Judicial investigations relating to a prisoner of war shall be conducted as rapidly as circumstances permit and so that his trial shall take place as soon as possible.

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In no circumstances shall this confinement exceed three months.

Which part didn't you understand, Spee?

(This is regarding them as PoWs, which you seem to persist on regardless of what the US gov classifies them as, or any info posted here)

You're the one with the comprehension problem!

POWs are not entitled to a judicial investigation just because they are POWs. Only POWs who are being charged with a war crime are entitled to this sort of due process.

Any other POW is just that, a prisoner. No entitlements. No nothing beyond the basics of food, water, freedom to pray, etc.

Why you have no room in your feeble mind for such a simple concept is beyond me!

Unfortunately - the detainees at Gitmo are considered enemy combatants and are not considered Prisoners of War, so the above does not apply, nor does the Geneva Convention for that matter.

How come brit is the only poster here making sense?

What's with all the 'Bleeding Hearts' these days...

Honestly here is a logical solution, seriously conduct a military tribunal for those worthy of such an event. If found guilty then imprison or death penalty.

Other detainee(s) who are innocent or not worthy of a trial I'd give back to the Afghanistan/Iraq authorities since those countries are the ones that were ultimately underminded by the detainee(s) behaviour. (dare say they will be worse off when that happens)

Unfortunately - the detainees at Gitmo are considered enemy combatants and are not considered Prisoners of War, so the above does not apply, nor does the Geneva Convention for that matter.

How come brit is the only poster here making sense?

What's with all the 'Bleeding Hearts' these days...

That's funny, when I pointed this (the official US) position out to you, you had a fit and accused me of trolling.

You've got to make your mind up, decide whether they are PoWs or not and retract some of your earlier statements, preferably with attached apologies.

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Other detainee(s) who are innocent or not worthy of a trial I'd give back to the Afghanistan/Iraq authorities since those countries are the ones that were ultimately underminded by the detainee(s) behaviour. (dare say they will be worse off when that happens)

Is this where they were obtained from in the first place, the Afghanistan/Iraq authorities?

And the behavior of the innocents "underminded" those countries?

Honestly, this easily qualifies as the most ignorant comment I've read on this subject for a long time.

yeah... you got it there actually... Why not stick 'em all on a plane with the bush admin flying the thing, and send 'em straight into the sears tower or something...????

No more Skyscrapers - let's have a mosque instead!!!

How about Hebrew Temples??

Gun's gone now....

LaoPo

LOL! Nice arse... Who´s?

Give all the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay a choice.

I would prefer another choice. Walk them all out to the beach. Point them in the direction of home and say "You are free to go. If we see anything other than your back from this point on, you will be shot and killed." (Yes obviously I'm being sarcastic and not serious.)

(snip)

There are two ways to initiate change, Evolution or Revolution. Neither comes without risk. They chose revolution. Now let them live with their choice. And the US (admin) chose Devolution

(snip)

POW's are soldiers in uniform captured during battle, some of the Gitmo detainees were just kidnapped from countries miles away from the war zone on suspision of being involved, under that logic 1/2 the CIA and most of the Bush Admin could be kidnapped and incarcerated indefinately

You are correct!!

Thanks, actually I'm begining to think that most of the Bush Admin could be kidnapped and incarcerated indefinately is starting to sound like a good idea

You have to have the means and not lot of countries have that ability, so its a non-starter in reality.

Only Israel (but that´s a non starter for obvious reasons) or England´s SAS maybe.... What about the Guatemalan Kaibil? THey´d have to do it anonymoously of course, lest Guatemala get absolutely flattened... Which is fine by me, but I hope they destroy the bar next door, and not the Maktub´ar

but we can live in hope

Aye... that we can...

Honestly, this easily qualifies as the most ignorant comment I've read on this subject for a long time.

Zzap - It's ok mate I understand the truth is hard for you to accept, I've understood that from you long ago!

Gun's gone now....

LaoPo

LOL! Nice arse... Who´s?

Not sure, but pussy is certainly enjoying it

LaoPo

Not sure, but pussy is certainly enjoying it

LaoPo

Well, if it is a Thai girl's arse, the poor little kitty could be in for a nasty surprise if she decides to cut one loose !

Not sure, but pussy is certainly enjoying it

LaoPo

Well, if it is a Thai girl's arse, the poor little kitty could be in for a nasty surprise if she decides to cut one loose !

Do Thai girl's farts smell worse than other peoples?

Not sure, but pussy is certainly enjoying it

LaoPo

Well, if it is a Thai girl's arse, the poor little kitty could be in for a nasty surprise if she decides to cut one loose !

Do Thai girl's farts smell worse than other peoples?

I hope I'll never know the answer to that !

Honestly, this easily qualifies as the most ignorant comment I've read on this subject for a long time.

Zzap - It's ok mate I understand the truth is hard for you to accept, I've understood that from you long ago!

It's hard to see any link between the 'truth' and your post I commented on. An ad hominem doesn't make your last comment any more intelligent or intelligible.

Other detainee(s) who are innocent or not worthy of a trial I'd give back to the Afghanistan/Iraq authorities since those countries are the ones that were ultimately underminded by the detainee(s) behaviour. (dare say they will be worse off when that happens)

What utter nonsense!

It's you who needs to accept the truth: "The WSJ reports that of the 505 detainees held in Guantánamo, 100 or more are from Saudi Arabia, about 80 are from Yemen, about 65 are from Pakistan and about 50 are from Afghanistan. Two detainees are from Syria." Some of those have been abducted in Egypt, for example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay#Statistics

And since when or why need innocents be turned over to Afghanistan/Iraq authorities?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay#Statistics

And since when or why need innocents be turned over to Afghanistan/Iraq authorities?

decent link 'zzap' ...just looked at some of the ages of these so called combatants. 14 and 15 years old???

Unfortunately - the detainees at Gitmo are considered enemy combatants and are not considered Prisoners of War, so the above does not apply, nor does the Geneva Convention for that matter.

Yeah, human rights only apply to the 'good ones'.

Just why do US neo-cons hate freedom and liberty so much?

I blame the 'liberals' for allowing this breed, and the religious fanatics, to fester during the last 30 years.

Sometimes you just have to put your foot down and stop the raving loonies.

Well, it's too late now...

I blame the 'liberals' Sometimes you just have to put your foot down and stop the raving loonies.

Great post zzap!

I blame the 'liberals' Sometimes you just have to put your foot down and stop the raving loonies.

Great post zzap!

Seconded!

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/detain...csrt/index.html

Over 5000 pages that has been forced to be handed out to the public now by an federal judge.

So now you can read the storys yourselfs.

Like the British Feroz Ali Abbas who was demanding to be considered an POW, but the administration (ofcourse) refused.

I'm guessing Spee is going to write his congressman and demand they start labeling them all as POWs soon? No?

I'm guessing Spee is going to write his congressman and demand they start labeling them all as POWs soon? No?

The boy has gone all quiet on this subject.

I'm guessing Spee is going to write his congressman and demand they start labeling them all as POWs soon? No?

The boy has gone all quiet on this subject.

He is probably crying somewhere under his bed

I'm guessing Spee is going to write his congressman and demand they start labeling them all as POWs soon? No?

The boy has gone all quiet on this subject.

He is probably crying somewhere under his bed

Butterfly usually cries under his momma's bed instead.

I'm guessing Spee is going to write his congressman and demand they start labeling them all as POWs soon? No?

The boy has gone all quiet on this subject.

He is probably crying somewhere under his bed

Butterfly usually cries under his momma's bed instead.

After getting his ass kicked again by an American Kung-Foo newbie?

Still waiting for Spee to respond to a few comments, rubbing the facts in.

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

Tell ya what...if he looks anything like his idol, Jean Claude Van Damme, this is priceless!

If that's not enough pain for you for one day, then click here. .

And finally, if you are not already in the bathroom with uncontrollable vomiting, then I suggest you click here to induce...

Whatever music he is listening to, I hope that I never hear it.

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

Tell ya what...if he looks anything like his idol, Jean Claude Van Damme, this is priceless!

If that's not enough pain for you for one day, then click here. .

And finally, if you are not already in the bathroom with uncontrollable vomiting, then I suggest you click here to induce...

Whatever music he is listening to, I hope that I never hear it.

So, sbk, was right. Spandex is back.

Makes me really look forward to doing some funky wobbling in Pattaya this August.

That is if the sewage system can take the overload.

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

Actually this is true.

It is street wisdom that is not worth getting in a fight with a nutcase - they are too wacky to know when they are getting their butt's kicked - and from the way that Butterfly gets knocked into the ground on TV, but never seems to realize it, he certainly qualifies.

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

and from the way that Butterfly gets knocked into the ground on TV, but never seems to realize it, he certainly qualifies.

Who needs Comedy Central when you have Porkie on board

Butterfly[/b]' date='2006-03-06 09:37:43' post='667723']

Who needs Comedy Central when you have Porkie on board

Who needs One Flew Over the Cukoos Nest when the Bull Goose Looney is right here.

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

Obviously you confused Tornado with Butterfy, no worries about Butterfy he's a wolf without any teeth.

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

no worries about Butterfy he's a wolf without any teeth.

That's exactly what I thought!

Never mind how you guys evaluate Butterfly's combat skills, you'd shut your mouths if you'd ever met the guy...

Obviously you confused Tornado with Butterfy, no worries about Butterfy he's a wolf without any teeth.

zzap seems to be enamored with him though!

BTW - where is zzap these days?