Booby-trap them. Allegedly, the Ancient Egyptians already did this to some of their tombs... or was that a pulp fiction addition?

They were certainly built to last, an earthquake flattened half of Cairo a few years back and the pyramids were undamaged. I guess that's what happens when you leave the building work to reputable outside contractors.

"Would you die for them?"

The point isn't to go out and die to save the Pyramids. It's to make the other person die trying to destroy them. So would I kill to save the Pyramids? Sure.

Military intervention means that people usually die - possibly some of your fellow US citizens. It's a bit disingenuous to posit that only your opponents are going to die. You're asking your fellow Americans to risk their lives - would you join them and risk yours?

YES. I'm too old, and unhealthy but if they would have me, train me, give me a gun and put me in the position to do so, I'd gladly shoot any bastard trying to blow up the Pyramids. No question.

This whole "would you die for" bit is not even a valid argument IMO. It's just plain silly. WHAT would any of you be willing to die for? Seriously. What would you lay down your life for? Your children - maybe? When push came to shove, would you really? I'd guess few really would. So does that mean there isn't anything worth saving because "you wouldn't die for it?".

But you're asking other people to die for it. That's what happens during military intervention. People get killed. Simple question. Are you willing to die for the Pyramids? Answers are 'yes' or 'no'. If your answer is 'no' then why do you expect other people to?

Booby-trap them. Allegedly, the Ancient Egyptians already did this to some of their tombs... or was that a pulp fiction addition?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_pharaohs

"Would you die for them?"

The point isn't to go out and die to save the Pyramids. It's to make the other person die trying to destroy them. So would I kill to save the Pyramids? Sure.

Hmmm....I've never seen them...but I have other historical sights of significance. I wouldn't kill to save them. I would do my best to save life if anything at their expense if necessary.

That's a real Kumbaya moment I just had.

I'm hoping you get down the gym and smarten up laddie. You need to be ready....the call to arms could come any day now....

Military intervention means that people usually die - possibly some of your fellow US citizens. It's a bit disingenuous to posit that only your opponents are going to die. You're asking your fellow Americans to risk their lives - would you join them and risk yours?

YES. I'm too old, and unhealthy but if they would have me, train me, give me a gun and put me in the position to do so, I'd gladly shoot any bastard trying to blow up the Pyramids. No question.

This whole "would you die for" bit is not even a valid argument IMO. It's just plain silly. WHAT would any of you be willing to die for? Seriously. What would you lay down your life for? Your children - maybe? When push came to shove, would you really? I'd guess few really would. So does that mean there isn't anything worth saving because "you wouldn't die for it?".

But you're asking other people to die for it. That's what happens during military intervention. People get killed. Simple question. Are you willing to die for the Pyramids? Answers are 'yes' or 'no'. If your answer is 'no' then why do you expect other people to?

I already answered that above in my statement that you replied to. I even made it bold and red so you can't miss it. Now your turn to answer my simple question - what, if anything, are you willing to die for?

Military intervention means that people usually die - possibly some of your fellow US citizens. It's a bit disingenuous to posit that only your opponents are going to die. You're asking your fellow Americans to risk their lives - would you join them and risk yours?

YES. I'm too old, and unhealthy but if they would have me, train me, give me a gun and put me in the position to do so, I'd gladly shoot any bastard trying to blow up the Pyramids. No question.

This whole "would you die for" bit is not even a valid argument IMO. It's just plain silly. WHAT would any of you be willing to die for? Seriously. What would you lay down your life for? Your children - maybe? When push came to shove, would you really? I'd guess few really would. So does that mean there isn't anything worth saving because "you wouldn't die for it?".

But you're asking other people to die for it. That's what happens during military intervention. People get killed. Simple question. Are you willing to die for the Pyramids? Answers are 'yes' or 'no'. If your answer is 'no' then why do you expect other people to?

I already answered that above in my statement that you replied to. I even made it bold and red so you can't miss it. Now your turn to answer my simple question - what, if anything, are you willing to die for?

No you didn't.

"YES. I'm too old, and unhealthy but if they would have me, train me, give me a gun and put me in the position to do so, I'd gladly shoot any bastard trying to blow up the Pyramids. No question."

The question is not 'are you willing to shoot anyone trying to blow up the Pyramids' but 'are you willing to die for the Pyramids'? A question which you continue to duck. Answer the question I asked please - not one that you made up.

Some people die for the sake of getting across the road quicker.

But if we're going to start invading countries because of their own internal activities, wouldn't it be better to start with those countries that are directly threatening us and our fellows? Would you be willing to support a war on the countries with the biggest per capita carbon footprints?

SC

You're asking your fellow Americans to risk their lives - would you join them and risk yours?

YES.

Is that clear enough for you?

BTW - I never "asked my fellow Americans". I clearly stated that the Pyramids belong to mankind, not to any one country, political party or religious group. But you are right to assume that it would be the Americans who would be the first to try to save the 4500 year old Pyramids - backed up of course by your own countrymen as usual.

Would you be willing to support a war on the countries with the biggest per capita carbon footprints?

SC

"countries" plural? How many are you talking about? China is #1 and the USA is #2. Followed by India, Russia and Japan to round out the Top 5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions#List_of_countries_by_2010_emissions_estimates

The remaining countries wouldn't stand a chance in a war against them and the atmosphere would probably be worse off anyway. Another thing for certain is no more wondering whether the Euro will last or not.

Booby-trap them. Allegedly, the Ancient Egyptians already did this to some of their tombs... or was that a pulp fiction addition?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_pharaohs

I don't think curses would have too much effect on modern Islamic fundamentalists. I was thinking of huge slabs of rock which suddenly block off the passages behind them, and leave them to die a slow and lingering death. Of course, landmines on the approaches would do just as well, but they might spoil the tourist trade.

You're asking your fellow Americans to risk their lives - would you join them and risk yours?

YES.

Is that clear enough for you?

BTW - I never "asked my fellow Americans". I clearly stated that the Pyramids belong to mankind, not to any one country, political party or religious group. But you are right to assume that it would be the Americans who would be the first to try to save the 4500 year old Pyramids - backed up of course by your own countrymen as usual.

We've got form in Egypt. We weren't very successful. I'm not sure we've got any soldiers left. They're all protecting the Olympics now that G4S have screwed up (yet again).

There is form here, the Buddhas of Bamiyan were blown up, but they were only 1700 years old. There is already too much meddling in the affairs of foreign countries, because they have a different belief system to those that meddle.

Where do you stop, where is the defining line before you meddle?

There will be no western bodies on the line defending the tombs of the Pharaoh's, there is no oil in Egypt.

After a little research, it would appear that a lot of the Ancient Monuments are being systematically destroyed, by whom you might ask, Western Conservation teams, no less.

Better get back in training K' you're off to Egypt, hope you do better than Auchenleck.

I wonder what his fellow troops will make of their small picks and shovels...?

Sure

Just as much as I supported military intervention to prevent Pastor Terry Jones Koran burning in Florida.

After a little research, it would appear that a lot of the Ancient Monuments are being systematically destroyed, by whom you might ask, Western Conservation teams, no less.

Better get back in training K' you're off to Egypt, hope you do better than Auchenleck.

Not necessarily the Western Conservation Teams, but certainly works associated with them.

In the eighties the UNESCO people decided that the museum in Tripoli, Libya, needed to be brought up to a decent standard. Which it did - it was very old, very poorly constructed. I was working with the major construction company that won the contract.

Now this museum contained all the best remaining Roman and ancient Greek statuary and carvings from Leptis Magna, Sabratha and other Libyan sites (which have an amazing selection of ancient ruins). Before we started work all the contents had to be moved out. UNESCO/the museum employed locals to do this, mostly the museum staff. Now have you ever seen a fifty-year-old five-foot-six museum security guard pick up a stone statue half as big again as he is, and three times the weight? You guessed it - many of the items were dropped and smashed.

We did the upgrade, as usual a perfect job. But what went back into the museum was less than half what was in there before. If they'd let us do the whole job nothing would have been broken. But no - we were hairy-assed construction workers who couldn't possibly be trusted with such valuable clues to past history.

In the ten years I was in Libya I took many other expats on trips to Leptis Magna, Cyrene and several other ancient sites. Mostly East Europeans, but some Westerners as well. I had hundreds of photos and such of Greek, Roman and Arab historical places and artifacts, as well as all the war graves between Benghazi and Tripoli. I am informed that since Gaddafi's demise many of these have been destroyed.

Such is life.

Islamic fundamentalists seem to have no aesthetic values, no historical values, no education whatsoever outside their narrow misinterpretations of the Koran.

The same could be said for fundamentalists of any religion, Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Hindu etc and their over fixation on selected literature!

Islamic fundamentalists seem to have no aesthetic values, no historical values, no education whatsoever outside their narrow misinterpretations of the Koran.

The same could be said for fundamentalists of any religion, Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Hindu etc and their over fixation on selected literature!

On aesthetic values, I agree. But I think some of them have too many historical values!

Well here's some good news for all those gearing up to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the Pyramids from Muslim fundamentalists.

You can stand down.

The original story, seized upon with relish by islamophobe hate sites to further their agenda, was a parody Twitter post.

Shame in a way as a debate about the destruction of historical sites around the world would be ab interesting if sad topic.

Well here's some good news for all those gearing up to make the ultimate sacrifice to save the Pyramids from Muslim fundamentalists.

You can stand down.

The original story, seized upon with relish by islamophobe hate sites to further their agenda, was a parody Twitter post.

Shame in a way as a debate about the destruction of historical sites around the world would be ab interesting if sad topic.

Twitter?! Again?! A day doesn't go by anymore without someone getting in trouble for something they wrote on Twitter. I think it might be time to replace Islamic Fundamentalism with Twitter as the main threat to western civilization. Let's invade! Who's with me this time?

Actually Twitter is a great way of exposing idiots and their apparent inability to resist the opportunity to make dumb comments in public.

Actually Twitter is a great way of exposing idiots and their apparent inability to resist the opportunity to make dumb comments in public.

You'd need to have a far briefer, and more precise turn of phrase than I do. I've never felt the temptation to dumb down to that level and try to say anything relevant on tw

I suppose twitter is really aimed at people who suffer from Tourette's Syndrome

SC

Arse!