tragickingdom Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 As long as the brains of children do not suffer as much damage as the brains which whom the elite are born, I prefer my children to use modern technology instead of decade old rubbish books. I bet that for this specialist ten can be found who claim otherwise. That is why prosecution and defense always find their own witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 You have to wonder if kids get any mental stimulation in government schools, I doubt it! Sent from my GT-P6200 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 What a ridiculous article - A proclaimed 'expert' making unverifiable claims. And I would bet (as my children have proven to me) - their level of advancement by using an iPad and Notebook, has accelerated their learning where my 6 year old is already reading books for 12 year olds. So whatever part of the brain got that happening, can only be contributed to her ability to speed up the process by the use of these. Ditto for her understanding of the material she reads as she can cross reference words and use the online dictionary. Sorry Doc - what a croc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 "so they can use all of their six senses" I am counting and can only find five...but maybe my brain is not grown..... Maybe someone can put this Dr. back in the time machine and send her back where she belongs 1800. Actually, Buddhists hold that there are six senses. Ṣaḍāyatana (Sanskrit) or saḷāyatana (Pāli) means the six sense bases (Pāli, Skt.: āyatana), that is, the sense organs and their objects.These are: Eye and Vision Ear and Hearing Nose and Olfaction Tongue and Taste Skin and Touch Mind and Thought Well she is supposed to be a scientist not a monk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This man is not an expert. His description of the workings of the brain is 100% bulls***t. How can this country develop with so-called 'experts' who would fail high-school in a western country? It's just sad. This man isn't even a man, even less an expert.....she would also fail school in eastern countries like Korea, Japan or Singapore I take it you guys know this woman her qualifications and research studies and also you know everything there is to know about brain development. yes obviously we know about that topic than she does....which is not that difficult with some basic education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Robert Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 so surprise surprise, moderation in everything....simple really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Robert Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 so surprise surprise, moderation in everything....simple really and ...wait for it...technology is a tool, used wisely it can be a creative force, but it can equally be dangerous to the uninitiated...not rocket science is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomtienbob Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 For a country who's 86th out of 114 in terms of development, one would think anything new is better that the current practices 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBobThai Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 The ones who claim to have the knowldge to make decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Robert Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 What a ridiculous article - A proclaimed 'expert' making unverifiable claims. And I would bet (as my children have proven to me) - their level of advancement by using an iPad and Notebook, has accelerated their learning where my 6 year old is already reading books for 12 year olds. So whatever part of the brain got that happening, can only be contributed to her ability to speed up the process by the use of these. Ditto for her understanding of the material she reads as she can cross reference words and use the online dictionary. Sorry Doc - what a croc. yup, right on my astute friend... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancid Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 However reaearch also indicatres Thai childern watching Thai soap operas in the evenings suffer brain apoxia no worse than adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunuel Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 "so they can use all of their six senses" I am counting and can only find five...but maybe my brain is not grown..... Maybe someone can put this Dr. back in the time machine and send her back where she belongs 1800. "so they can use all of their six senses" I am counting and can only find five...but maybe my brain is not grown..... Maybe someone can put this Dr. back in the time machine and send her back where she belongs 1800. Yes, indeed! Better to do away with all those physically-limiting classrooms and brain-numbing textbooks, too. Send the little darlings out to the streets and fields to becone proficient in The School of Hard Knocks and deveope all their senses thanks to heightened awareness caused by fear! Return to the pre-enkightenment and pre-industrial paradise!! :) Classic Luddite reasoning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtPepper Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Six senses! !!!! Sent from my LT22i using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanimaster Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Reading that has given me a headache. I worry for my 4year old. So do I, that's why I a.) Don't let my kids play with the iDevices all the time and b.) am moving the family back to the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanimaster Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Six senses! !!!! Sent from my LT22i using Thaivisa Connect App When you consider adjectives, there are indeed six senses: TASTE - spicy, salty, sweet SMELL - stinky, putrid, fragrant TOUCH - rough, soft, squishy HEARING - loud, booming, silent SIGHT - red, round, big THOUGHT - f__ked up, arrogant, mindless So yes, there are indeed six senses. The sixth sense allows us to describe things based on our thought/opinion. Wouldn't you agree? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Most research and warnings about tablets are based on TV viewing research. A TV is about as interactive as a classroom lecture. Preliminary studies show that touch-screens can motivate and enhance learning instead of hindering it. Creative and problem solving activities in the virtual world can be just as effective as the physical world. Not exactly sure of this but don't you think that it would be better to have a child reason things out before you give him a machine to do it for him. Things like be able to say 2+2=4 without a machine. Also problem solving on a machine makes it seem less real as compared to thinking about it. Another thing is what you say may be true but at what age. A young kid is learning about the world he lives in by exploring it physically. Are you suggesting to just give them a pad at age two and let them learn that way. I have no problem with giving kids a pad but not until they are at least seven years old. Also it is as you say a preliminary study the final answer might be different. Who is paying for the study Apple Hewlet Packard IBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddo Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Dr Chanpen Chooprapawan said 'may create braindamage', such a statement without scientific facts is BULLSHIT...! Obviously she speaks for herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyuk Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Amazing, what are the facts? How many children in Asia have had delayed development due to use of tablet computers?What a load of rubbish. Where were the studies done? How many children had there brain's scanned? Did their parent's agree to these neurological tests. Do the parents have a copy of the results of the test of their child. Is the expert qualified. Has she seen the early reports of success reported by Thai teachers on the I-san that indicate a much increased enthusiasm since using tablets in the classroom. What does she think about the reports from teachers stating that they find themselves motivated by the tablet teaching experiment as well as the children. Does our Lady expert know that at this stage teaching using Tablets as an educational aid has so far been limited in Thailand to one or two lessons per child per week. Did our expert take the extensive experience of teaching with tablets as educational aids in Japan. Has she studied the data accumulated by the Japanese in respect to electronic aids in teaching. Poor Thailand taking tentative steps toward improving the education experience for all Thais whether teacher's or students and some cracked up phony pisses on the dream before anyone in authority has had chance to analyse any operational data. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddo Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Now i know why Thailand scores number 40 on the overall average intelligence quotients in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlandy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Reading that has given me a headache. I worry for my 4year old. And well you might. Thailands education system is the poorest in the region. In terms of English ability it is 54th out of 56 countries in Asia. Their average IQ level is at least 10% lower than 99% of developed country's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This man is not an expert. His description of the workings of the brain is 100% bulls***t. How can this country develop with so-called 'experts' who would fail high-school in a western country? It's just sad. This man is not an expert. His description of the workings of the brain is 100% bulls***t. How can this country develop with so-called 'experts' who would fail high-school in a western country? It's just sad. Perhaps she/he used 3 regions to simplify the understanding. One could not imagine the average Thai population trying to grasp the scientific names of the numerous components/structures of the brain as surely you and I recall from medical college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 What a ridiculous article - A proclaimed 'expert' making unverifiable claims. And I would bet (as my children have proven to me) - their level of advancement by using an iPad and Notebook, has accelerated their learning where my 6 year old is already reading books for 12 year olds. So whatever part of the brain got that happening, can only be contributed to her ability to speed up the process by the use of these. Ditto for her understanding of the material she reads as she can cross reference words and use the online dictionary. Sorry Doc - what a croc. I would venture to take a wild guess and say your childs progress and abilities have a lot to do with their exposure to you and/or other "outside the box" people than to the sole use of any electronic device. What % of Thai children have such exposure? Perhaps a tiny % whose parents lived/studied abroad or some that for some reason are aberrations in society. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Most research and warnings about tablets are based on TV viewing research. A TV is about as interactive as a classroom lecture. Preliminary studies show that touch-screens can motivate and enhance learning instead of hindering it. Creative and problem solving activities in the virtual world can be just as effective as the physical world. Not exactly sure of this but don't you think that it would be better to have a child reason things out before you give him a machine to do it for him. Things like be able to say 2+2=4 without a machine. Also problem solving on a machine makes it seem less real as compared to thinking about it. Another thing is what you say may be true but at what age. A young kid is learning about the world he lives in by exploring it physically. Are you suggesting to just give them a pad at age two and let them learn that way. I have no problem with giving kids a pad but not until they are at least seven years old. Also it is as you say a preliminary study the final answer might be different. Who is paying for the study Apple Hewlet Packard IBM. Lots of good questions. I wish we could discuss them over a beer. Educators, around the world, are struggling to incorporate rapidly advancing technology into their curriculums. The challenge, as you suggest, is where does it make sense and where does it not make sense to use technology in the classroom. And parents of pre-school children have an even more difficult job to make sure their kids are ready for whatever the schools may decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This man is not an expert. His description of the workings of the brain is 100% bulls***t. How can this country develop with so-called 'experts' who would fail high-school in a western country? It's just sad. Dr Changpen is woman and she has been using tablets all her life. Sounds like she should try some different ones - maybe Vicodin or even Tamazapan...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 an expert that did not get his cut of the tablet for schools deal ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 (edited) Most research and warnings about tablets are based on TV viewing research. A TV is about as interactive as a classroom lecture. Preliminary studies show that touch-screens can motivate and enhance learning instead of hindering it. Creative and problem solving activities in the virtual world can be just as effective as the physical world. Not exactly sure of this but don't you think that it would be better to have a child reason things out before you give him a machine to do it for him. Things like be able to say 2+2=4 without a machine. Also problem solving on a machine makes it seem less real as compared to thinking about it. Another thing is what you say may be true but at what age. A young kid is learning about the world he lives in by exploring it physically. Are you suggesting to just give them a pad at age two and let them learn that way. I have no problem with giving kids a pad but not until they are at least seven years old. Also it is as you say a preliminary study the final answer might be different. Who is paying for the study Apple Hewlet Packard IBM. Lots of good questions. I wish we could discuss them over a beer. Educators, around the world, are struggling to incorporate rapidly advancing technology into their curriculums. The challenge, as you suggest, is where does it make sense and where does it not make sense to use technology in the classroom. And parents of pre-school children have an even more difficult job to make sure their kids are ready for whatever the schools may decide. Yes it is really some thing that is tough to discuss on a forum. In my opinion the pad's and all the other electronic gizmos that they will be coming up with should be used. I how ever feel that there use should be brought in gradually. Studies really mean nothing unless they are taken with a open mind. I believe that the physiology (mental) field should be allowed a voice in the decision. It has been many years since I took Phycology but I do remember some thing about the brain taking time to become mature. I believe it was around seven years old. edit Just had a slight change of attitude. Maybe pre school would be OK provided it was just games and a introduction to the gizmos. So when they are introduced as teaching aid's they would not be that big of a transition to make. Sorry about the spelling but my spell checker dosen't work much better than my spelling mind. 555 Edited September 6, 2012 by hellodolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 According to her, a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan shows three parts of human brain. A Nobel gong awaits her for that discovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 . This "expert" has her head up her bum. 'Dr' of what I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 This man is not an expert. His description of the workings of the brain is 100% bulls***t. How can this country develop with so-called 'experts' who would fail high-school in a western country? It's just sad. Maybe I'm spending too much tie in front of a computer but I keep reading the OP and it clearly states the doctor in question is a "she". As it's reported it doesn't make much sense. No one activity will use all of the brain so if you spend a majority of your time in front of a tablet then it will be detrimental but I'm assuming that's not the idea behind them. It will also depend on what you are doing with the tablet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 A different approach. 2012-09-04 "Estonia to teach programming in schools from age 6 With the launch of the Raspberry Pi, computers are becoming affordable again for the younger generations. Now what we need is kids learning about computers in greater detail, including what the hardware is inside the box, and how to create rather than just use software." http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/estonia-to-teach-programming-in-schools-from-age-6-2012094/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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