i for one am thinking this whole event today just doesn't add up at all !

just a few points

1) he was suppose to be killed in a missle strike, then is killed by a sniper in his room ! , he was asked to surrender but didn't, and was shot in the head.

2) his base was 100 metres from the bloody Pakistani version of Sandhurst !!!! , how on earth did the Pakistani not know he was there, or were the ISI protecting him?

3) the images produced of his body by the PAKISTAN goverment news agency have already been certified as a FAKE !

4) they have already disposed of the body? Or have they, if he was ever shot !

5) there is no video of the killing, THE SOLDIERS would have had cameras on there helmets

6) his neigbours were ARMY generals and Paki hi-so's WHO would have known who there neighbour was

7) this comes straight after the birth certificate thing

and as mentioned on another forum

there will be a terrorist attack in the coming week, possibly nuclear, is this a cover up to blame Al Qaeda ???

if anything, and if true, Pakistan have a hell of a lot to answer for, but it just doesn't add up.

please add your comments or opinions.

boater

Please inform us when you have it all figured out.

Boater, I don't understand when you speak of worst?

Might you mean most influential or mysterious?

If that's the case, I believe the bin Laden scenario wouldn't even touch the scores of better known conspiracy theories throughout history.

I've heard from a very reliable source with a large news agency that Osama has been dead nearly one week.

Obama had to kill him to get his birth certificate back.

Good observations, Boater, but let me guess as follows:

1. He wasn't killed in in a missile strike. What I heard is that he was killed in a firefight, and he also fired his own weapon, and someone got a clean shot on him.

2. Good question. Did they or did they not know that he lived there. Someone must have known and talked the the Americans. In fact, the antithesis of a conspiracy theory.

3. I haven't heard yet the the pics published by a Pakistani news agency are fake (please provide a link), but no fake pictures have (apparently) been released by the US government (yet). I am not entirely sure about your point.

4. I haven't heard that they have disposed of the body yet. You seem to have very good sources. If this is in th epublic domain, I am sure you can share some web links with us.

5. I do believe that the soldiers will have had cameras, but I am pretty sure the footage hasn't been released yet. You see, there are several agencies involved, and every single one has to nod off any publication. Personally, I don't think that we will ever see that original footage. Sure enough, that doesn't means that it doesn't exist.

6. The neighbours might have known who their neighbour was, and had reason to keep quiet. Maybe one of them didn't keep quiet, hm. another possibility is that they didn't know who - they just knew somebody important and highly-protected was there. Don't jump to conclusions.

7. I'm not familiar with the "birth certificate thing", unfortunately. Please enlighten me.

Conclusion: Apart from number 7, I don't see grounds for a conspiracy theory. But please keep digging, as I just love conspiracy theories.

4. I haven't heard that they have disposed of the body yet. You seem to have very good sources. If this is in the public domain, I am sure you can share some web links with us.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.burial.at.sea/

I'm not sure that there is any conspiracy, but I think it odd that they disposed of the body so quickly and so irreversably. A terrestrial burial (in a secret location) would leave open the opportunity for exhumation and independant 3rd party DNA tests....that does raise some questions.

I'm not sure that there is any conspiracy, but I think it odd that they disposed of the body so quickly and so irreversably. A terrestrial burial (in a secret location) would leave open the opportunity for exhumation and independant 3rd party DNA tests....that does raise some questions.

The conspiracy was in the claim he was alive all these years

This supposed killing now is just an outright lie to serve what ever purpose

I'm not sure that there is any conspiracy, but I think it odd that they disposed of the body so quickly and so irreversably. A terrestrial burial (in a secret location) would leave open the opportunity for exhumation and independant 3rd party DNA tests....that does raise some questions.

The conspiracy was in the claim he was alive all these years

This supposed killing now is just an outright lie to serve what ever purpose

I realise what the theory is and the burial at sea supports the theory for the reason I have outlined.

Perhaps it's all a media collective effort to discredit koheesti?

I realize what the theory is and the burial at sea supports the theory for the reason I have outlined.

Perhaps it's all a media collective effort to discredit koheesti?

It is an effort all right but....My guess is that it is in support of the big event that will now unfold.

Of course this false flag will be termed a retaliation for this supposed killing of OBL

It will be in hopes of a distraction of the debt bomb due to go off in May when the debt ceiling will once again be reached.

Which if not raised once again threatens government shutdown & possibly worldwide default of the USD.

I don't think it's a conspiracy. The operation was illegal and extrajudicial; without the knowledge of the Pakistani government. It's best to get the job done and get the heck out.

The Saudi government was approached about taking his body, but declined. Not a good idea to leave him in either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Not a good idea to have Martyr's shrine for the 'faithful' to visit. Not a good idea to mess with Islamic religious/burial rights either.

Why would the US want independent confirmation of his DNA? It's not a court case, it's basically an assassination.

If he shows up with a video and audio (they know his voice) showing him holding a recent copy of an dated newspaper, then there is a problem.

I believe it was extraterrestrials that tipped-off the U.S. Govt. to bin Laden's whereabouts. They know everything.

I believe it was extraterrestrials that tipped-off the U.S. Govt. to bin Laden's whereabouts. They know everything.

You're right in a sense....it was actually Google Earth. Just type in "Osama Bin Laden's Hideout and it takes you straight to Abbotabad. . Finally, the CIA worked it out.

I don't think it's a conspiracy. The operation was illegal and extrajudicial; without the knowledge of the Pakistani government. It's best to get the job done and get the heck out.

The Saudi government was approached about taking his body, but declined. Not a good idea to leave him in either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Not a good idea to have Martyr's shrine for the 'faithful' to visit. Not a good idea to mess with Islamic religious/burial rights either.

Why would the US want independent confirmation of his DNA? It's not a court case, it's basically an assassination.

If he shows up with a video and audio (they know his voice) showing him holding a recent copy of an dated newspaper, then there is a problem.

What you say makes sense...except if Bin Laden dies years ago....perhaps even of natural causes.

It is important for US face-saving that they were the ones that got him. It;s important for Obama's popularity that Bin Laden was "got" under his orders.

I don't think it's a conspiracy. The operation was illegal and extrajudicial; without the knowledge of the Pakistani government. It's best to get the job done and get the heck out.

The Saudi government was approached about taking his body, but declined. Not a good idea to leave him in either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Not a good idea to have Martyr's shrine for the 'faithful' to visit. Not a good idea to mess with Islamic religious/burial rights either.

Why would the US want independent confirmation of his DNA? It's not a court case, it's basically an assassination.

If he shows up with a video and audio (they know his voice) showing him holding a recent copy of an dated newspaper, then there is a problem.

What you say makes sense...except if Bin Laden dies years ago....perhaps even of natural causes.

It is important for US face-saving that they were the ones that got him. It;s important for Obama's popularity that Bin Laden was "got" under his orders.

Who else would get him? The Pakistanis? Some lost Kiwi tourist?Seriously, who else is looking for him in Pakistan if not the USA?

I don't think it's a conspiracy. The operation was illegal and extrajudicial; without the knowledge of the Pakistani government. It's best to get the job done and get the heck out.

The Saudi government was approached about taking his body, but declined. Not a good idea to leave him in either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Not a good idea to have Martyr's shrine for the 'faithful' to visit. Not a good idea to mess with Islamic religious/burial rights either.

Why would the US want independent confirmation of his DNA? It's not a court case, it's basically an assassination.

If he shows up with a video and audio (they know his voice) showing him holding a recent copy of an dated newspaper, then there is a problem.

What you say makes sense...except if Bin Laden dies years ago....perhaps even of natural causes.

It is important for US face-saving that they were the ones that got him. It;s important for Obama's popularity that Bin Laden was "got" under his orders.

Who else would get him? The Pakistanis? Some lost Kiwi tourist?Seriously, who else is looking for him in Pakistan if not the USA?

Sheesh! Natural causes!!! As I mentioned. There is no kudos if he died from kydney failure or an earthquake caused something to fall on his head.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

NWO

ET/UFO

Illuminati

Historiography manipulation

....it goes on and on

I believe it was extraterrestrials that tipped-off the U.S. Govt. to bin Laden's whereabouts. They know everything.

Sure. I'm so glad you clarified this.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Wow. I'm so glad we have you in this forum to tell us the real truth.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Wow. I'm so glad we have you in this forum to tell us the real truth.

4. I haven't heard that they have disposed of the body yet. You seem to have very good sources. If this is in the public domain, I am sure you can share some web links with us.

http://www.cnn.com/2....burial.at.sea/

Ah, the news is out. Thanks for the link.

With all the conflicting statements coming out of the White House (he was armed and shooting when he was killed / No he wasn't - he hid behind a woman / No he didn't - and so on) I would like to see an unretouched video of the event. But that is most unlikely.

This now seems more like the execution without trial of an unproven victim.

I am now waiting for the Pakistani government to issue a statement along the lines of

Yes, this was a government safe house. Yes we were detaining a man there and had guards on the premises. No, the man was not ObL - it was another Al Qaeda operative who had been giving us valuable information. He was younger than ObL - as can be seen from the photos issued by the US government. We were about to share all his debrief with the Americans, but now they have invaded our territory and assassinated our witness, we cannot verify his statements. The Americans have not killed ObL.

And how will the Americans disprove such statements? By producing the DNA of ObL's dead sister and saying it is a match to this sample? Where did this sample come from? By showing the photos? They show a man with a dark beard. ObL's beard is totally grey now. He's getting old, living in the mountains of Waziristan.

It's all a gigantic cock-up, put out to secure Obama bin Lyin' the Presidency for the next four years.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Wow. I'm so glad we have you in this forum to tell us the real truth.

Let's pretend for a minute that it was Osama bin Laden and they did take him alive. What would al Qaeda and their various off shoots around the world do to get him released? Write letters to Obama asking to get him out? Raise money for his legal defense fund?

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Although you have a very reasonable theory, it implies that the US government is blatantly, baldfacedly lying through their teeth.

That is a preposterous suggestion!!!!!! They would never lie to the general public ......Would they?

I have it on reliable authority, BO has already ordered the attack on Donald Trump's mansion.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Although you have a very reasonable theory, it implies that the US government is blatantly, baldfacedly lying through their teeth.

That is a preposterous suggestion!!!!!! They would never lie to the general public ......Would they?

I sure hope they would when the situation calls for it. I am not one of those people who feels "I pay taxes! I demand to know everything my goverment is doing!!". I'm also not that guy at a sporting event who is screaming abuses at a player because "I paid my for my ticket! It's my right to tell him he's playing like crap!!"

Some people feel al Qaeda might retaliate for killing Osama. I'm sure they would do just as bad if not worse to have him released from custody if he had been captured.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Although you have a very reasonable theory, it implies that the US government is blatantly, baldfacedly lying through their teeth.

That is a preposterous suggestion!!!!!! They would never lie to the general public ......Would they?

I sure hope they would when the situation calls for it. I am not one of those people who feels "I pay taxes! I demand to know everything my goverment is doing!!". I'm also not that guy at a sporting event who is screaming abuses at a player because "I paid my for my ticket! It's my right to tell him he's playing like crap!!"

Some people feel al Qaeda might retaliate for killing Osama. I'm sure they would do just as bad if not worse to have him released from custody if he had been captured.

i really can not say he is dead or alive but as you state he is a valuable asset and the elite troops such as the seals are very good about not pulling the trigger in favor of capture.

He isn't dead. They captured him alive. The whole schtick about giving him a good muslim burial at sea is the clue because it is so ridiculous and of course convenient because there is no body. They can't say he has been taken alive it would cause too many problems. Look at all the crap that went on with KSM ( where to hold a trial, water-boarding, etc) and he was only #3 in the organization. Osama is just too valuable not to take alive.

Although you have a very reasonable theory, it implies that the US government is blatantly, baldfacedly lying through their teeth.

That is a preposterous suggestion!!!!!! They would never lie to the general public ......Would they?

I sure hope they would when the situation calls for it. I am not one of those people who feels "I pay taxes! I demand to know everything my goverment is doing!!". I'm also not that guy at a sporting event who is screaming abuses at a player because "I paid my for my ticket! It's my right to tell him he's playing like crap!!"

Some people feel al Qaeda might retaliate for killing Osama. I'm sure they would do just as bad if not worse to have him released from custody if he had been captured.

You are right and I agree. It begs the question, though....when should they not lie? To give a government carte blanche to decieve the public is a slippery slope.

WOMD in Iraq come to mind which cost America dearly both financially and in US lives. (Not to mention "collateral damage" lives)

I suggest that an elected government has a mandate to not deceive the electors. Security matters are, of course, a different matter....a matter that is, in line with being honest, best avoided, rather than making media hey day out of.

It comes down to who decides when "the situation calls for it"?

"The daughter has reportedly told her Pakistani investigators that the US forces captured her father alive but shot him dead in front of family members."

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/04/147782.html

not good for The Yewnighted States of America nor for Americans living abroad!