The Law of Attraction

Seen it? What do you think of the concept?

urgh... I think it is cra_p. I loathe that book and its ridiculous spoutings.

You can't be anything you want. I cant be the president of the USA. I cant be a Quantum physicist. I cant have a photographic memory.

The list could go on and on about things wrong with the concept throughout the book and featured in the video.

Visualise and it will happen!

It's no secret that's a big load of crap!

I have to agree, what a load of crap.

They have it on Netflix, so I started to watch it.

<deleted>, there is 15 minutes of my life, I will never get back. (That;s how long I lasted before turning it off)

The Law of Attraction

What do you think of the concept?

Have not seen it...........(This film)

What do I think of the concept?

The laws of attraction & repulsion are very interesting.

It has been termed many things.

Even Alchemy ...yet alchemy has been mistakenly defined as changing of base metals.

It is not that at all.

The majority cannot conceive of it nor make sense of it, so they will term it nonsense.

The Law of Attraction

What do you think of the concept?

Have not seen it...........(This film)

What do I think of the concept?

The laws of attraction & repulsion are very interesting.

It has been termed many things.

Even Alchemy ...yet alchemy has been mistakenly defined as changing of base metals.

It is not that at all.

The majority cannot conceive of it nor make sense of it, so they will term it nonsense.

and we all know how well alchemy worked

The Law of Attraction

What do you think of the concept?

Have not seen it...........(This film)

What do I think of the concept?

The laws of attraction & repulsion are very interesting.

It has been termed many things.

Even Alchemy ...yet alchemy has been mistakenly defined as changing of base metals.

It is not that at all.

The majority cannot conceive of it nor make sense of it, so they will term it nonsense.

and we all know how well alchemy worked

As I said...Alchemy is not as exoterically described.

description was simplified/hidden for what ever reason

Same as most parables .......

The Law of Attraction

What do you think of the concept?

Have not seen it...........(This film)

What do I think of the concept?

The laws of attraction & repulsion are very interesting.

It has been termed many things.

Even Alchemy ...yet alchemy has been mistakenly defined as changing of base metals.

It is not that at all.

The majority cannot conceive of it nor make sense of it, so they will term it nonsense.

and we all know how well alchemy worked

As I said...Alchemy is not as exoterically described.

description was simplified/hidden for what ever reason

Same as most parables .......

You will have to be more specific than this.

all this cryptic, statements implying some esoteric knowledge are good and well but do't do one iota of good towards

disusing the merits of shortfalls of the "Law of attraction"

By the way is there such law? it sound catchy , but where in physics, and the laws that govern the Univerce is such law described?

As I said...Alchemy is not as exoterically described.

description was simplified/hidden for what ever reason

Same as most parables .......

You will have to be more specific than this.

all this cryptic, statements implying some esoteric knowledge are good and well but do't do one iota of good towards

disusing the merits of shortfalls of the "Law of attraction"

By the way is there such law? it sound catchy , but where in physics, and the laws that govern the Univerce is such law described?

Sorry did not mean to be cryptic

What I meant was literally as I said...

Alchemy was originally about manifestation etc.

Later it was described as turning lead into gold etc.

It was a parable for taking a base as in human with no

knowledge of their capacity/abilities & turning into gold or realized.

Laws of attraction & repulsion? You see them daily

Basic things would be like magnetics or even tides & moon etc.

eek.............what do *you* think of the concept?

as far as we know, there are four fundamental interactions or forces: gravitation, electromagnetism, the weak , and the strong force or interaction, and they all behave by the laws that are described in physics..

from these laws we can model, and make predictions.

These forces determine how everything relates to everything else, from subatomic particles to the tide, and falling bodies.

It is Newton's First Law of Motion that states: An object at rest will remain at rest unless acted upon by an unbalanced force; An object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. This is also known as the Law of Inertia.

I don't mean to beat up on you. or to give you a hard time. I am just trying to understand, If there is a law of attraction that can make me wealthy healthy and attractive,I certainly want to know about it.

I watched some of that video before I gave up, and I could not find anything useful in it.

Can you state this"law of attraction" in Newtonian or relativistic terms such as the law stated above, so that I can understand it.?

Can you state this"law of attraction" in like terms such as the law above so that I can understand it.?

No sorry I cannot & in fact it is quite the opposite...

meaning unlike Coulombs law of attraction/repulsion

Like Charges Repel

Unlike Charges attract

Yet in the subject at hand.... like charges attract

I think I understand your question but there is no answer I can give you.

You do in fact create your reality. Everything that you are you first imagined.

I do not mean to sound airy & I am not speaking from any religious point at all.

It is a very large subject that has to be understood individually.

What I "know" probably would not be the same for you nor probably even of use to you...I cannot say

When you say things like

"If there is a law of attraction that can make me wealthy healthy and attractive,I certainly want to know about it."

I do smile as I am not sure what to make of such a statement.

I had not heard of this video before this topic.

Is this something freely available or is a DVD of sorts?

I may be curious to see it.

Her eis the first 25 minutes

also...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(2006_film)

also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book)

to quote: The Secret describes the law of attraction as a natural law that determines the complete order of the universe and of our personal lives through the process of "like attracts like." That is, as we think and feel, a corresponding frequency is sent out into the universe that attracts back to us events and circumstances on that same frequency. For example, if you think angry thoughts and feel angry, you will attract back events and circumstances that cause you to feel more anger. Conversely, if you think and feel positively, you will attract back positive events and circumstances. The law claims that desirable outcomes such as health, wealth, and happiness can be attracted simply by changing one’s thoughts and feelings. It says that our thoughts are magnetic and they attract thoughts of similar frequency.Whatever thoughts we dwell upon,we attract similar thoughts in our life.

I have no issue with the process of positive thinking.

I think it can open up a lot of avenues and opportunities.

I find all the hoopla with the Secret to be pushing it too far though: seems to based on pseudo-science at best.

Here is the first 25 minutes

to quote: The Secret describes the law of attraction as a natural law that determines the complete order of the universe and of our personal lives through the process of "like attracts like." That is, as we think and feel, a corresponding frequency is sent out into the universe that attracts back to us events and circumstances on that same frequency. For example, if you think angry thoughts and feel angry, you will attract back events and circumstances that cause you to feel more anger. Conversely, if you think and feel positively, you will attract back positive events and circumstances. The law claims that desirable outcomes such as health, wealth, and happiness can be attracted simply by changing one’s thoughts and feelings. It says that our thoughts are magnetic and they attract thoughts of similar frequency.Whatever thoughts we dwell upon,we attract similar thoughts in our life.

Thanks Bookman will have a watch later

I would say I agree with the written quote 100% but that flip of polarity is just the start.

But without that flip one cannot even start.

The last sentence of the quote is the best & a double edged one. Doubled edged because even if one

is able to flip....... it is not to say one is able to stay flipped.....such is life

I find all the hoopla with the Secret to be pushing it too far though: seems to based on pseudo-science at best.

You are not alone BookMan in that thinking

You can go back literally thousands of years & it was always the same.

Either pseudo science or religion/witchcraft etc are the tags given

I am also a proponent of positive thinking, of you finding what you look for, and of needing to show up for the game in order to win.

But I also believe bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people, and all the positive thinking in the world will not change that.

Here is the first 25 minutes

Watched it.....Thanks

Sensationalized & simplified....Yes

100% correct though & I did have to laugh at how many things

were things I have said in my own life.

Here is the first 25 minutes

Watched it.....Thanks

Sensationalized & simplified....Yes

100% correct though & I did have to laugh at how many things

were things I have said in my own life.

ok . then I guess the video did not do a good job at explaining it to me,

Could you please explain your understanding of the concept?

My basic thoughts on the secret and what i thought of it...

well i liked it.

Not saying i buy the whole shabang, spiel, etc.

Just the concept of positive thinking... and the concept that thinking positively will attract more positivity to you.

I know some very negative people..and they are consumed by it. They seem to take great pleasure in trying to destroy other peoples positvity, and revel in others negativity. If im around that, it wears me down. Its not just about what they say, its their general "vibe".

Nothing ever seems to go right for them..but i believe thats down to their "glass half full" mentality...thus, negative thinking.

There are some people who are just great to be around..where i feel engergized purely by their demeaner.

Im not talking about "shiny happy people" here..just some real 'contentment' within them, no airs or graces or trying too hard. Just feels good to be around them.

I aim to be comfortable in my own skin, and happy, and positive.

Ive had some unbelievably bad things happen in my life..and those tiimes that i have wallowed in misery got me nowhere but deeper down in negativity.

As soon as i start becoming aware of that, and tell myself no matter what to think positively..i feel better. Even if the bad stuff is still there to be waded through..its just easier.

Im not saying i believe in just thinking something and it will come to me, just as i dont believe in religious "miracles". I do however believe we know so little about the power of the mind still.

I believe if you think negatively it affects our physical health..so maybe thinking positively CAN heal in some way. Taking animals into hospitals, care-homes, etc, has proven benificial to the patients..so what does that really boil down to? Our thinking..yes?

I appreciate some concepts in various religions..doesnt mean i subscribe to any of them.

I appreciate the philosophy of thinking positive and that it can generate good things in my life.

At the very least, there is certainly no harm in living with a positive frame of mind.

Just my rather simple thoughts on the subject.

I am also a proponent of positive thinking, of you finding what you look for, and of needing to show up for the game in order to win.

But I also believe bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people, and all the positive thinking in the world will not change that.

Agree, but those with a positive mindset can eventually get through it, deal with it, and move on. Those with a negative mindset can find themselves totally trapped within it and that can affect not only their general state of mind, but also their physical health.

I am also a proponent of positive thinking, of you finding what you look for, and of needing to show up for the game in order to win.

But I also believe bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people, and all the positive thinking in the world will not change that.

Agree, but those with a positive mindset can eventually get through it, deal with it, and move on. Those with a negative mindset can find themselves totally trapped within it and that can affect not only their general state of mind, but also their physical health.

Sure with out a doubt, I agree with most everything you say. Your attitude , and how you perceive what happen helps you put it in the proper perspective , and affects how you deal with it. And I am also a believer that you find what you look for, with in the limits of reality. for instance you have people that complain about Thailand, and that everything is bad here,. they come here with a negative attitude and because of it, that is all they see. And then you have people that come here with a positive attitude and all they find is Happiness and good things. both people are deluding them selves to a certain degree, I an sure the reality, as with every thing ,is some where in the middle. But the one

who is deluding him self in a positive way is at least happy.

This is not a secret it is something that is known by most reasonable people

I think what this "secret" video eludes to, is that thought has a physical attribute that some how by the use of positive vibrations (what ever that is, and I am very familiar with frequencies and their affect on the state of matter) generated by positive thought you attract positive outcomes . This assumes that there is a pool of possible outcomes, Which in science would be the multiverse (multiple universes existing simultaneously, with every possible outcome) and I guess by the power of your thinking you are transported to the universe most comparable to your thinking.or simple stay in the one you are in, but the one you are in is a universes where a person like you existed that was up to now mediocre in is thinking thinking , and then he changed his thinking and good things started happening to him.

The problem with this hypothesis is that even though multiple universes with multiple outcomes might exist.these multiple outcomes have to behave with in the confines of the physical laws that govern the universe, if they don't then we are talking about magic.

I don't know, am I making any sense?

My basic thoughts on the secret and what i thought of it...

well i liked it.

Not saying i buy the whole shabang, spiel, etc.

Just the concept of positive thinking... and the concept that thinking positively will attract more positivity to you.

I know some very negative people..and they are consumed by it. They seem to take great pleasure in trying to destroy other peoples positvity, and revel in others negativity. If im around that, it wears me down. Its not just about what they say, its their general "vibe".

Nothing ever seems to go right for them..but i believe thats down to their "glass half full" mentality...thus, negative thinking.

There are some people who are just great to be around..where i feel engergized purely by their demeaner.

Im not talking about "shiny happy people" here..just some real 'contentment' within them, no airs or graces or trying too hard. Just feels good to be around them.

I aim to be comfortable in my own skin, and happy, and positive.

Ive had some unbelievably bad things happen in my life..and those tiimes that i have wallowed in misery got me nowhere but deeper down in negativity.

As soon as i start becoming aware of that, and tell myself no matter what to think positively..i feel better. Even if the bad stuff is still there to be waded through..its just easier.

Im not saying i believe in just thinking something and it will come to me, just as i dont believe in religious "miracles". I do however believe we know so little about the power of the mind still.

I believe if you think negatively it affects our physical health..so maybe thinking positively CAN heal in some way. Taking animals into hospitals, care-homes, etc, has proven benificial to the patients..so what does that really boil down to? Our thinking..yes?

I appreciate some concepts in various religions..doesnt mean i subscribe to any of them.

I appreciate the philosophy of thinking positive and that it can generate good things in my life.

At the very least, there is certainly no harm in living with a positive frame of mind.

Just my rather simple thoughts on the subject.

I agree with most everything you say here (cept about liking the Secret ).

Having a positive outlook on life certainly brings rewards, opening up doors, allowing yourself to move onwards etcetera.

In relation to work stress, which I find mainly comes from worrying about things too much, I have found that if i simply accept a (bad) situation or I compartmentalise some annoying issues, my work stress is greatly diminished. This is basically thinking positively, rather than negatively , about the situation, although I still have to deal with the situation.

Negativity can eat into you and those around you. I know I don't like to be around negative people and I try and catch myself when I slip into that groove.

Of course, some people can take being positive too far, relying on the 'things will be okay' mentality , rather than dealing with an issue at hand. I have seen this many times.

There needs to be a balance, as with anything. The problem with books like The Secret is that they claim that you can change your entire Life and have whatever you want by just creating the positive vibes, therefore attracting (or repelling) the negatives and gaining the riches. That is a simplistic notion and for many people it will lead them to fail to deal with root cause issues.

If you like The Secret then you ought to try and get hold of a book called 'Stop thinking - start living' by Richard Carlson. Its main message is that thoughts are just that - thoughts - things that whiz round in your head. They're not reality and allowing them to control you rather than the other way round is not good for you. It sounds fairly Buddhist to me. Anyway it's a book that's very well worth reading. One of those 'change your life' books.

If you like The Secret then you ought to try and get hold of a book called 'Stop thinking - start living' by Richard Carlson. Its main message is that thoughts are just that - thoughts - things that whiz round in your head. They're not reality and allowing them to control you rather than the other way round is not good for you. It sounds fairly Buddhist to me. Anyway it's a book that's very well worth reading. One of those 'change your life' books.

Thanks that looks good & makes one wonder if the old saying "Watch What You Wish For" has similar origins

Agree it sounds meditative in the fact that only once quieted can you really have control of your thoughts.

Anyone who has spent time trying to sit down & quiet their thoughts knows how hard it can be at first.

Funny thing is once achieved you do not know how long you achieved it for or if you fell asleep etc.

Go outside and smile at every one you see.

Then tomorrow

Go outside and frown at everyone you see.

Most people give up before the positive shows up in they're life and start thinking negative again. If there's people around you causing you to think negative things then get away from them...oh shit i forgot, this is the Thaivisa forum.