquake-Japan-warned-over-nuclear-plants-WikiLeaks-cables-show.html

LaoPo

Another Conspiracy Theory.

The Australian intelligence official is also claimed to have specifically warned that Assange could be at risk of ''dirty tricks'' from the US intelligence community, including the possibility of sexual entrapment.

people who think that Assange was not setup in Sweden (look at the timing!) have my sympathy. but i also admire them because i'm sure they believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

GO Wikileaks GO!

Funny you say that Naam....those people also believe that the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was legitimate.

Funny what some people believe.......but then, perhaps we should not be so hard on them because they can't help it. There is a gullibility gene you know, scientists call it the God Gene (true story).

In another thread you go on about how everyone is due a trial before being found guilty. Well, he is getting his opportunity.

Funny you say that Naam....those people also believe that the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was legitimate.

i beg to differ Harcourt. yes, they condone these invasions but they don't consider them legitimate. naturally they won't admit that.

people who think that Assange was not setup in Sweden (look at the timing!) have my sympathy. but i also admire them because i'm sure they believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

GO Wikileaks GO!

Reason & Logic are dead ends & have no place to go with the types of folks you mention

It would be easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle then get those sheeple to see.

“A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.”

- Nietzsche

In another thread you go on about how everyone is due a trial before being found guilty. Well, he is getting his opportunity.

Wrong again. On two counts.

1. I never opined that everyone is due a trial....I suggested that a core tenet of democracy is the right to a fair trial.

2. The right to a fair trial is different from a stitch-up trial.

In another thread you go on about how everyone is due a trial before being found guilty. Well, he is getting his opportunity.

Wrong again. On two counts.

1. I never opined that everyone is due a trial....I suggested that a core tenet of democracy is the right to a fair trial.

2. The right to a fair trial is different from a stitch-up trial.

So you think there is no need for a trial because you think the whole thing is a "stitch up"? Do you really think the Swedes would do that just to appease another country? Why would they choose now to start?

In another thread you go on about how everyone is due a trial before being found guilty. Well, he is getting his opportunity.

Wrong again. On two counts.

1. I never opined that everyone is due a trial....I suggested that a core tenet of democracy is the right to a fair trial.

2. The right to a fair trial is different from a stitch-up trial.

So you think there is no need for a trial because you think the whole thing is a "stitch up"? Do you really think the Swedes would do that just to appease another country? Why would they choose now to start?

I think a trial is needed. A fair trial.

I really do think that many countries do all sorts of shady and of-doubtfull-legality things to appease other countries..

I think a trial is needed. A fair trial.

That is just what he will get.

In another thread you go on about how everyone is due a trial before being found guilty. Well, he is getting his opportunity.

Wrong again. On two counts.

1. I never opined that everyone is due a trial....I suggested that a core tenet of democracy is the right to a fair trial.

2. The right to a fair trial is different from a stitch-up trial.

So you think there is no need for a trial because you think the whole thing is a "stitch up"? Do you really think the Swedes would do that just to appease another country? Why would they choose now to start?

I think a trial is needed. A fair trial.

I really do think that many countries do all sorts of shady and of-doubtfull-legality things to appease other countries..

I think Sweden is one of the most non-corrupt countries around and believe JA has a good of a chance to get a fair trial as anywhere.

Assange was in British custody for a long time and much of the world thinks that the Brits are the 51st US state or at least America's lapdog. They could have "appeased" the US better than just sending the guy off to Sweden. So much of the conspiracy theory just doesn't add up.

The rape charges don't sound right either but I don't think the CIA got to those two lefty-ladies and forced them to press charges. JA shouldn't be above all laws on the planet just because he publishes stuff that might embarrass the USA and other governments.

So what if he might be a rapist, right? It seems like a version of "Right ot Wrong, I back anyone who goes after the US and other Western governments".

I think Sweden is one of the most non-corrupt countries around and believe JA has a good of a chance to get a fair trial as anywhere.

Assange was in British custody for a long time and much of the world thinks that the Brits are the 51st US state or at least America's lapdog. They could have "appeased" the US better than just sending the guy off to Sweden. So much of the conspiracy theory just doesn't add up.

The rape charges don't sound right either but I don't think the CIA got to those two lefty-ladies and forced them to press charges. JA shouldn't be above all laws on the planet just because he publishes stuff that might embarrass the USA and other governments.

So what if he might be a rapist, right? It seems like a version of "Right ot Wrong, I back anyone who goes after the US and other Western governments".

What exactly do you think Britain, as lapdog, could have done within public scrutiny and law?

I agree wholeheartedly with you that JA should not be above the law. There is no "back him, right or wrong" about it. I suspect though that he has been set up.

As you also say, the rape charges don't sound right.

There has been some manipulation in the justice system in Sweden. Just look at the history of charges laid, charges dismissed, charges laid again, dropped agin, laid again....there is definitely some skulldugerry going on.

With that background, it is easy to assume that agendas are being persued.

As such, it is prudent to consider that a fair trial may not take place.

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

A tin foil hat website?

Are you trying to make a UGesque statement but don't quite have the boldness?

Oh no! chucky has taken up UG's last resort!

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

Since your reply was directly after mine, and you have been in this session for long enough to have read mine and you don't quote any previous post.... it is reasonable to assume that it is your response to my post.

Why do you suggest I would want a tin foil hat? I am having a decent discussion with koheesti. Please break your pledge again and state openly why you disagree with my words instead of resorting to these silly inuendoes.

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

Very well stated, UG.

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

Very well stated, UG.

LaoPo

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

Very well stated, UG.

LaoPo

That's a very thoughtful post. You must have spent absolutely hours trying to come up with it.

Is there anything else you want to add that isn't ignorant?

LaoPo

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

Very well stated, UG.

A tin foil hat is a piece of headgear made from one or more sheets of aluminum foil or similar material. Alternatively it may be a conventional hat lined with foil. One may wear the hat in the belief that it acts to shield the brain from such influences as electromagnetic fields, or against mind control and/or mind reading; or attempt to limit the transmission of voices directly into the brain.

The concept of wearing a tin foil hat for protection from such threats has become a popular stereotype and term of derision; the phrase serves as a byword for paranoia and persecutory delusions, and is associated with conspiracy theorists.

Please point out the parts of my discourse with koheesti that amount to persecutory delusions or conspiracy theory.

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

Yes you have helped....at least to prove that chucky is not as bold as you to actually post the silly pictures, and you have also helped to emphasise that he actually has nothing to say on the thread topic or the subject I'm discussing with koheesti.

Thanks.

That's a very thoughtful post. You must have spent absolutely hours trying to come up with it.

Thank you.

NO, just a split second; Dire Straits was always a favorite and Brothers in Arms also; you just reminded me of DS and the song when you showed being such a big buddy with your friend UG.

LaoPo

If I might attempt to speak for chuckd (so he won't violate his oath):

I am pretty sure that he thinks that there is no sense dealing with you as almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little do do with convincing anyone of your views.

As far as the tin-foil hat goes, well that is pretty obvious.

I sincerely hope that I have been of help with this matter. :jap:

chucky already violated his oath.

If he sees no sense in dealing with me, then why repond to my post with a link intended to imply something derisory? Who is the troll?

You are both (since you are speaking for chucky also) very wrong, as usual.

"almost every single post is designed to insult or anger someone and has little to do with convincing anyone of your views" is a ridiculous lie.

I don't intend to anger but you get upset if I post "good morning to you". The fact that you two, and a couple of others, get angered over my posts is YOUR problem.

Please point out the parts of my discourse with koheesti that amount to persecutory delusions or conspiracy theory.

I am pretty sure that chuckd was was considering your entire posting history. :jap: