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^Sorry but no it doesn't, ANY tint on the windshield impairs your vision.. It's like saying that I only had one or 2 drinks so I'm not impaired, any alcohol of any amount is enough to impair you from being full up to the task and this no different..

I've seen many cars with it and EVERY one without exception is distorted compared to nothing and you only need look at your tinted side window to see the difference..

How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ?? Some people gradually loose their good vision over time and never know they need glasses and have any real recognition until it gets quite bad, same as this, you have no real point of reference..

I'm also posting for others to make informed decisions and hopefully NOT follow your example :) ..

agreed, any film on windscreen impairs vision, even clear film. any film also increases reflexes from dashboard. So 60% on the 15-20cm upper part reduces sunglare, and the rest just waxed and clean

my 1993 Range Rover had electric heated windshield impairing vision at night when oncomming vehilces had bright lights. Replaced it with non heated glass. The safety of seeing a kid or a moose before they are just in front of you, beats any safety feature available

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^Sorry but no it doesn't, ANY tint on the windshield impairs your vision.. It's like saying that I only had one or 2 drinks so I'm not impaired, any alcohol of any amount is enough to impair you from being full up to the task and this no different..

I've seen many cars with it and EVERY one without exception is distorted compared to nothing and you only need look at your tinted side window to see the difference..

How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ?? Some people gradually loose their good vision over time and never know they need glasses and have any real recognition until it gets quite bad, same as this, you have no real point of reference..

I'm also posting for others to make informed decisions and hopefully NOT follow your example :) ..

agreed, any film on windscreen impairs vision, even clear film. any film also increases reflexes from dashboard. So 60% on the 15-20cm upper part reduces sunglare, and the rest just waxed and clean

my 1993 Range Rover had electric heated windshield impairing vision at night when oncomming vehilces had bright lights. Replaced it with non heated glass. The safety of seeing a kid or a moose before they are just in front of you, beats any safety feature available

Ive had Range Rovers every year since they came out, Ive got one here,but never heard of removing the HRW. Stange Idea.

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^Sorry but no it doesn't, ANY tint on the windshield impairs your vision.. It's like saying that I only had one or 2 drinks so I'm not impaired, any alcohol of any amount is enough to impair you from being full up to the task and this no different..

I've seen many cars with it and EVERY one without exception is distorted compared to nothing and you only need look at your tinted side window to see the difference..

How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ?? Some people gradually loose their good vision over time and never know they need glasses and have any real recognition until it gets quite bad, same as this, you have no real point of reference..

I'm also posting for others to make informed decisions and hopefully NOT follow your example :) ..

agreed, any film on windscreen impairs vision, even clear film. any film also increases reflexes from dashboard. So 60% on the 15-20cm upper part reduces sunglare, and the rest just waxed and clean

my 1993 Range Rover had electric heated windshield impairing vision at night when oncomming vehilces had bright lights. Replaced it with non heated glass. The safety of seeing a kid or a moose before they are just in front of you, beats any safety feature available

Ive had Range Rovers every year since they came out, Ive got one here,but never heard of removing the HRW. Stange Idea.

Sorry, whats HRW. :)

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HRW = Heated Rear Windshield, but I think you're talking at cross purposes as I believe the original complain was for the Heated FRONT windshield.

OK, thanks. :)

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HRW = Heated Rear Windshield, but I think you're talking at cross purposes as I believe the original complain was for the Heated FRONT windshield.

Yepp, it was heated FRONT windshield

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Short answer..............Yes................The right brand of tint at 40% is fine..Lamina or equivalent for example.

Thanks :)

I have used Lamina 60% on past 5-6 cars, and will use it on next car. Not black. Windshield only upper 12-16 cm

For visibility, quality of film is more important than % color

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So ive just looked, 7 Months and i didnt notice the heated front window..Mind you ive never used the Music thingy, its loaded with the Kids Racket. Thanks, ill look for the switch over the next Month.:wub:

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My Range Rover has a heated front windscreen.... If I look hard enough I can see the tiny lines. I have 25% 3M tint all round. There is no additional fuzziness or distortion.

I really dont notice any loss of visibility at night, but assume there must be some loss: it's a negledgable loss at worst and offset by reducing glare in daytime driving.

One thing I find the tint useful for is the additional UV protection for the cars interior materials which may otherwise endure more UV damage when parked in the sun.

I wouldnt go higher than 30% tint - that's just my preference. IMO the 25% tint on the windscreen makes a negligible difference to visibility out of my windscreen.

To the OP: changing the film to a lower tint rating is an easy and quick solution. If you were to have an accident at night because your visibility out of your side windows was impaired you'd kick yourself for not correcting this.

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How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ??

I am kind of confused by this comment: How do I know if my [windscreen] tint causes me blurred vision?

Well... when I look through it things are crystal clear, not blurred! That really is good enough for me... I mean, for absolute clarity I could remove the windscreen altogether, but it messes up the effectiveness of the AC... Perhaps we could discourage the wearing of sunglasses as the lenses cause some (minimal and also unnoticeable) distortion. You really can take things too far... rolleyes.gif

We also need to balance things that impact on our vision. I believe that with the very strong sun in Thailand the windscreen tint improves my ability to see clearly and not be dazzled. Maybe it makes me safer than without the (light) screen tint?

...The right brand of tint at 40% is fine..Lamina or equivalent for example.

I couldn't agree more - 40% all round works fine to reduce heat/light but still work fine at night; and mine is lamina too. I think the colour you choose is also important, especially when it comes to night/rain vision. I am very happy with my greenish tint and would not be happy, for my car, with the darker colours.

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How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ??

I am kind of confused by this comment: How do I know if my [windscreen] tint causes me blurred vision?

Well... when I look through it things are crystal clear, not blurred! That really is good enough for me... I mean, for absolute clarity I could remove the windscreen altogether, but it messes up the effectiveness of the AC... Perhaps we could discourage the wearing of sunglasses as the lenses cause some (minimal and also unnoticeable) distortion. You really can take things too far... rolleyes.gif

We also need to balance things that impact on our vision. I believe that with the very strong sun in Thailand the windscreen tint improves my ability to see clearly and not be dazzled. Maybe it makes me safer than without the (light) screen tint?

...The right brand of tint at 40% is fine..Lamina or equivalent for example.

I couldn't agree more - 40% all round works fine to reduce heat/light but still work fine at night; and mine is lamina too. I think the colour you choose is also important, especially when it comes to night/rain vision. I am very happy with my greenish tint and would not be happy, for my car, with the darker colours.

I drive without sunglasses even during the day and in bright conditions so would having a windscreen tint of around 40-50% be acceptable?

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How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ??

I am kind of confused by this comment: How do I know if my [windscreen] tint causes me blurred vision?

Well... when I look through it things are crystal clear, not blurred! That really is good enough for me... I mean, for absolute clarity I could remove the windscreen altogether, but it messes up the effectiveness of the AC... Perhaps we could discourage the wearing of sunglasses as the lenses cause some (minimal and also unnoticeable) distortion. You really can take things too far... rolleyes.gif

We also need to balance things that impact on our vision. I believe that with the very strong sun in Thailand the windscreen tint improves my ability to see clearly and not be dazzled. Maybe it makes me safer than without the (light) screen tint?

...The right brand of tint at 40% is fine..Lamina or equivalent for example.

I couldn't agree more - 40% all round works fine to reduce heat/light but still work fine at night; and mine is lamina too. I think the colour you choose is also important, especially when it comes to night/rain vision. I am very happy with my greenish tint and would not be happy, for my car, with the darker colours.

I drive without sunglasses even during the day and in bright conditions so would having a windscreen tint of around 40-50% be acceptable?

would you like to keep your 40-50% sunglasses on in the dark?

sorry, couldnt resist that one

any film on windscreen is like wearing sunglasses

I use two kinds of sunglasses in my cars, one pair is like 80% film, one pair is like 40% film. In the dark I need to see other vehicles without lights, buffalos and kids before impact

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I had 40% side and 20% front on a rental .... seemed OK in all weather and at night .... but probably better with none on front.

The logo on the film was very distracting though!

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I had 40% side and 20% front on a rental .... seemed OK in all weather and at night .... but probably better with none on front.

The logo on the film was very distracting though!

Yeah The logo on any film is silly and easily removed if requested when purchased.. I asked them to just leave a couple small spots that are hidden when the windows are up and in the lower corner of my rear window just to show it being quality tinting for resale but the rest has been cleaned off..

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How would you know if your tint causes you blurred vision?? What do you compare it with looking through the same windshield every time you drive that car :rolleyes: ??

I am kind of confused by this comment: How do I know if my [windscreen] tint causes me blurred vision?

Well... when I look through it things are crystal clear, not blurred! That really is good enough for me... I mean, for absolute clarity I could remove the windscreen altogether, but it messes up the effectiveness of the AC... Perhaps we could discourage the wearing of sunglasses as the lenses cause some (minimal and also unnoticeable) distortion. You really can take things too far... rolleyes.gif

We also need to balance things that impact on our vision. I believe that with the very strong sun in Thailand the windscreen tint improves my ability to see clearly and not be dazzled. Maybe it makes me safer than without the (light) screen tint?

Don't know why this quote didn't come up in my notifications but better late then never.

Sorry but I call BS on crystal clear that's why, as mentioned looking through a tinted windshield is like looking through sun glasses only worse as your eyes don't focus like that.

They tend to focus more on the closest thing to them more clearly then far distances with the exception of if it's right against your face at which point they see beyond that but still get some degree of distortion. There are degrees of clarity, no windshield is one degree, looking through a windshield is 2 degrees, looking through a tinted windshield is 3 degrees, looking through a double tinted windshield like you're now doing as all factory windshields are factory tinted and internally laminated for impact as OEM, though it's very good clarity it's still distorted over naked eyesight so, that's 4 degrees and looking through a double tinted windshield with sun glasses on is 5 degrees so currently your vision is 5 degrees worse then it is without anything so minimizing that to the 2 degrees your car came with originally is plenty distorted enough.

You can't tell how bad BECAUSE you are constantly looking through the same distorted glass and have nothing to compare with, your eyes tell you they've adjusted but compared to little or nothing impairing your vision, they're lying to you and haven't..

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I had 40% side and 20% front on a rental .... seemed OK in all weather and at night .... but probably better with none on front.

The logo on the film was very distracting though!

Yeah The logo on any film is silly and easily removed if requested when purchased.. I asked them to just leave a couple small spots that are hidden when the windows are up and in the lower corner of my rear window just to show it being quality tinting for resale but the rest has been cleaned off..

I didn't realise they leave the logo or wordings on the tint and now I have Lamina coming down in vertical stripes. How can I clean these off short of cutting if off?

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I didn't realise they leave the logo or wordings on the tint and now I have Lamina coming down in vertical stripes. How can I clean these off short of cutting if off?

Thais love brand names :)

All prints can/should have been removed by installer. Dont know if its petrol/alcohol/ethanol/thinner based, so best let installer remove it

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I didn't realise they leave the logo or wordings on the tint and now I have Lamina coming down in vertical stripes. How can I clean these off short of cutting if off?

Thais love brand names :)

All prints can/should have been removed by installer. Dont know if its petrol/alcohol/ethanol/thinner based, so best let installer remove it

Seconded, bring it back to the installer if possible or a similar one, you may have to pay them a little if not the original, but doubtful. I think they use denatured alcohol but as Kata stated not worth risking and I don't know where you can get it here anyways.. Silly they don't ask you if you'd like it removed or not, they didn't ask me either I just raised a fuss and got an instant solution..

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I didn't realise they leave the logo or wordings on the tint and now I have Lamina coming down in vertical stripes. How can I clean these off short of cutting if off?

Thais love brand names :)

All prints can/should have been removed by installer. Dont know if its petrol/alcohol/ethanol/thinner based, so best let installer remove it

Seconded, bring it back to the installer if possible or a similar one, you may have to pay them a little if not the original, but doubtful. I think they use denatured alcohol but as Kata stated not worth risking and I don't know where you can get it here anyways.. Silly they don't ask you if you'd like it removed or not, they didn't ask me either I just raised a fuss and got an instant solution..

Wish I'd done that but didn't actually realise it till much later in the day at which time, it was too late as I was flying off the next day.

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Well after reading this I'm going to go with 40% windscreen and 60% everywhere else.

Now here's my question, does adding colour say green or blue (I've heard it improves visibility) or a reflective tint make a big difference? Has anybody tried colours or a reflective tint, do you have any suggestions?

Also I've read through a few threads on window tinting and can't seem to find an answer.

Which of the film suppliers is the Rolls Royce and which is the Lada?

- Lamina

- 3M

- V Kool

- H Kool

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Well after reading this I'm going to go with 40% windscreen and 60% everywhere else.

Now here's my question, does adding colour say green or blue (I've heard it improves visibility) or a reflective tint make a big difference? Has anybody tried colours or a reflective tint, do you have any suggestions?

Also I've read through a few threads on window tinting and can't seem to find an answer.

Which of the film suppliers is the Rolls Royce and which is the Lada?

- Lamina

- 3M

- V Kool

- H Kool

That's a good choice for tint - same as my car, but takes a bit of getting used to at night as it's quite dark. I'm not 100% sure but I think the reflective tint (can't see inside at all), might attract the attention of police. I think a few years back there was a crackdown on it, as you don't see too many cars with this style.

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Anymore than 30% light reduction is bloody dangerous ,but go ahead, kill others just for Looks. Rolls dont use Tint Film , its Pilkingtons or Triplex Sundym Type Polychromeatic, bit like Reactalite Rapide sun glasses. coffee1.gif

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Well after reading this I'm going to go with 40% windscreen and 60% everywhere else.

Now here's my question, does adding colour say green or blue (I've heard it improves visibility) or a reflective tint make a big difference? Has anybody tried colours or a reflective tint, do you have any suggestions?

Also I've read through a few threads on window tinting and can't seem to find an answer.

Which of the film suppliers is the Rolls Royce and which is the Lada?

- Lamina

- 3M

- V Kool

- H Kool

Anymore than 30% light reduction is bloody dangerous ,but go ahead, kill others just for Looks. Rolls dont use Tint Film , its Pilkingtons or Triplex Sundym Type Polychromeatic, bit like Reactalite Rapide sun glasses. coffee1.gif

I've read the pros and cons and I'll take it under advisement but I think the bare minimum that people are using is 30%? Referring to the Rolls Royce comment I meant, what's the best and worst out of the manufacturers Lamina, 3M, V-Kool and H-Kool?

Why tint at all, are you a film star ? If the sun is too bright during the day they have invented a great solution, it's called sun glasses.

I think one of the key benefits of putting film on the windows is to reduce heat and UV rays it's not only to protect your eyes.

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Why tint at all, are you a film star ? If the sun is too bright during the day they have invented a great solution, it's called sun glasses.

I think one of the key benefits of putting film on the windows is to reduce heat and UV rays it's not only to protect your eyes.

Yes and in fact not to protect the eyes at all as it shouldn't be installed on the windscreen and if it is you are actually doing your eyes more harm then good by looking through the opacity of the tint. It also protects the cars interior by blocking the UV rays.

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Anymore than 30% light reduction is bloody dangerous ,but go ahead, kill others just for Looks. Rolls dont use Tint Film , its Pilkingtons or Triplex Sundym Type Polychromeatic, bit like Reactalite Rapide sun glasses. coffee1.gif

Somewhat agree but if you're speaking about the windscreen I think no percentage is good but if the sides then 40% is no problem but any more is dangerous.. Part of defensive driving is being able to read the drivers body language by seeing the head movements etc. obviously can't do that and additionally they need to be able to see out clearly and they can't do that either during the daytime, let alone night time..

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Anymore than 30% light reduction is bloody dangerous ,but go ahead, kill others just for Looks. Rolls dont use Tint Film , its Pilkingtons or Triplex Sundym Type Polychromeatic, bit like Reactalite Rapide sun glasses. coffee1.gif

Somewhat agree but if you're speaking about the windscreen I think no percentage is good but if the sides then 40% is no problem but any more is dangerous.. Part of defensive driving is being able to read the drivers body language by seeing the head movements etc. obviously can't do that and additionally they need to be able to see out clearly and they can't do that either during the daytime, let alone night time..

Thanks for the info!

I've also heard stories that colour can make a big difference like green or blue, does anyone have any comments on that?

If I recall wasn't it the Mercs that had green tinted windows, was it just a gimmick or was it founded?

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