Can Coming To Thailand Make You Bisexual?

[Jingthing]

BTW, as far as I know, there were no STD's in Ancient Greek times, certainly no syphillis or HIV/ AIDS

I think you are correct.

Far from correct.

chlamydia and gonorrhea have been around since ancient times (The Bible actually refers to a disease that causes vaginal discharges) Julius Caesar quite possibly had it as he shagged Nicomedes the king of Bythinia and just about every other woman in Rome that caught his fancy. I believe it was Seutonius who wrote that he infected Roman Senators wives. Actually, gonorrhoea was referred to by the Ancient Egyptians as well.

I was speaking of the two he mentioned. Syphilis came from the new world ... LATER. Aids came from Africa ... LATER.

[forumuser10]

I wonder how many parents are really proud of their kids.

Yeah, both Thais and Foreigners...

[krisb]

BTW, as far as I know, there were no STD's in Ancient Greek times, certainly no syphillis or HIV/ AIDS

I think you are correct.

Far from correct.

chlamydia and gonorrhea have been around since ancient times (The Bible actually refers to a disease that causes vaginal discharges) Julius Caesar quite possibly had it as he shagged Nicomedes the king of Bythinia and just about every other woman in Rome that caught his fancy. I believe it was Seutonius who wrote that he infected Roman Senators wives. Actually, gonorrhoea was referred to by the Ancient Egyptians as well.

I was speaking of the two he mentioned. Syphilis came from the new world ... LATER. Aids came from Africa ... LATER.

Whatever. Take it back under the rock.

[ALFREDO]

Here seem a lot or at least some? Who do not give people the freedom to express themselves and make what they like!

Sorry that.

[Rimmer]

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[chiangmaikelly]

Here seem a lot or at least some? Who do not give people the freedom to express themselves and make what they like!

Sorry that.

Intolerance is hard for me to figure out. Why some people can't even allow a discussion of ideas that do not conform to their own? It must be too scary for them to see that not all people are the same.

[krisb]

Owwww, 3 male lookn smileys, they must be havn a 3some. Gods sake. Why when it comes to Thailand do the gays get so serious? Bit queer isnt it?

Why does it bother you so much?

It just amazes me how much gays feel the need to unite. If th thread had started my friend went overseas and all he wants is black ladies(for example) I doubt all the black people would jump up and down. They would say QUIETLY to themselves "see".

....just saying.

Did you read the whole thread? Just asking because I don't really see a unification of any sexual persuasion jumping up and down. Plenty of opinions on both sides and in between.

Not really. Its turned into 1 big fat gay topic now. Its all the gays trying to support the ideas inside their heads and trying to get the rest of us to support it. Better if you talk to your parents, im sure they support your ladyboy taste in life.

...just sayn.

Edited August 21, 2012 by krisb

[chiangmaikelly]

Why does it bother you so much?

It just amazes me how much gays feel the need to unite. If th thread had started my friend went overseas and all he wants is black ladies(for example) I doubt all the black people would jump up and down. They would say QUIETLY to themselves "see".

....just saying.

Did you read the whole thread? Just asking because I don't really see a unification of any sexual persuasion jumping up and down. Plenty of opinions on both sides and in between.

Not really. Its turned into 1 big fat gay topic now. Its all the gays trying to support the ideas inside their heads and trying to get the rest of us to support it. Better if you talk to your parents, im sure they support your ladyboy taste in life.

...just sayn.

My parents died at 99 years of age, 10 years ago RIP. Why do you care if people like lady boys or not? I read the whole thread. Seems OK to me. Gays say guys who like lady boys are not gay. Guys who like lady boys are not talking much with a couple of exceptions and I have the feeling they are in the minority.

[canman]

Well if I had a 'ladyboy taste in life' and my parents were still around I suspect my parents would not be overly supportive but then again the whole concept would have been so foreign to them I could not really blame them.

[chiangmaikelly]

For chrisinth, regarding his post #475.

Happy to make the input, because it frustrates me to hear so many opinions based on so little actual experience... or so many of the posters claim. I suspect there may be the odd lurker in the woodwork.

I did explain how most guys who love ladyboys feel about thier own sexuality in an early post back on around page 14 or 15.

Simply we see ourselves as straight-...ish. Not truly bisexual, because the male physique holds no sexual interest for us. Not straight, as we like our girls with extra bits. So ... straightish. The best way I can explain it is this way. For me Salma Hayak is one of the most beautiful women in the world. Voluptuous Latina looks. I give her 9/10. Now if she were a pre-op ladyboy she would be 10/10. Maybe that makes no sense to most of you. But it does to me. I love women. I don't sleep with them anymore, I jumped that fence a long long time ago. But I still find them sexy, appealing and gorgeous. I do not feel that way about any man I have ever met, or am likely to meet.

Here's a surprise for you. When i first came hurtling out of the closet on this one, I was in my home country. My straight male mates were really supportive. Yep they took the piss. But that is what I expected and it was pretty funny and not degrading. Its how mates treat each other. My female friends went toxic on me: not liking the fact I had found an alternative to the worship of womanhood, and my gay mates thought I had turned gay. It took a few harsh words to make them understand that I was not int he least into men then, and still am not.

Ladyboys are a gateway to becoming gay in the same way as pot is a gateway to heroin. It may happen for some, but the majority have found what they want.

Thanks f0xxee, that is the best descriptiive text on this subject I have read in this whole thread

f0xxee said, "I did explain how most guys who love ladyboys feel about thier own sexuality in an early post back on around page 14 or 15." How does he know that? Does he know mosst guys who love ladyboys? Or should he have confined his remarks to himself instead of trying to speak for thousands or millions of other people? Just asking.

Since you are just asking (in a rather aggressive tone I might ad) I am just replying:

How do I know? Did you read my post before jumping into print? Its how I feel...and I might ad, how many others feel too. Not all, but many. Some have different tastes, but we are basically the same.

And how do I know? Well surprise surprise, there are forums dedicated to ladyboys out there.( I am sure you are aware of that and have "accidently" spent an hour or two on them) And the #1 question on nearly everyone of those forums is: "I like ladyboys... does that make me gay?" In the 15 years or so of being of this persuasion I have thought about it, talked about it with the like minded. So I guess I am allowed the same broad scope of generalisation that you enjoy with your posts.

And lastly, nice to know there are thousands, possibly millions of us out there...

Sorry I didn't mean to sound aggressive. Yes I know about the lady boy sites. I don't like them for a number of different reasons.

I appreciate that you think you know a lot about the subject but I don't agree with much of what you are saying. I think people who like lady boys are a very diverse group and difficult to generalize about especially with words like love.

[WinnieTheKhwai]

I wonder how many parents are really proud of their kids.

Pretty much all of them? This is still Thailand; it may be a bit of a shock, but acceptance, support and then pride follow soon after.

I know I would be.

[cdnvic]

Can't believe we went 22 pages before anyone was suspended. Despite one lesser light getting sent off and a few minor posting suspensions, I must say I'm impressed with the restraint shown in this topic. By all accounts it should have been DOA, but most of you proved us wrong.

[sotsira]

Who says that a Ladyboy is a Gay?

What do you call a female brain in a male body?

Or a male brain in a female body?

Would these be the true Gays?

Not those who choose it for fashion!

Ladyboys are gay because they have a female brain in a male body.

A male brain in a female body is a lesbian.

Fashion has nothing to do with it.

<deleted>. You're confusing trans issues and gay. VERY different.

Look at it this way JT,

If your gay, you like having sex with men.

If your a ladyboy, you still like having sex with men.

So that makes it gay on both accounts.

If you think ladyboys are not gay then what are they?

[elliss]

I'm pretty sure that many men are being attracted to them. Last time I've been in Pattya, I saw a Kathoey bar full with foreign customers.

The World Wide Web is full with dating websites. The porno industry seems to make good money too.

Guess not just Thailand has a lot of them. People shouldn't make jokes about those who like them, because they are so straight.

Coming to Thailand could help many guys to live their sexuality as they want to.

My cat likes to eat mice, I don't. But I like my cat.......

FYI. the majority of gay men , not having kids ,and a devorce settlement, have much more disposeable income .

pattaya , is certainly not the place for respectable gays . it is too brash and crude .

with most of the farang sex tourists looking like a cross between henry V111,and billy bunters.

and soo many loud mouth larger louts ,especially the british , who are soo embarrasing , go home please.

bangkok is a far better , more sophisticated,with a good choice of safe meeting places bars and gymnasiums, [ jims ]

., live and let live ,

i

[whistleblower]

I'm pretty sure that many men are being attracted to them. Last time I've been in Pattya, I saw a Kathoey bar full with foreign customers.

The World Wide Web is full with dating websites. The porno industry seems to make good money too.

Guess not just Thailand has a lot of them. People shouldn't make jokes about those who like them, because they are so straight.

Coming to Thailand could help many guys to live their sexuality as they want to.

My cat likes to eat mice, I don't. But I like my cat.......

FYI. the majority of gay men , not having kids ,and a devorce settlement, have much more disposeable income .

pattaya , is certainly not the place for respectable gays . it is too brash and crude .

with most of the farang sex tourists looking like a cross between henry V111,and billy bunters.

and soo many loud mouth larger louts ,especially the british , who are soo embarrasing , go home please.

bangkok is a far better , more sophisticated,with a good choice of safe meeting places bars and gymnasiums, [ jims ]

., live and let live ,

i

Less of the British bashing please! Your telling me your country doesnt have lager louts??

[Chopperboy]

To make a long story short, he really enjoyed himself and he spent the rest of his holiday picking up ladyboys every night and never mentioned the religious stuff again. I don't know what to call him, but he was not straight.

Well he was not gay either! - I've never heard of any gay friends who have been with a lady boy when they are in womans cloths! Only very occasionally if the odd one has turned back into a boy.

Lady boys are for straight men who have been hanging round with the girlies for too long.

Edited August 21, 2012 by Chopperboy

[sotsira]

To make a long story short, he really enjoyed himself and he spent the rest of his holiday picking up ladyboys every night and never mentioned the religious stuff again. I don't know what to call him, but he was not straight.

Well he was not gay either! - I've never heard of any gay friends who have been with a lady boy when they are in womans cloths! Only very occasionally if the odd one has turned back into a boy.

Lady boys are for straight men who have been hanging round with the girlies for too long.

Disagree,

ladyboys are for bisexual men who have been hanging around with girlies for too long,

i think that would be more accurate.

You just can't be considered straight and still have sex with men dressed in women's clothing,

sorry.

[daftpunker]

hello im back again

[Jingthing]

To make a long story short, he really enjoyed himself and he spent the rest of his holiday picking up ladyboys every night and never mentioned the religious stuff again. I don't know what to call him, but he was not straight.

Well he was not gay either! - I've never heard of any gay friends who have been with a lady boy when they are in womans cloths! Only very occasionally if the odd one has turned back into a boy.

Lady boys are for straight men who have been hanging round with the girlies for too long.

Disagree,

ladyboys are for bisexual men who have been hanging around with girlies for too long,

i think that would be more accurate.

You just can't be considered straight and still have sex with men dressed in women's clothing,

sorry.

Actually I think what matters is how the men chasing the LBs consider THEMSELVES. If they identify as gay or bisexual, that's what they are. But I'm telling you MOST LB lovers identify themselves to themselves as heterosexual, and that is what they are.

[daftpunker]

there confused

[Chopperboy]

To make a long story short, he really enjoyed himself and he spent the rest of his holiday picking up ladyboys every night and never mentioned the religious stuff again. I don't know what to call him, but he was not straight.

Well he was not gay either! - I've never heard of any gay friends who have been with a lady boy when they are in womans cloths! Only very occasionally if the odd one has turned back into a boy.

Lady boys are for straight men who have been hanging round with the girlies for too long.

Disagree,

ladyboys are for bisexual men who have been hanging around with girlies for too long,

i think that would be more accurate.

You just can't be considered straight and still have sex with men dressed in women's clothing,

sorry.

You can't be considered gay and still having sex with anyone dressed as a woman!

[sotsira]

Exactly, that's why they're bisexual Chopperboy.

[Jingthing]

Exactly, that's why they're bisexual Chopperboy.

Sex acts don't define sexual orientation. Sexual orientation defines sexual orientation. Most gay men have had sex with a woman. That doesn't make them straight OR bisexual. Unless they are. Focusing so much on the external sex acts ignores the psychological reality.

[cdnvic]

Exactly, that's why they're bisexual Chopperboy.

Sex acts don't define sexual orientation. Sexual orientation defines sexual orientation. Most gay men have had sex with a woman. That doesn't make them straight OR bisexual. Unless they are. Focusing so much on the external sex acts ignores the psychological reality.

JT has a point here. Of all the people I've known who have had an interaction with a ladyboy, most were taken by surprise to find parts they did not expect. All of them identified as hetro, and thought they were with a woman at first. Maybe one in three continued on, but I don't know of any of them who later came out as being gay or even bi. Some people are just adventurous.

[Johnniey]

Is he pitching or catching? and wouldnt this be better in the gay section of TV?

Ladyboy topics about straight men being into ladyboys are not gay forum topics.

They should be IMHO but I'm not a moderator like you.

[Jingthing]

Is he pitching or catching? and wouldnt this be better in the gay section of TV?

Ladyboy topics about straight men being into ladyboys are not gay forum topics.

They should be IMHO but I'm not a moderator like you.

That is your opinion. I suggest you PM a mod (I'm not one) and request the topic be moved and then see what they do.

[sotsira]

To cdnvic,

I was referring to the men that intentionally go with ladyboys, not ones who think their with a woman

and later get surprised. Just like the OP's friend.

[bangkaew]

is he going for pre-op lady boys? I would say if that's the case then he wants homosexual acts. Most men when teens masturbate a lot and would felate themselves if possible. This may become an obsession. They are not attracted to men. Perhaps lady boys are a way to satisfy the curiosity with an attractive 'lady'!

[Docno]

All you need to do is to come up to Issan at Songkran and join in the festivities in one of the bigger cities when the buffalo katoey come in from the boonies to celebrate. That'd knock anybody's Nong Poy fantasies straight out of the ballpark.

True true true! If you speak Thai this is even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPVNPzP5JWQ

Ha! Near the start of the video the name of the beauty shop is partly obscured by a reflection so I thought it said "Buffalo Dink Salon". Was half-way through before I released I was wrong... The power of mental priming!

[daftpunker]

is he going for pre-op lady boys? I would say if that's the case then he wants homosexual acts. Most men when teens masturbate a lot and would felate themselves if possible. This may become an obsession. They are not attracted to men. Perhaps lady boys are a way to satisfy the curiosity with an attractive 'lady'!

eh?