webfact Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 AVIATION THAI fined A$7.5 mn for trade violation The Nation BANGKOK: -- Thai Airways International has paid the 7.5 million Australian dollar penalty to the Australian government, for breaching the Trade Practices Act 1974. In a statement to the Stock Exchange of Thailand, the airline said that it already used reserve to pay for the 7.5 million pecuniary penalty as well as the legal proceeding cost of 500,000 Australian dollars, as ordered by the Federal Court in Sydney. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) launched the investigation on October 28, 2009. It subsequently filed the lawsuit for violating the law. As part of the settlement, Thai Airways admitted to engaging in price-fixing for a fuel surcharge, security surcharge and customs fee for the carriage of freight from Indonesia to Australia. The court’s decision comes a week after the Federal Court hit Singapore Airlines Cargo and Cathay Pacific Airways with $23 million in penalties for similar conduct. Thai Airways became the 13th international airline to admit to engaging in cartel conduct.ACCC chairman Rod Sims said the $98.5 million in penalties already ordered by the court was the biggest arising from a single ACCC investigation. The ACCC’s trial against Air New Zealand and Garuda Indonesia continues before Justice Perram in the Federal Court in Sydney. -- The Nation 2012-12-17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supaprik Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 wonderful.....now Thai Air have an excuse to up prices and serve meals in plastic boxes, get rid of our wine glases and lovely cerated edged cutlery up the front of the plane as well!!! bugger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psmiller Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Do you think Thai will be serving Australian wine in Business class? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonOz Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 There's next year's profit down the pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrico2 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 wonderful.....now Thai Air have an excuse to up prices and serve meals in plastic boxes, get rid of our wine glases and lovely cerated edged cutlery up the front of the plane as well!!! bugger! WOW, you are a bit ahead of facts, arent' you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 There's next year's profit down the pan. Profits? What profits? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 A Thai company involved in price collusion???? Cannot be!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WilliaminBKK Posted December 17, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2012 Rather than turn this into a TG bash fest. TG is one of 13 carriers so far to have engaged in this cargo practice and there is more to come, I commend OZ for being so diligent protecting consumers & cargo forwarders. When the UK/US/CA/EU start to take the same action & dig deep into this fuel surcharge money grab lots of carriers are going to be in hot water not only cargo but passengers. (Keep your tickets copy's for all air travel ) As for the offence, let's turn back the clocks. Every bean counter from every airline globally was learning about the "new fuel surcharge" revenue stream $20 $50 $100 $200 $300 - let's test the market and see what sticks. The news makes it sound like they sat around a table and fixed prices rates when in fact they simply were following one another, fares and rates are filed so it is fairly simple to copy each other. I'm sure the bean counters involved are not having a good day, however the 7.5 million is only a drop in the bucket. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksharron Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Who will go to jail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Rather than turn this into a TG bash fest. TG is one of 13 carriers so far to have engaged in this cargo practice and there is more to come, I commend OZ for being so diligent protecting consumers & cargo forwarders. When the UK/US/CA/EU start to take the same action & dig deep into this fuel surcharge money grab lots of carriers are going to be in hot water not only cargo but passengers. (Keep your tickets copy's for all air travel ) As for the offence, let's turn back the clocks. Every bean counter from every airline globally was learning about the "new fuel surcharge" revenue stream $20 $50 $100 $200 $300 - let's test the market and see what sticks. The news makes it sound like they sat around a table and fixed prices rates when in fact they simply were following one another, fares and rates are filed so it is fairly simple to copy each other. I'm sure the bean counters involved are not having a good day, however the 7.5 million is only a drop in the bucket. Apparently some of the other airlines accused or who have admitted their guilt in this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_fixing_cases#Airlines) which so far has resulted in 100-Million in fines ... Qantas, British Airways, Singapore Airlines ($23-million fine) Air France, KLM, Martinair Holland, Cargolux, Cathay Pacific ($23-million fine), Emirates ($10.3-million fine), PT Garuda Indonesia, Korean Air, Malaysian Airline ($6-million fine) , Japan Airlines, Air New Zealand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliaminBKK Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Rather than turn this into a TG bash fest. TG is one of 13 carriers so far to have engaged in this cargo practice and there is more to come, I commend OZ for being so diligent protecting consumers & cargo forwarders. When the UK/US/CA/EU start to take the same action & dig deep into this fuel surcharge money grab lots of carriers are going to be in hot water not only cargo but passengers. (Keep your tickets copy's for all air travel ) As for the offence, let's turn back the clocks. Every bean counter from every airline globally was learning about the "new fuel surcharge" revenue stream $20 $50 $100 $200 $300 - let's test the market and see what sticks. The news makes it sound like they sat around a table and fixed prices rates when in fact they simply were following one another, fares and rates are filed so it is fairly simple to copy each other. I'm sure the bean counters involved are not having a good day, however the 7.5 million is only a drop in the bucket. Apparently some of the other airlines accused or who have admitted their guilt in this (http://en.wikipedia...._cases#Airlines) which so far has resulted in 100-Million in fines ... Qantas, British Airways, Singapore Airlines ($23-million fine) Air France, KLM, Martinair Holland, Cargolux, Cathay Pacific ($23-million fine), Emirates ($10.3-million fine), PT Garuda Indonesia, Korean Air, Malaysian Airline ($6-million fine) , Japan Airlines, Air New Zealand Those who admitted their guilt decided to pull the band aid off quickly-good for them. There are many more who are still trying to sort the mess out as their local anti-trust rules would then apply if found guilty abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nokbird Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) THAI is o used to being unaccountable. Opps. Don't you hate those countries that don't sell their justice system to blatant corruption Just had a look at the THAI site, BKK - SYD- BKK 78,000B Nuff said, Tell em Ya Kidding Edited December 17, 2012 by nokbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nisa Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) There's next year's profit down the pan.Profits? What profits?They announced a few days ago they expect a $23 Million profit this year (not great considering they initially hoped for near 200 Mill profit) and have to believe this is also after the fine since they likely would have known about it and the story indicates they already paid it. Up until the last few years they actually had a great run of things recording 40 years of straight profits. Edited December 17, 2012 by Nisa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsw53 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Thai Airways became the 13th international airline to admit to engaging in cartel conduct. What is a cartel ? Those nice oil producing countries who fix the international selling price of the thing that keeps these greedy airlines flying, would never get invloved in that sort of activity ? I feel sorry for Thai Airways, even with this they only managed to make USD 10m after tax. They should put a levy on people coming from OPEC countries, they can afford it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post skorchio Posted December 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2012 Rather than turn this into a TG bash fest. TG is one of 13 carriers so far to have engaged in this cargo practice and there is more to come, I commend OZ for being so diligent protecting consumers & cargo forwarders. When the UK/US/CA/EU start to take the same action & dig deep into this fuel surcharge money grab lots of carriers are going to be in hot water not only cargo but passengers. (Keep your tickets copy's for all air travel ) As for the offence, let's turn back the clocks. Every bean counter from every airline globally was learning about the "new fuel surcharge" revenue stream $20 $50 $100 $200 $300 - let's test the market and see what sticks. The news makes it sound like they sat around a table and fixed prices rates when in fact they simply were following one another, fares and rates are filed so it is fairly simple to copy each other. I'm sure the bean counters involved are not having a good day, however the 7.5 million is only a drop in the bucket. Exactly. The usual merry-go-round claptrap from those who generally don't have enough to do in a day ... 'typical Thai business practices...what profits....that'll teach them .....' when the article clearly states 12 other carriers (including everyone's darling airline SQ) have already been charged and a further few 'flag' carriers are in the dock. This is how large companies do business in the international arena. To take the stance that only Thai Airways would stoop so low is both naive and ignorant. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 paid the 7.5 million Australian dollar penalty to the Australian government So the Australian government, on behalf of the Australian people, has the money, but did they suffer any losses though the airlines wrongdoing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borabora1 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Do you think Thai will be serving Australian wine in Business class? Maybe yes... After all, they've go the lowest fine compared to their competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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