July 4, 201213 yr is the conventional wisdom...yet it was not always thought the case. Many instances can be found of this throughout history of perceived wisdom not in fact being true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admitting_you're_wrong So people throughout the ages have had to admit at times they have been wrong. When were you last wrong?...did you acknowledge it?....and what did you do to rectify the situation?
July 4, 201213 yr Moi?.......wrong?.....surely you jest. However I can think of plenty people who are wrong on an hourly basis
July 4, 201213 yr Author I'm particularly interested in the passive-aggressive angle....I'm studying that at the moment. Mind you the article as a whole is well worth a read for all.
July 4, 201213 yr Passive aggressive, or outright aggressive, is the default position for many people on internet forums. That brings me to a story, my ( so called ) son in law is a silent guy, until he get's on Facebook, and what emerges is an assh*le full of bile and bigoted nonsense. He's the type that will argue a point with you, lose the argument, de-friend you, then continue the attack so you can't reply. I jest you not. He is incapable of being wrong. That's a terrible way to live your life. I'm wrong on a daily basis, being active gives you plenty of opportunity to be wrong. My latest " wrong " of any note was giving an old friend a partnership in one of my businesses. I thought I knew this guy, but hey, was I wrong. A small minded suspicious little demon emerged. I blame myself, in my heart I knew partnerships don't work, so I was wrong to give him the partnership. So there you go, that's me in the wrong, and I admit it. ps. As of 4.30 this afternoon full control of that company returned to me, at least now, if I'm wrong, it was my decision, so I'll suffer the consequences. That's the way it should be. Just sayin'
July 4, 201213 yr Author Passive aggressive, or outright aggressive, is the default position for many people on internet forums. That brings me to a story, my ( so called ) son in law is a silent guy, until he get's on Facebook, and what emerges is an assh*le full of bile and bigoted nonsense. He's the type that will argue a point with you, lose the argument, de-friend you, then continue the attack so you can't reply. I jest you not. He is incapable of being wrong. That's a terrible way to live your life. I'm wrong on a daily basis, being active gives you plenty of opportunity to be wrong. My latest " wrong " of any note was giving an old friend a partnership in one of my businesses. I thought I knew this guy, but hey, was I wrong. A small minded suspicious little demon emerged. I blame myself, in my heart I knew partnerships don't work, so I was wrong to give him the partnership. So there you go, that's me in the wrong, and I admit it. ps. As of 4.30 this afternoon full control of that company returned to me, at least now, if I'm wrong, it was my decision, so I'll suffer the consequences. That's the way it should be. Just sayin' I'm glad to hear of your business success. Well done! I think we are all wrong from time to time in varying degrees. Most of the time we can accept such things and forget it the next day. Only at times some people don't forget things....they linger....and seemingly never go away. No matter how right or wrong we are. That is part of the passive-aggressive cycle I think.
July 5, 201213 yr I just started a thread about being wrong in BKK this morning as I upset a little 7-11 shop girl with no reason and now I'm remorseful and hafta go back to work soon as a big, bad engineer and now am unsure about my abilities... however, the flatness of the earth has credibility as many folks still think that if they venture away from home too far that they will fall offa the edge and never to return...
July 5, 201213 yr Author I just started a thread about being wrong in BKK this morning as I upset a little 7-11 shop girl with no reason and now I'm remorseful and hafta go back to work soon as a big, bad engineer and now am unsure about my abilities... however, the flatness of the earth has credibility as many folks still think that if they venture away from home too far that they will fall offa the edge and never to return... Yeah....sounds like ya recognised it straight off....not much you can do about it if you're half cut though is there?
July 5, 201213 yr Author Ill knock your head in , then gently explain it all to you. Hmmmm yes that aggressive-aggressive approach. Question is.....were you ever wrong to use it?
July 5, 201213 yr Perceptions of being wrong though. Just because someone else believes you are wrong, does not necessarily mean that therefore you are indeed wrong. As an example the flat world theory; that bloke who first said it was round would have been told by everyone he was wrong. But low and behold, he stuck to his guns and was proven right. So, if I know something is correct, and someone says it is wrong and thinks I am a bad bad man for not changing my view point where does the burden of proof lie? Upon the me? Upon the person who thinks I should change my mind? On both parties? Too often especially in forums like TV, people say "You are wrong" and even if the poster goes on to prove they are right(if they can be bothered) the other person will disappear lol. If wrong, proven to be wrong, I will hold my hands up and admit it. If wrong, but not proven to be wrong and therefore I believe I am still correct, then I am correct. Does that make sense? Reminds me of a lecturer at uni on mythology who said that the onus of proof for religious people is upon them to prove it. As an example, he said "In my office I have a little man made entirely of green cheese that tells me what to wear everyday. If I want to be taken seriously and believed the only option I have is to produce little green cheese man to the doubters. If I can't then I have no position to try and make them believe it is correct, and certainly not ask them to let me tell them what they should be wearing each day on the basis that I got it from the cheesy guy in green that morning". Fascinating guy in fact and made the stuffy norm of the university quite pleasant.
July 5, 201213 yr Author Perceptions of being wrong though. Just because someone else believes you are wrong, does not necessarily mean that therefore you are indeed wrong. As an example the flat world theory; that bloke who first said it was round would have been told by everyone he was wrong. But low and behold, he stuck to his guns and was proven right. So, if I know something is correct, and someone says it is wrong and thinks I am a bad bad man for not changing my view point where does the burden of proof lie? Upon the me? Upon the person who thinks I should change my mind? On both parties? Too often especially in forums like TV, people say "You are wrong" and even if the poster goes on to prove they are right(if they can be bothered) the other person will disappear lol. If wrong, proven to be wrong, I will hold my hands up and admit it. If wrong, but not proven to be wrong and therefore I believe I am still correct, then I am correct. Does that make sense? Reminds me of a lecturer at uni on mythology who said that the onus of proof for religious people is upon them to prove it. As an example, he said "In my office I have a little man made entirely of green cheese that tells me what to wear everyday. If I want to be taken seriously and believed the only option I have is to produce little green cheese man to the doubters. If I can't then I have no position to try and make them believe it is correct, and certainly not ask them to let me tell them what they should be wearing each day on the basis that I got it from the cheesy guy in green that morning". Fascinating guy in fact and made the stuffy norm of the university quite pleasant. Quite correct. All these grey areas (or green!) in life. I prefer to think of them through a spectrometer rather than grey though. Thanks for the story....a bright spark your lecturer! Come on now folks....don't be shy....tell us all about your mistakes and how you recognised and rectified them(if indeed you did).
July 5, 201213 yr Another topic that fell out of the sandbox... Last time I was wrong was two days ago. I thought it was June (not July). Thailand can have that effect on people...
July 5, 201213 yr I thought I knew this guy, but hey, was I wrong. A small minded suspicious little demon emerged. Can I just point out to the assembly, it wasn't me
July 17, 201213 yr I have never being wrong, except for the one time I thought I was wrong only later to find out I was not, which makes me wrong for thinking I was wrong when I wasn't. So I guess I was wrong twice for thinking I was wrong once since I was wrong twice , the time I thought I was wrong once, and the time I thought I was wrong but was not. Am I wrong?
July 17, 201213 yr Passive aggressive, or outright aggressive, is the default position for many people on internet forums. That brings me to a story, my ( so called ) son in law is a silent guy, until he get's on Facebook, and what emerges is an assh*le full of bile and bigoted nonsense. He's the type that will argue a point with you, lose the argument, de-friend you, then continue the attack so you can't reply. I jest you not. He is incapable of being wrong. That's a terrible way to live your life. I'm wrong on a daily basis, being active gives you plenty of opportunity to be wrong. My latest " wrong " of any note was giving an old friend a partnership in one of my businesses. I thought I knew this guy, but hey, was I wrong. A small minded suspicious little demon emerged. I blame myself, in my heart I knew partnerships don't work, so I was wrong to give him the partnership. So there you go, that's me in the wrong, and I admit it. ps. As of 4.30 this afternoon full control of that company returned to me, at least now, if I'm wrong, it was my decision, so I'll suffer the consequences. That's the way it should be. Just sayin' NEVER go into business with friends or family! personally I say never go into business with anyone but yourself! Been burnt that way myself!
July 17, 201213 yr I often leap in with ill considered definitive statements...only to be proven wrong shortly after. I find the best way is to admit I am wrong and apologise. Of course after a few drinks i tend to defend my position to the death and beyond. I feel if I am wrong I do need to acknowledge the fact and if appropriate offer an apology. I know many people who rarely acknowledge when they are wrong about something nor will offer an apology. I find it quite odd.
July 17, 201213 yr I have never being wrong, except for the one time I thought I was wrong only later to find out I was not, which makes me wrong for thinking I was wrong when I wasn't. So I guess I was wrong twice for thinking I was wrong once since I was wrong twice , the time I thought I was wrong once, and the time I thought I was wrong but was not. Am I wrong? Not at all. You are right to not think you are wrong yet wrong to think that you might not be right
July 17, 201213 yr I quit smoking 4 days ago. I've not been wrong since. Or at least nobody has dared to tell me I'm wrong.
July 17, 201213 yr I quit smoking 4 days ago. I've not been wrong since. Or at least nobody has dared to tell me I'm wrong. Nothing to do with the OP - but don't give up giving up. In the 90's went for 5 years without a cigarette but started again in a moment of weakness. In 2005 I quit again, when I emigrated to Thailand. So far so good. I still have the urge to smoke, so I made a promise to take it up again when/if I get to 90 years of age. Good luck.
July 17, 201213 yr Author I quit smoking 4 days ago. I've not been wrong since. Or at least nobody has dared to tell me I'm wrong. Remember mate...its a doddle...its only the tobacco companies who want you to think its hard. Another two weeks and the nicotine is gone from your system...well done!
July 17, 201213 yr I quit smoking 4 days ago. I've not been wrong since. Or at least nobody has dared to tell me I'm wrong. I quit in 1993. Get over the first week and you're laughing.
July 17, 201213 yr Author I quit smoking 4 days ago. I've not been wrong since. Or at least nobody has dared to tell me I'm wrong. I quit in 1993. Get over the first week and you're laughing. Don't and you will keep on coughing. Simple choice.
July 17, 201213 yr Hey chaps. Wasn't looking for support or to go off topic but you guys come up trumps and offer words of encouragement. Exactly when I need it. Cheers. The wife and daughter are away and I have a few weeks to not take it out on them. In fact, the wife doesn't even know I'm trying and her not nagging at me has worked. She just säys "darling, why you smoke too much? Do you not want to see Tia grow up". And to keep on topic. When were you last wrong?.Listening to the cowboy Marlboro man ..did you acknowledge it?.Yeah, 30+ years later ...and what did you do to rectify the situation? Cold Turkey
July 17, 201213 yr Author Hey chaps. Wasn't looking for support or to go off topic but you guys come up trumps and offer words of encouragement. Exactly when I need it. Cheers. The wife and daughter are away and I have a few weeks to not take it out on them. In fact, the wife doesn't even know I'm trying and her not nagging at me has worked. She just säys "darling, why you smoke too much? Do you not want to see Tia grow up". And to keep on topic. When were you last wrong?.Listening to the cowboy Marlboro man ..did you acknowledge it?.Yeah, 30+ years later ...and what did you do to rectify the situation? Cold Turkey "The only thing you need to keep telling yourself when you get the urge is that they don't help in any way. Taste horrid, increase your heart rate as opposed to getting a release, and increase your stress levels. The smell is also very unpleasant to those around you. Nicotine is also the most powerful drug known to man. The moment you even have one puff you are back to square one. So don't start up again!!! Rijit is an absolute blowhard ignorant gobshite" For the last sentence....but you need cheering up!
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