stefan2519 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) I went to my dealer yesterday and picked up the the new Thai brochure. The 2.2 Wildtrak will not get; 18 wheels Dual climate control 8 way power seat + heated 5 inc color monitor Electronic rear view mirror + cam Stability control Hill launch Trailer sway Rollover mitigation Side curtain airbags Front seat side airbags Cooled center console Privacy glass This is all I've got the wife to translate from Thai, there maybe more Edited October 13, 2011 by stefan2519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluestu Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I went to my dealer yesterday and picked up the the new Thai brochure. The 2.2 Wildtrak will not get; 18 wheels Dual climate control 8 way power seat + heated 5 inc color monitor Electronic rear view mirror + cam Stability control Hill launch Trailer sway Rollover mitigation Side curtain airbags Front seat side airbags Cooled center console Privacy glass This is all I've got the wife to translate from Thai, there maybe more Could something have been lost in translation? I've been told ALL Wildtrak models will have 18inch wheels, 5inch monitor, x4 airbags, dual climate control as well as some other Wildtrak only spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluestu Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 But I just read this 'The Double Cab 4x2 H-Rider 2.2L XLT with automatic transmission is available for the pre-launch price of Bt.799,000. ' which implies the XLT price will increase soon after release. Is just the XLT a pre-launch price or all models? Well, the Facebook page you linked to has an image which states these prices are *including* the 1st car buyer rebate.. So based on that, the prices would be: Open Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6MT RWD 699000 + 16,000 Double Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6AT RWD 799000 + 76000 Double Cab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm Wildtrack 6AT RWD 869000 + 81000 There's nothing in the English PR to say that the announced prices were dependant on qualifying for the 1st car buyer rebate, so the prices above are either a marketing gimmick, or it's time to go make a booking Shouldn't there be a - where the + is? I was told it meant that if you bought a Wildtrak 2.2 6AT for 869,000baht you would receive 81000baht rebate 1yr later so it would be 869,000 - 81,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 But I just read this 'The Double Cab 4x2 H-Rider 2.2L XLT with automatic transmission is available for the pre-launch price of Bt.799,000. ' which implies the XLT price will increase soon after release. Is just the XLT a pre-launch price or all models? Well, the Facebook page you linked to has an image which states these prices are *including* the 1st car buyer rebate.. So based on that, the prices would be: Open Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6MT RWD 699000 + 16,000 Double Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6AT RWD 799000 + 76000 Double Cab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm Wildtrack 6AT RWD 869000 + 81000 There's nothing in the English PR to say that the announced prices were dependant on qualifying for the 1st car buyer rebate, so the prices above are either a marketing gimmick, or it's time to go make a booking Shouldn't there be a - where the + is? I was told it meant that if you bought a Wildtrak 2.2 6AT for 869,000baht you would receive 81000baht rebate 1yr later so it would be 869,000 - 81,000. Nope- according to that Thai language marketing piece on the Facebook page you linked to, the Wildtrack 2.2 RWD is 869K after the rebate, i.e. 950K normal price. Like I say, it's either piece of creative marketing (i.e. BS), or it's time to make a booking and hold Ford to their published prices that fail to mention they're dependant on a rebate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 But I just read this 'The Double Cab 4x2 H-Rider 2.2L XLT with automatic transmission is available for the pre-launch price of Bt.799,000. ' which implies the XLT price will increase soon after release. Is just the XLT a pre-launch price or all models? Well, the Facebook page you linked to has an image which states these prices are *including* the 1st car buyer rebate.. So based on that, the prices would be: Open Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6MT RWD 699000 + 16,000 Double Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6AT RWD 799000 + 76000 Double Cab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm Wildtrack 6AT RWD 869000 + 81000 There's nothing in the English PR to say that the announced prices were dependant on qualifying for the 1st car buyer rebate, so the prices above are either a marketing gimmick, or it's time to go make a booking Shouldn't there be a - where the + is? I was told it meant that if you bought a Wildtrak 2.2 6AT for 869,000baht you would receive 81000baht rebate 1yr later so it would be 869,000 - 81,000. Nope- according to that Thai language marketing piece on the Facebook page you linked to, the Wildtrack 2.2 RWD is 869K after the rebate, i.e. 950K normal price. Like I say, it's either piece of creative marketing (i.e. BS), or it's time to make a booking and hold Ford to their published prices that fail to mention they're dependant on a rebate... I was quoted 869,000 with no mention about the rebate being added on, delivery before the end of November (I was told the 19th) but now going over the features that are not going to be on the 2.2 I'm in two minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 But I just read this 'The Double Cab 4x2 H-Rider 2.2L XLT with automatic transmission is available for the pre-launch price of Bt.799,000. ' which implies the XLT price will increase soon after release. Is just the XLT a pre-launch price or all models? Well, the Facebook page you linked to has an image which states these prices are *including* the 1st car buyer rebate.. So based on that, the prices would be: Open Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6MT RWD 699000 + 16,000 Double Cab Hi-Rider 2.2L 150PS/375Nm XLT 6AT RWD 799000 + 76000 Double Cab 2.2L 150PS/375Nm Wildtrack 6AT RWD 869000 + 81000 There's nothing in the English PR to say that the announced prices were dependant on qualifying for the 1st car buyer rebate, so the prices above are either a marketing gimmick, or it's time to go make a booking Shouldn't there be a - where the + is? I was told it meant that if you bought a Wildtrak 2.2 6AT for 869,000baht you would receive 81000baht rebate 1yr later so it would be 869,000 - 81,000. Nope- according to that Thai language marketing piece on the Facebook page you linked to, the Wildtrack 2.2 RWD is 869K after the rebate, i.e. 950K normal price. Like I say, it's either piece of creative marketing (i.e. BS), or it's time to make a booking and hold Ford to their published prices that fail to mention they're dependant on a rebate... Visited Ford Phuket today, and the prices published are for any buyer, qualified firstimers to deduct. and I got a printed brochure with specs including 3,2 in TH, so i need some time to read it and they have already booked a 2,2 wildtrack on my name. but I wont get it, they just want it to sell to someone else, 3,2 in january/february it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 I went to my dealer yesterday and picked up the the new Thai brochure. The 2.2 Wildtrak will not get; 18 wheels Dual climate control 8 way power seat + heated 5 inc color monitor Electronic rear view mirror + cam Stability control Hill launch Trailer sway Rollover mitigation Side curtain airbags Front seat side airbags Cooled center console Privacy glass This is all I've got the wife to translate from Thai, there maybe more Could something have been lost in translation? I've been told ALL Wildtrak models will have 18inch wheels, 5inch monitor, x4 airbags, dual climate control as well as some other Wildtrak only spec. I've tripled checked from what I've been given (The new brochure) and what is posted on Facebook it seems that they are leaving a whole load out of the 2.2 Wildtak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I went to my dealer yesterday and picked up the the new Thai brochure. The 2.2 Wildtrak will not get; 18 wheels Dual climate control 8 way power seat + heated 5 inc color monitor Electronic rear view mirror + cam Stability control Hill launch Trailer sway Rollover mitigation Side curtain airbags Front seat side airbags Cooled center console Privacy glass This is all I've got the wife to translate from Thai, there maybe more Could something have been lost in translation? I've been told ALL Wildtrak models will have 18inch wheels, 5inch monitor, x4 airbags, dual climate control as well as some other Wildtrak only spec. according to brochure, 2,2 wildtrack has 2x srs, limited slip rearend, 17inchers, cruise, and voice. Nothing fancy 3,2 loaded as in OZ, except trailer sway, at least doesnt say so. and heated seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 according to brochure, 2,2 wildtrack has 2x srs, limited slip rearend, 17inchers, cruise, and voice. Nothing fancy 3,2 loaded as in OZ, except trailer sway, at least doesnt say so. and heated seats No way you'd pay an extra 70K for 2.2L Wildtrak over the 2.L XLT then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 according to brochure, 2,2 wildtrack has 2x srs, limited slip rearend, 17inchers, cruise, and voice. Nothing fancy 3,2 loaded as in OZ, except trailer sway, at least doesnt say so. and heated seats No way you'd pay an extra 70K for 2.2L Wildtrak over the 2.L XLT then. XLT comes with 215/70-16 alloy, rainsensor, front fog, 2 x srs, no limited slip, both have no height adjustment of any seat, both rain sensor and auto light and fog lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybluestu Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 according to brochure, 2,2 wildtrack has 2x srs, limited slip rearend, 17inchers, cruise, and voice. Nothing fancy 3,2 loaded as in OZ, except trailer sway, at least doesnt say so. and heated seats No way you'd pay an extra 70K for 2.2L Wildtrak over the 2.L XLT then. XLT comes with 215/70-16 alloy, rainsensor, front fog, 2 x srs, no limited slip, both have no height adjustment of any seat Is that what it says in their brochure? If so they should make sure their website & brochure have the same info as it says this on ford.co.th 'The All-New Ranger Open Cab 4x2 Hi-Rider XLT in manual transmission and Double Cab 4x2 Hi-Rider XLT in automatic transmission come with 17” alloy wheels with 265/65 R17 tyres for dynamic response' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 according to brochure, 2,2 wildtrack has 2x srs, limited slip rearend, 17inchers, cruise, and voice. Nothing fancy 3,2 loaded as in OZ, except trailer sway, at least doesnt say so. and heated seats No way you'd pay an extra 70K for 2.2L Wildtrak over the 2.L XLT then. XLT comes with 215/70-16 alloy, rainsensor, front fog, 2 x srs, no limited slip, both have no height adjustment of any seat Is that what it says in their brochure? If so they should make sure their website & brochure have the same info as it says this on ford.co.th 'The All-New Ranger Open Cab 4x2 Hi-Rider XLT in manual transmission and Double Cab 4x2 Hi-Rider XLT in automatic transmission come with 17" alloy wheels with 265/65 R17 tyres for dynamic response' agreed in addition brochure XLT is pictured with the ugly single pipe stainless roll bar, but not mentioned in spec. wildtrack pictured with the black/charcoal plastic roll bar and ugly roof rails, as mentioned in spec brochure 09/11 my thoughts is they want to go cheap to increase volume until and during Motorshow, and then let the cat out at a price, and dont give a dam_n the 3,2 wildtrack goes over one million first time buyer limit and I just decided on a XLT 2,2 auto 4 door, in white, blue or red depending on what arrives Phuket first, for me initially, for my GF when my 3,2 arrives. Dessicion made, until it changes Correction, XLT 4x4 and hi riders alloy 265/65-17 and side steps, no limited slip Hi riders and I am sure all info will be same/coordinated on launch late October one more funny thing, brochure calls engine PUMA (european ford name?) while picture says durateck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) Puma is what the engineers call it, duratorque is the name the marketing dept. decided would help sell more cars Edited October 14, 2011 by MoonRiverOasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Puma is what the engineers call it, duratorque is the name the marketing dept. decided would help sell more cars it would be more confusing if the public knew most of ford petrol 4 pots are developed by yamaha, 5 pot by Volvo, and small diesels mainly by Italian VM Motori, and the beast, 7,3 V8 diesel is an International Harvester engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 according to brochure, 2,2 wildtrack has 2x srs, limited slip rearend, 17inchers, cruise, and voice. Nothing fancy 3,2 loaded as in OZ, except trailer sway, at least doesnt say so. and heated seats No way you'd pay an extra 70K for 2.2L Wildtrak over the 2.L XLT then. I don't think the extra 70k is justifiable over XLT now! I'm astonished that they can put the Wildtrak name on it, when it's basically a XLT with stickers and "Maybe" leather interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 The specs on the brochure; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan2519 Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Power and torque comparisons for the 3.2; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Power and torque comparisons for the 3.2; Both of these have innacuracies I'm afraid - the first one has incorrect curves for the Chev, the second has the wrong curves for the Triton... The Ranger 3.2 still stomps them all though I'll ask if I'm allowed to post some charts publicly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katabeachbum Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 delivery on 2,2 auto december according to Ford Phuket. an signs of this being different from other dealers? xlt - widltrack I have come to leatherseats, cruise, bluetooth, roll bar(which I may have to take off cause of Ninjas in tray) and roof rail isnt worth 70k baht. Voice control and limited slip is almost worthless for me and december delivery, better to get a proton savvy from now until 3,2 in january Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 delivery on 2,2 auto december according to Ford Phuket. an signs of this being different from other dealers? xlt - widltrack I have come to leatherseats, cruise, bluetooth, roll bar(which I may have to take off cause of Ninjas in tray) and roof rail isnt worth 70k baht. Voice control and limited slip is almost worthless for me and december delivery, better to get a proton savvy from now until 3,2 in january Local dealer told me today "no way 3.2 before march'. Also no Navi, but does have heated seats which are very helpful in this cold climate. Go figure that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Local dealer told me today "no way 3.2 before march'. Also no Navi, but does have heated seats which are very helpful in this cold climate. Go figure that! It appears that Australia is getting first dibs on the 3.2L.. As for no Navi - has anyone been able to confirm whether the TH version Wildtrak gets the 4" or 5" screen? If it comes with the 5", my guess is it has Navi electronics, but they'll be disabled until a business case can be made for licensing and integrating Thai maps.. If it only has the 4", there's definitely no navi upgrade going to be available as it's a monochrome screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Local dealer told me today "no way 3.2 before march'. Also no Navi, but does have heated seats which are very helpful in this cold climate. Go figure that! It appears that Australia is getting first dibs on the 3.2L.. As for no Navi - has anyone been able to confirm whether the TH version Wildtrak gets the 4" or 5" screen? If it comes with the 5", my guess is it has Navi electronics, but they'll be disabled until a business case can be made for licensing and integrating Thai maps.. If it only has the 4", there's definitely no navi upgrade going to be available as it's a monochrome screen. It does have a rear view camera though which suggests a colour screen. I guess they're going to keep us guessing for a little longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandrinstar Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Woodsie, love your heated seat remark. They will no doubt promote them as a Clothes Dryer , or Flood Assist Feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Woodsie, love your heated seat remark. They will no doubt promote them as a Clothes Dryer , or Flood Assist Feature. Yep, There it is plain day in the brochure, listed as a standard feature, 'Heated seat'. Maybe it only has one! About as useful as an ashtray on a motor bike in this climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 But you can always pull a beer from the cooler box under the armrest if the seats get a little too warm:) Even my wife fancies this truck now after I showed her it passing 80 cm flood water:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 But you can always pull a beer from the cooler box under the armrest if the seats get a little too warm:) Even my wife fancies this truck now after I showed her it passing 80 cm flood water:) Mrs MRO is an engineering type, so it was the train pull video she got most excited about.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Woodsie, love your heated seat remark. They will no doubt promote them as a Clothes Dryer , or Flood Assist Feature. Yep, There it is plain as day in the brochure, listed as a standard feature, 'Heated seat'. Maybe it only has one! About as useful as an ashtray on a motor bike in this climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Woodsie, love your heated seat remark. They will no doubt promote them as a Clothes Dryer , or Flood Assist Feature. Yep, There it is plain as day in the brochure, listed as a standard feature, 'Heated seat'. Maybe it only has one! About as useful as an ashtray on a motor bike in this climate. Sorry about that. I clicked on the wrong button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonRiverOasis Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Local dealer told me today "no way 3.2 before march'. Also no Navi, but does have heated seats which are very helpful in this cold climate. Go figure that! It appears that Australia is getting first dibs on the 3.2L.. As for no Navi - has anyone been able to confirm whether the TH version Wildtrak gets the 4" or 5" screen? If it comes with the 5", my guess is it has Navi electronics, but they'll be disabled until a business case can be made for licensing and integrating Thai maps.. If it only has the 4", there's definitely no navi upgrade going to be available as it's a monochrome screen. It does have a rear view camera though which suggests a colour screen. I guess they're going to keep us guessing for a little longer. The screen for the reversing camera is integrated into the rearview mirror on the T6 (would want to hope it's very high res given how small it has to be though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsie888 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Local dealer told me today "no way 3.2 before march'. Also no Navi, but does have heated seats which are very helpful in this cold climate. Go figure that! It appears that Australia is getting first dibs on the 3.2L.. As for no Navi - has anyone been able to confirm whether the TH version Wildtrak gets the 4" or 5" screen? If it comes with the 5", my guess is it has Navi electronics, but they'll be disabled until a business case can be made for licensing and integrating Thai maps.. If it only has the 4", there's definitely no navi upgrade going to be available as it's a monochrome screen. It does have a rear view camera though which suggests a colour screen. I guess they're going to keep us guessing for a little longer. The screen for the reversing camera is integrated into the rearview mirror on the T6 (would want to hope it's very high res given how small it has to be though) I didn't know it was in the mirror and on the basis they're not mentioning it, I guess we now have to assume it will have the small monochrome screen. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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