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What Are The Odds Of Obama Making A Second Term Without Being Impeached?

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Maybe Obama will get impeached after all.

At least four career officials at the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency have retained lawyers or are in the process of doing so, as they prepare to provide sensitive information about the Benghazi attacks to Congress, Fox News has learned.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/29/obama-administration-officials-have-threatened-whistle-blowers-on-benghazi/#ixzz2Rway7iNP

More from a left wing British paper!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/08/benghazi-congressional-hearing-live-blog

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What's obvious to me is whenever the democrats get caught with their hands in the cookie jar; the republicans are accused of playing politics

It's a nothing. Crocodile tears from republicans over a few American dead. The same crew that don't give a fig that hundreds of thousands Americans die every year due to their continued war on the AMERICAN poor.

http://chieforganizer.org/2011/07/06/new-study-poverty-kills/

Much of this comes down to the question of equity. The inability to
make sure that there are equitable educational opportunities, health
access, basic community services, support for children, elderly,
differently able, and the mentally unstable, stress, unhealthy behavior
and diet, and the list goes on, and there’s no pretending anymore, if
nothing is done, it kills people. Lots of people! 874000 deaths in
2000 might be over a 1,000,000 deaths today!

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the winds are blowing and Obama is being exposed daily for his failures and miss steps,he has run out of people to pander to so now all that is left is to deflect and hide. he will not go down in history as a great president and the odds are getting better that he will not leave office without being impeached.

The first American Ambassador murdered in more than 30 years is far from "nothing". t9409.gif

It's a nothing.

The first American Ambassador murdered in more than 30 years is far from "nothing". t9409.gif

It's a nothing.

I think you know perfectly well this is political theater to damage Hillary. If you've got something to impeach Obama related to this, go for it. You have NOTHING.

I know perfectly well that if Hillary was involved in a cover-up - and I believe that she was - she should be punished for it and that goes for Obama too. Despite threatening and demoting diplomats who want to tell the truth, the evidence is mounting day by day.

It would seem NOT Fox news is finally waking up. This is from ABC News and is damning of the State Department and its leadership.

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Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference
By Jonathan Karl
May 10, 2013 6:33am
When it became clear last fall that the CIA’s now discredited Benghazi talking points were flawed, the White House said repeatedly the documents were put together almost entirely by the intelligence community, but White House documents reviewed by Congress suggest a different story.
ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.
White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department. The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.
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Following is a link to a PDF file that details the rewrite process in its entirety.

I'm not the only one wondering why Obama and Clinton were not interviewed by the Accountability Review Board.

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Internal Benghazi Review Ignored Clinton, Obama
by KEITH KOFFLER on MAY 9, 2013, 9:39 AM
The internal State Department Accountability Review Board report being touted by the White House as an “unsparing” investigation into the Benghazi response actually completely spared the two individuals whose actions Republicans want to know about most: President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
There is no mention in the report of the what Clinton or Obama did related to Benghazi. In fact, Obama isn’t mentioned at all in the document, and Clinton only once – in the context of her appointing the Review Board. There is no suggestion that Clinton or Obama were interviewed or even examined by the investigation.

The first American Ambassador murdered in more than 30 years is far from "nothing". t9409.gif

It's a nothing.

I think you know perfectly well this is political theater to damage Hillary. If you've got something to impeach Obama related to this, go for it. You have NOTHING.

This investigation is far from over. It literally screams for a Congressional Special Prosecutor to be appointed.

The first American Ambassador murdered in more than 30 years is far from "nothing". t9409.gif

It's a nothing.

I think you know perfectly well this is political theater to damage Hillary. If you've got something to impeach Obama related to this, go for it. You have NOTHING.

This investigation is far from over. It literally screams for a Congressional Special Prosecutor to be appointed.

Someone is screaming. Fox News I reckon. This is getting tedious. Rome is burning and the wacky right wing is obsessed with political games.

The first American Ambassador murdered in more than 30 years is far from "nothing". t9409.gif

I think you know perfectly well this is political theater to damage Hillary. If you've got something to impeach Obama related to this, go for it. You have NOTHING.

This investigation is far from over. It literally screams for a Congressional Special Prosecutor to be appointed.

Someone is screaming. Fox News I reckon. This is getting tedious. Rome is burning and the wacky right wing is obsessed with political games.

Fox News might be screaming at somebody but it certainly isn't me. As I have told you more times than I can remember, I do not have Fox News and haven't had for over five years.

For the record, I have True Vision Gold Package that provides me with CNN International, BBC, Bloomberg, CNBC and some Thai news casts.

Rome (DC) is burning and it would seem Obama is continuing his Nero act of fiddling around.

The truth is finally coming out about the Benghazi scandal and it is not just Fox News covering it anymore. It looks like Hillary will be damaged as the truth surfaces more and more about the dishonest coverup and so will Barack Obama. Jay Carney is taking the brunt of the anger of the press for now,

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I am starting to wonder if the groups that were at one time considered on " the edge", "fringe" and "minority" are now the power brokers in the US political game of thrones. The Clintons pandered to them and HRC was almost as popular as richard simons, Obama has pandered to them with the dream of living without personal accoutability or financial responsibility to the extent that these groups become enraged by the mere mention of fiscal responsibility. One out of every Seven families is now recieving free food (food stamps) in the USA today. IMO the danger of having so many families using the government for extended periods of time is the transition from temporary to full time dependence. Is this Obama's way of buying support? Free food, Free Meds, Free education and free housing? How much money would a job need to pay to replace the free govt. benefits? Obama and his teams inability to put Americans back to work is changing the landscape of the american psych. 4 more years of increased handouts may be what secures the white house for the next liberal with more handout program. One axiom is true; sooner or later we have to pay the piper, then what happens? Impeaching Obama and returning the country to a work mentality is the healthiest choice.

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This is the nightmare that the UK is currently enduring.

There are many families where currently the third generation is being brought up on benefits. Neither the grandparents nor the parents have worked, so what chance do the kids have?

When Britain started on the path of a welfare state, it was to be a temporary safety net for people between jobs. (The NHS, although a main plank of the welfare state, was not part of this benefits thinking). The scheme now embraces single mothers, both those who have not married and those who have lost their partner through divorce, desertion or death, physically and mentally disabled who choose to live in the community on their own, or with partners, whereas previously there were hospital facilities for life-long care, long- and short-term unemployed, pensioners, asylum seekers, immigrants (a small minority) and so on. I reckon that probably one in three of the population receives benefit cash in one form or another - maybe more.

This has to be paid for. It is financed by the taxes of those in work and the enterprises that employ the workers. That is it. The government itself does not make money, it just redistributes it. Thus, the more that is used to prop up those not in gainful work, the more has to be taken from the workers / producers of wealth. This is not sustainable at the present rates of growth of welfare. (Yes, I know that the Prime Minister and Chancellor say that they are cutting back on welfare, but that is yet another political lie. The uncontrollable monster is growing as fat as the young women of the UK).

Cut back the unemployment to a maximum of 26 weeks in five years, cut support for unmarried mothers, cut the child allowance and cut whatever else is within reach. It's the only way to claw back the mountain of debt we currently service.

This is the nightmare that the UK is currently enduring.

There are many families where currently the third generation is being brought up on benefits. Neither the grandparents nor the parents have worked, so what chance do the kids have?

When Britain started on the path of a welfare state, it was to be a temporary safety net for people between jobs. (The NHS, although a main plank of the welfare state, was not part of this benefits thinking). The scheme now embraces single mothers, both those who have not married and those who have lost their partner through divorce, desertion or death, physically and mentally disabled who choose to live in the community on their own, or with partners, whereas previously there were hospital facilities for life-long care, long- and short-term unemployed, pensioners, asylum seekers, immigrants (a small minority) and so on. I reckon that probably one in three of the population receives benefit cash in one form or another - maybe more.

This has to be paid for. It is financed by the taxes of those in work and the enterprises that employ the workers. That is it. The government itself does not make money, it just redistributes it. Thus, the more that is used to prop up those not in gainful work, the more has to be taken from the workers / producers of wealth. This is not sustainable at the present rates of growth of welfare. (Yes, I know that the Prime Minister and Chancellor say that they are cutting back on welfare, but that is yet another political lie. The uncontrollable monster is growing as fat as the young women of the UK).

Cut back the unemployment to a maximum of 26 weeks in five years, cut support for unmarried mothers, cut the child allowance and cut whatever else is within reach. It's the only way to claw back the mountain of debt we currently service.

Agreed, except for one point. The Government DOES make money; it prints more when it needs it, thus putting more pressure on a currency which is already having trouble keeping its head above water.

OK, I should have said 'creating wealth' rather than 'making money'.

But you knew bloody well what I meant. biggrin.png

As this is an Obama-bashing thread, have you seen today's Daily Telegraph (UK version)

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100215856/barack-obamas-top-ten-insults-against-britain-2013-edition/

For the past three years I have published a list of Barack Obama’s biggest insults (including those of his administration) against America’s foremost ally, Great Britain, during his time in office. Here is an updated list to accompany President Obama’s meeting with David Cameron at the White House today. The major additions this year are the snubbing of Lady Thatcher’s funeral by the Obama administration, as well as attempts by senior allies of President Obama in the Senate to hold up a resolution honouring the Iron Lady. In addition, the Obama presidency has further entrenched its pro-Argentine position on the Falklands, and has also lectured Britain on its Europe policy, warning the UK against leaving the European Union, in a blatant attempt to influence an internal British public debate.

With the AP scandal hitting the news (that is 3 major scandals at one time) getting rid of Obama seems a lot more likely. Now he has screwed the media and they know that he lied about Benghazi. Things are looking good for Joe Biden as he might end up with the president's job and Hillary's credibility is in the gutter too.

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

It's all just a game to you isn't it? You don't really care what laws get broken or who who dies in what war from whatever country do you? You call yourself a liberal but you're just a groupie.

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

Isn't that what everybody said in 2007? How did that one work out for Hillary?

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

It's all just a game to you isn't it? You don't really care what laws get broken or who who dies in what war from whatever country do you? You call yourself a liberal but you're just a groupie.

You're naive. Obama did nothing illegal. This is all about right wing politics. Demonize Obama. Damage Hillary. They don't care about governing the country. They care only about forwarding their radical ideology which cares NOTHING about poor people in America. Four people died? Sad. How many thousands Americans die EVERY DAY because of the war on the poor in America led by republicans. Why are those four more sacred? They are not! Obama didn't kill them! They act like he did. An ENEMY force did.

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

Isn't that what everybody said in 2007? How did that one work out for Hillary?

I think you guys are tripping. There is no smoking gun and you will never find a smoking gun. So a document was EDITED!?! That is not a scandal. That is NORMAL. Who killed the four? Did Obama kill the four? Did Hillary kill the four? Why not get back to the business of governing America instead of spending all the right wing energy on these partisan games?

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

It's all just a game to you isn't it? You don't really care what laws get broken or who who dies in what war from whatever country do you? You call yourself a liberal but you're just a groupie.

Liberal nowadays doesn't mean what it used to. Modern Liberals are often neo-Stalinist in their attitude to differing opinions. Morality and values have been discarded like old socks to make way for a strict set menu of ideological dogma. Indeed screwing the conservatives is far more important to them than reversing the tailspin their policies have sent civilization into.

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

It's all just a game to you isn't it? You don't really care what laws get broken or who who dies in what war from whatever country do you? You call yourself a liberal but you're just a groupie.

You're naive. Obama did nothing illegal. This is all about right wing politics. Demonize Obama. Damage Hillary. They don't care about governing the country. They care only about forwarding their radical ideology which cares NOTHING about poor people in America. Four people died? Sad. How many thousands Americans die EVERY DAY because of the war on the poor in America led by republicans. Why are those four more sacred? They are not! Obama didn't kill them! They act like he did. An ENEMY force did.

Are you saying that thousands of poor Americans are dying every day?

And OBAMA is President?

Jeez, what an evil man he must be.

More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

It's all just a game to you isn't it? You don't really care what laws get broken or who who dies in what war from whatever country do you? You call yourself a liberal but you're just a groupie.

You're naive. Obama did nothing illegal. This is all about right wing politics. Demonize Obama. Damage Hillary. They don't care about governing the country. They care only about forwarding their radical ideology which cares NOTHING about poor people in America. Four people died? Sad. How many thousands Americans die EVERY DAY because of the war on the poor in America led by republicans. Why are those four more sacred? They are not! Obama didn't kill them! They act like he did. An ENEMY force did.

Are you saying that thousands of poor Americans are dying every day?

And OBAMA is President?

Jeez, what an evil man he must be.

You realize how the government works, right? Senate (need 60 votes now), Congress (overrun with right wing lunatics).

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More likely? From .0000001 percent to .0000002 percent?

It's all just a game to you isn't it? You don't really care what laws get broken or who who dies in what war from whatever country do you? You call yourself a liberal but you're just a groupie.

You're naive. Obama did nothing illegal. This is all about right wing politics. Demonize Obama. Damage Hillary. They don't care about governing the country. They care only about forwarding their radical ideology which cares NOTHING about poor people in America. Four people died? Sad. How many thousands Americans die EVERY DAY because of the war on the poor in America led by republicans. Why are those four more sacred? They are not! Obama didn't kill them! They act like he did. An ENEMY force did.

You're wrong. He's CONSTANTLY doing illegal things, but rather than judge him for it you throw out these meaningless moral equivalency arguments. It's indicative of you not having any core values or principles yourself save being a sycophantic, toady groupie.. You think yourself sophisticated in the enlightened sense but in fact you are sophisticated in the unnatural and corrupted sense..You are so glued to daily news bites and spin bullshit you don't see the big picture of what is happening in front of your own eyes. This man is changing your country in ways no one before him ever has.

Some people in the government edited some talking points papers in response to an ENEMY attack on Americans. Obama must go! What are you people smoking! I think you really believe you've got him. You have nothing because there is nothing to get. Get over the Obama demonization. It ain't healthy.

Obama is a very good president trying to operate with a shockingly irresponsible opposition. The worst ever.

LB, you oppose Obama and you want what to replace him? The republicans? Those are the choices. Not some pie in sky thing you think is possible because it ain't.

The U.S. system and constitution is theoretically great but something has gone horribly wrong in the implementation, and that something is NOT Obama.

Some people in the government edited some talking points papers in response to an ENEMY attack on Americans. Obama must go! What are you people smoking! I think you really believe you've got him. You have nothing because there is nothing to get. Get over the Obama demonization. It ain't healthy.

Obama is a very good president trying to operate with a shockingly irresponsible opposition. The worst ever.

LB, you oppose Obama and you want what to replace him? The republicans? Those are the choices. Not some pie in sky thing you think is possible because it ain't.

The U.S. system and constitution is theoretically great but something has gone horribly wrong in the implementation, and that something is NOT Obama.

It's like your ass is bought and paid for. I don't base what I want to see by what's on offer. I start with what I want based on my core convictions. On what's morally and ethically right despite what is practiced or common. That's what i teach my children and that's what i try to do. If all of what's on offer is deletarious I choose neither. I don't cheer on the one I perceive is killing me in a kinder gentler fashion. That's a sucker's game.

That thing you mention, that has gone horribly wrong is the input and oversight of the citizenry. The government, any government, now feels it has carte blanche to do whatever they please. The internet rant has replaced the protest and they like that just fine. I don't exclude myself, but I'm changing that. I may go down, but I'll go down swinging. But not yesterday, because I beat a radar traffic ticket in court. I'm not much of a joiner but I'll be marching with placards soon.

Again, pie in the sky.

It's republicans vs. democrats. Period.

If that changes and there is something better that has any chance of not helping the republicans, let me know.

Yes I hate the republican party to the very core of my being.

Well I didn't always. Not back in Rockefeller days. But that is all gone now. They are all radical extremists now.

I don't love the democrats anywhere near to that intensity.

But I think there is no other choice and I think any fair view of real politics will tell anyone the same.

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