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Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems as though the ink cartridges that come with new printers have very little ink in them. I don't think I printed more then 20 pages and I was out of ink. I had them refilled but still get very few pages.

I just bought a new OEM HP cartridge with the hope that I'll actually get the number of pages listed in the technical description of the cartridge then I'll have it refilled from this point on. I ain't shelling out 500+ baht on new cartridges every time I run out of ink.

Does anyone else think the cartridges in the new printers are of lower capacity? I noticed that the serial numbers on the original cartridge and the new OEM cartridge I just bought are different. ermm.gif

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The cartridge that comes with a new printer is the smaller version, buy full size then do as you suggest and get them refilled

That is correct. Yet anothr way for the printer manufacturers to gain every cent they can
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It's a sort of loss leader attraction; cheap printers but expensive ink cartridges.

You can easily find your way around refills.

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OK, so it's not just my imagination. Thanks for the feedback.

You should inquire if the printer you bought is suitable to fit ink tanks.

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The best way around this Scam by the Printer producers,is to buy a printer with the potential for a ink Tank conversion,which most Computer shops can do.They install the plastic pipework with external large bottles of ink,which you can also refill by bought bottles of ink.

Last time I seen a Computer shop selling the kit,install and full up with Black and coloured ink it was 2,000 bahts,but of course you have to buy a new printer,if yours can't be converted. once you paid out initially,you can forget about expensive cartridges.And you can forget about refills for a couple of years,unless you are printing high volume sheets.

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...and whenever you print, set the print preference to 'fast draft' quality. You still get a very acceptable document. I think that ink use is reduced by 70%

If however you are printing pictures, then ink tank is the way to go. AA

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...and whenever you print, set the print preference to 'fast draft' quality. You still get a very acceptable document. I think that ink use is reduced by 70%

If however you are printing pictures, then ink tank is the way to go. AA

I have to agree with that, I have bad experiences printing pictures from external tanks, the colours don't last.

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While a person may think just from the physical size of many ink cartridges that they should have enough ink in them to print quite a few pages. Ever noticed how many black ink cartridges may say they hold around 10ml but you think to yourself the size of that cartridge should hold more than 10ml?

Well, if you open that cartridge (like I've done) you will most likely see the space occupied by sponge material which keeps the ink in suspension and which keeps the ink for sloshing around while the print-head/cartridge zips back and forth while printing...but at the same time that sponge material takes away a lot of the raw ink volume/capacity which ends up limiting the volume to around 10ml of ink. And when you are dealing with 3 colors cartridges/print-heads which may only contain approx 3ml per color (9ml for the entire cartridge) and have that sponge material inside also, a person just don't get a lot of prints per 3ml or 9/10ml.

A person can go broke buying replacement ink cartridges...but you are making the printer manufacturer a rich man in buying all those expensive cartridges. Best to get a printer with the external ink tank capability/modification...the modification only costs approx 500 baht. Now, you'll may still need to replace the ink cartridge/print-head every year or two or three depending on how often you use the printer...if you don't use it often or it lives in a hot environment 24/7 sometimes the ink in the cartridge semi-dries up and hinders the flow which causing the print quality to go to crap.

While cleaning the head or soaking the bottom portion of the cartridge/head in warm water for 5 to 10 minutes can fix the situation sometimes, other times you just need to replace the cartridge. If modified to be fed by an external ink take of course you need to have that mod done on the new cartridge but it's very easy & fast to do.

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... I have bad experiences printing pictures from external tanks, the colours don't last.

I've been doing color printing (like photo's) from refilled cartridges and/or using external ink tanks for years and my colors have stood up just as good as the high price manufacturer's cartridges & inks. My mother-in-law has some 8x10 photo's/pictures in her hot and humid house I printed approx 10 years ago...they still look like they were printed out yesterday...rich colors. And the ink I used was just common, no-name, low cost ink I bought in a bottle. Just been my results...I have no doubt there are some refill inks that don't last too well.

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Unless your MIL lives in a cave I would say you have been very lucky as my prints are gone within six months to a year being original 100 lifetimes or cheap refills. Are you using expensive paper? They just do not last for me if not in a closed book/dark storage. Have given up printing and use photo printers now (at 3 baht for 4x6 it is actually much cheaper than original ink and so far appears to last longer).

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Unless your MIL lives in a cave I would say you have been very lucky as my prints are gone within six months to a year being original 100 lifetimes or cheap refills. Are you using expensive paper? They just do not last for me if not in a closed book/dark storage. Have given up printing and use photo printers now (at 3 baht for 4x6 it is actually much cheaper than original ink and so far appears to last longer).

I do use quality photo paper (Epson, Canon, or Kodak)...but just everyday, common inks I buy at local stores...but I do try to guess (maybe flip a coin) which ink would be the best to buy. For non-photo color print-outs I just use medium quality inkjet printer paper like you can buy anywhere like at Lotus, Makro, Big C, etc I also have plenty of inkjet photo's around my own home which are years and years old...my home here in Bangkok varies from hot & humid (A/C not on) to cool (A/C on). Yeap, my inks have stood up...maybe I've been lucky...hope the luck continues in the coming years.

P.S. I don't see how it would make a difference unless different printheads might possibly lay down the ink differently, but for the last dozen years or so I've only used Canon printers...in fact, I still have and occasionally use my Canon S750 four cartridge/color inkjet printer, which made those years and years old photo's with cartridges I refilled many times with common inks. For the last few years my primary printer has been the Canon MP287 printer/copier/scanner with external ink tanks using common inks.

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I have also used Canon and now a multi function which for anything other than photos love. But even with original ink they do not last (and most of my printing has been original ink) - no direct sun in house but still quickly fade. Paper has been the normal glossy sold under several different names but made by IJ (which seems to be good when printed). They just do not last - but perhaps that has something to do with my aging along with the prints and actual time could be more than the year or so that it seems - time flies as we age.

Have noted with current MP-258 that prints from Picasa do not look good but using native Canon software they are better. Previous cheap Canon 1980 printed good with Picasa.

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... I have bad experiences printing pictures from external tanks, the colours don't last.

I've been doing color printing (like photo's) from refilled cartridges and/or using external ink tanks for years and my colors have stood up just as good as the high price manufacturer's cartridges & inks. My mother-in-law has some 8x10 photo's/pictures in her hot and humid house I printed approx 10 years ago...they still look like they were printed out yesterday...rich colors. And the ink I used was just common, no-name, low cost ink I bought in a bottle. Just been my results...I have no doubt there are some refill inks that don't last too well.

You could also buy her an aircon from the sound of it. smile.pngofftopic2.gif

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Hi also Epson has low ink like hp!

On new models! Making a copy ink is not a easy job, must try to cheat out the original chip inside this chip tells your pc the ink is empty you must replace but there is enough inside. It's like on a new car many computer stuff inside that controll everything!

Many all in one printer have only 2 carriages and mixed together the color with black is one ink emty you cannot print!

Often in the past I buy copy inks and the printer head was gone !

Most manufactor not make warranty replacement when the faulty result in a copy ink!

Note inks from Asia or eu, are only compatible in the country where it's come from!

In the meantime I don't buy any inks

When it's emty I sale the printer without on eBay and buy a new one!

Many people order on amazon print the

Ink emty send it back within one month and got there full money back!

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