Milky Mushroom (Calocybe Indica) Cultivation.

[zakmak]

Hi Kaz,

The milky stops growing during cold season. This is my first corp of the milky and a new specie from china, the big cup mushroom (clitocybe maxima).

I am from Klung, Chantaburi. You may come to learn growing the milky any time you want.

[zakmak]

Thank you Khun Packdee,

I guess the growing season could be extended with solar heated polytunnel or other similar arrangements , but the lack of established market is another obstacle.

What other species do you grow?

Yes I would like to go and learn from you thank you, i will contact you about it soon.

[Packdee]

zakmak

Milky mushroom is new for Thailand, It originally comes from India.
It is the third popular mushroom in India.

Last year got the culture from a friend in the Philippines.
IsaanAussie is the first in Thailand who commercially grows this mushroom.

It takes time to make Thais to familiar to this mushroom.
The price I get here is about 20 Baths higher than straw mushroom.

Any farm waste from plant can be used as substrate for growing the milky.

Now I am doing experiment to reduce cost by using lime soaked pasteurization technique.
Once when we can sell milky mushroom cheaper than straw mushroom, we will conquer the mushroom market.

I am doing experiment on another mushroom, the bamboo mushroom.
This mushroom is popular in Chinese dishes. Thais love to order bamboo tissue soup.
They understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China.

In fact it is mushroom growing all over the places in Chantaburi when I was young.
Chinese keep secret not allow Thai to know that it is mushroom.

[zakmak]

Wow, that looks awesome!

As soon as I figure out how I can send you a pm here I will contact you about visiting you.

Maybe as soon as this Friday if it works for you and my wife agrees too :-)

[Packdee]

Bamboo tissue soup. (99.9% of Thais understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China)

Dry mushroom before cooking.(Look like bleaching chemically treated mushroom)

Sun drying the mushroom.

Collecting wild mushroom.

Cultivating bamboo mushroom during summer in China. (In Thailand this mushroom can be grown the whole year round.)

Photos credit : https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E5%9F%B9%E8%82%B2+%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ub_7UtOFM43PkwWgkoG4Bg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=768

[Packdee]

Bamboo mushroom eggs in Chinese dishes.

Photo credit:

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA%E8%9B%8B&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Z1_8UpGCOIKkiQe7uoGYAQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=768

[Packdee]

ฺBamboo mushroom is in the same genus with stinkhorn and zombie hand mushroom.

The Chinese believe that eating eggs of this mushroom will help boost a sex drive.
Thai beleive that paying respect to this mushroom will help to win lottery.

Photo credit http://lottery.kapook.com/view41773.html

[RedBullHorn]

zakmak

Milky mushroom is new for Thailand, It originally comes from India.

It is the third popular mushroom in India.

Last year got the culture from a friend in the Philippines.

IsaanAussie is the first in Thailand who commercially grows this mushroom.

It takes time to make Thais to familiar to this mushroom.

The price I get here is about 20 Baths higher than straw mushroom.

Any farm waste from plant can be used as substrate for growing the milky.

Now I am doing experiment to reduce cost by using lime soaked pasteurization technique.

Once when we can sell milky mushroom cheaper than straw mushroom, we will conquer the mushroom market.

I am doing experiment on another mushroom, the bamboo mushroom.

This mushroom is popular in Chinese dishes. Thais love to order bamboo tissue soup.

They understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China.

In fact it is mushroom growing all over the places in Chantaburi when I was young.

Chinese keep secret not allow Thai to know that it is mushroom.

Bamboo tissue soup. (99.9% of Thais understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China)

Dry mushroom before cooking.(Look like bleaching chemically treated mushroom)

Sun drying the mushroom.

Collecting wild mushroom.

Cultivating bamboo mushroom during summer in China. (In Thailand this mushroom can be grown the whole year round.)

Photos credit : https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E5%9F%B9%E8%82%B2+%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ub_7UtOFM43PkwWgkoG4Bg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=768

Bamboo mushroom eggs in Chinese dishes.

Photo credit:

https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA%E8%9B%8B&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Z1_8UpGCOIKkiQe7uoGYAQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=768

It is "same same" with Thais...Thai will never tell another Thai where he/she found the valuable Had Khun.

[AA1]

For those interested in growing different mushrooms and have been reading about Col. Packdee's expertise look at the Thread "Isaan Farmers Meeting No. 10" as we are organising a meeting at his mushroom business at the end of March! Do get in touch if you are interesting in joining us by contacting us on the "Isaan Farmers Meeting No. 10" Thread.

[soidog2]

Khun Packdee!

Last year I found this growing in my cassava field here in Buriram.

Looks like a yellow relative of your bamboo mushroom.

Do you know anything about it, is it edible ?

Thank you

zakmak

Milky mushroom is new for Thailand, It originally comes from India.

It is the third popular mushroom in India.

Last year got the culture from a friend in the Philippines.

IsaanAussie is the first in Thailand who commercially grows this mushroom.

It takes time to make Thais to familiar to this mushroom.

The price I get here is about 20 Baths higher than straw mushroom.

Any farm waste from plant can be used as substrate for growing the milky.

Now I am doing experiment to reduce cost by using lime soaked pasteurization technique.

Once when we can sell milky mushroom cheaper than straw mushroom, we will conquer the mushroom market.

I am doing experiment on another mushroom, the bamboo mushroom.

This mushroom is popular in Chinese dishes. Thais love to order bamboo tissue soup.

They understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China.

In fact it is mushroom growing all over the places in Chantaburi when I was young.

Chinese keep secret not allow Thai to know that it is mushroom.

[Packdee]

I found that the milky mushroom can produce fruit without casing.

With casing.

[Basoan]

Hello everybody, I work in a familiar wild mushroom company in Spain and Im so interested in the commercial aspect of milky mushroom.

We do trade with a same generous mushroom (Calocybe gambosa) and I would like to know if it does have similar features like

strong flour smell and strong taste. Since I saw milky mushroom video in youtube, I have been looking for the possibility of seen with my own eyes this

mushroom and think about possibilities of inporting it, but I havent find any company who can produce it. If any of you thinks that can help me in this aim,

please let me know, I wouldn´t mind to travel anywhere in the world.

[Packdee]

We use micro-bag technique to grow the milky mushroom with rich supplement.
The mushroom tastes half chicken and half squid.

[wolfrunes]

how is everyone doing with their bags bought during IFM#10?

5th day in for me and still waiting.

Have 2 noob questions to ask thou...

what does EM and LAB mean?

sorry for being dense.... have zero knowledge on farming / growing mushrooms and am trying to read up on it as much as possible currently..

[revar]

Mine are in. Their private greenhouses:)

EM is the brand name Idaho micro-organism culture which improves soil, intestinal Flora for pigs, fertilizer, etc.

Sent from my i-mobile i-style 7.1 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[Packdee]

EM = Effective Microorganism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_microorganism

LAB = Lactic Acid Bacteria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid_bacteria

One who want to start growing mushroom can learn from this paper.
http://www.fao.org/docrep/004/ab497e/ab497e07.htm

TV members who joined IFM#10 can come to get free training at Colonel's Farm anytime.

Today I tested my electric pasteurizer, it worked well.
If my presupposition, to germinate spores then kill pathogen at 62 - 70 degrees C, is correct,
growing mushroom for the beginner will be easier.

Edited April 5, 2014 by Packdee

[wolfrunes]

Thank you revar and col packdee. Waiting for my FIL to finish his current job before fixing the dates to visit your farm for training

[Packdee]

Casing DIY kit.
Container can be a pot, basket, bucket, or large size plastic bag.

Limit some opening at the bottom, just for draining excessive water.

Peel out plastic bag and place the fully colonized substrate into the pot.

Fill the gaps.

Press hard by hand.

Top with pot soil (60 - 75% moisture), 1 - 2 inches thick (thinner more fruit but smaller, thicker lesser fruit but larger.

Keep cased pot in a chamber that can keep humidity high. It takes ten days or more to have the first pinhead.
After seeing pinheads, partially open the plastic cover for air circulation, spray water on casing to keep moisture high but not wet.

[wolfrunes]

Day 1 @31st Mar

Day 9? @9th Apr

Am I doing the casing correctly? In the 2nd pic.. Correct type of "mould"?

*** My apologies for the lack of definition in my pics.. Do not have a proper camera on hand =.=

Edited April 9, 2014 by wolfrunes

[Packdee]

If the 2nd pic looks like this, it is a cluster of pinheads. But finally only one or two fruits will grow up.

[Dancealot]

Thanks, Packdee, done.

[wolfrunes]

Thank you Col Packdee. Yes, it looks like the clusters pic that you showed

[Packdee]

After casing about 10 days to two weeks, pinheads start to form.

[wdrk7]

Good work Col Pakdee . This is what we need . Some of us here could only read information in english .

[Packdee]

Five days later.

[Packdee]

Day 6th.

Cock cage and plastic sheet keeps high humidity inside, wet jute sack on the floor provides moisture.

[surat04]

If you can access BBC iplayer you guys might enjoy "The Magic of Mushrooms"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b041m6fh/The_Magic_of_Mushrooms/

I just watched it using Firefox browser with Media Hint extention.

[wolfrunes]

A very funny growth of milky mushroom. No idea why did it decide to bend over

[Packdee]

@wolfrunes

Lack of ventilation. The milky needs good air circulation, high temperature (28 - 35 degrees C), high humidity (85 - 90% RH) around the fruit (if the mushroom get wet directly, it will turn to brown)

(Close up photo)

From this one.

[deepcell]

WOW! superb! I had never seen such big ones like this!

The Tricholoma Crassum, a native Thai mushroom, can be large to the size of banana trunk.
This mushroom tastes better the milky mushroom but it take much longer time to get the fruiting.

The grain spawn in plastic bag (500 gram) or bottle (175-200 gram) are also available.

Free mushroom cultivation training fee for guest who stay at my Farm Stay.

My location: 15° 2'4.67"N, 101°24'44.30"E