I Can Pour My Own Beer Thank You.

[Khun Watchaporn]

Amazing the little things that Westerners will find to annoy themselves with.

If only you could be at peace like Thais.

[Khun Watchaporn]

Put an end to it.

Oh dear.

[Rob8891]

Amazing the little things that Westerners will find to annoy themselves with.

If only you could be at peace like Thais.

Put an end to it.

Oh dear.

Hmmmmmm.... seems we're still talking about condoms and not beer..... the two things could be viewed as mutually exclusive....... Food for thought?

@ Smokie You're too young to rant, so hud yer wheesht, wain. Leave it to us grumpy old men....

Edited April 19, 2013 by Rob8891

[rene123]

The only time I had too much to drink on my recent trip to Thialand was when the hostess kept filling up my glass from the large bottles of Leo that our group had ordered. Because we were eating, drinking and talking I didn't take much notice how much I was drinking myself. It wasn't until I stood up that I felt a little wobbly. Everyone had a good laugh at my expense because I seldom drink more than one small bottle of beer.

[samran]

Order beer on tap and not out of a jug/ pitcher seems to be the only way.

[StreetCowboy]

Amazing the little things that Westerners will find to annoy themselves with.

If only you could be at peace like Thais.

I don't think he was generalising to all Thais. I don't hate all Genmans because they take so long to pour a glass of beer. I don't hate all Taiwanese because the bar staff in the Tavern pester you to buy another beer before you've finished the last. I don't hate all Malaysians because the Nepalese staff in some of the pubs are inadequately trained and don't have much experience of pubs.

But there are some aspects of poor service that I am quite happy to discuss, which may be more common in some countries than in others.

I'm glad that you find it all part of your Amazing Thailand experience.

SC

[muythai2013]

very strange that many agree with this but when i complained about male staff trying to massage you in the toilets without asking pretty much everyone attacked me.

I think that tells me something about what many guys here like.

[tolsti]

I visit a local restaurant occasionally after doing some shopping as they have a motocy stand next to them where all the drivers know me, where I live and how much I pay for the ride. I always make a point of stopping for a large Chang before heading home. The staff have taken it upon themselves to, whenever I arrive to guide me to the most comfortable bar stool and put an extra cushion in for my back comfort. They then choose a particular glass (1/2 pint jug) which is kept spotlessly clean and put 2 cubes of ice in it. The wine cooler is then produced and ice and water are added. The coldest bottle is then taken from the fridge (after rummaging and coldness checking of all the other bottles and eventually the first mugful is poured and the bottle places in the wine cooler. A cloth napkin is placed on the bar next to the cooler to use to wipe the bottle when I take it out to pour more.

They only ever pour the first mugful leaving me to do the rest....... superb service and none of it prompted. Rewarded..... yes, often but not always.

[Payboy]

Jamming beer and rushing customers to drink it is just a bush league clip-joint tactic.

It's not service and they know it.

If a hostess starts jamming my glass, I just smile and tell her that I don't want it to get warm, or to have too much ice melting in it or some such excuse. If they continue, then it's "I don't want to be drunk when I leave here."

I smile and joke when I say this.

I ask 'em not to touch my beer and if they put it on the trolley I request that it be put back on my table.

This especially goes for whiskey and soda memberships in the large Thai Coyotee joints.

Smile and say that you like to drink slowly and pour it yourself.

It's easy.

Just watch them when you're totaling your bill. (That they don't swoop in and dump half glass on whiskey into everyone's glass five minutes before you're ready to leave.

Stop them.

Pushy service ruins a good time.

Put an end to it.

Just smile when you do it.

High class restaurants do the same with mineral water.

[martynsnowmans]

only drink in bars that your known in ( easy in udon thani ) they get used to your ways , likes and dislikes pretty quick ,

they know I pour my own beer , they know I never have ice and they know I always leave a tip if they remember the first

2 rules , funny enough they never seem to forget we all get along wonderful ..............

[FunFon]

very strange that many agree with this but when i complained about male staff trying to massage you in the toilets without asking pretty much everyone attacked me.

I think that tells me something about what many guys here like.

-

As long as he's massaging shoulders and neck only, sure I do enjoy that.

And of course drinking beer is much more important to the vast majority of board members, more than life itself to some it seems. . .

[muythai2013]

I don't like beer but they jump on any drink you have anyway.

[Mighty Mouse]

The other problem with beer being poured into a glass, is that the Thais wash the glasses in a type of soap that flattens the beer.

I won't accept beer in anything other than the bottle. Put it in front of me and let me glug it from the bottle.

My life started from the nipple, then the rubber nipple on the milk bottle, so I was brought up knowing how to handle bottles........and nipples.

[GuestHouse]

Ok please put us out of our misery, where did this take place?

So what 6 people go to a bar, 36 bottles are consumed, each person pays for 6 bottles, whats the problem.

Where in farangland can I get a personal servant to add ice and beer?

Usually where I drink its based on eye movement, never mind yet another thinly veiled anti Thai rant, good old GH so predicatable.

rgs2001UK off again on one of his rants against whats going on in his own head.

1. I don't regard the fact that I have not told you where I drink as placing you in misery - I'd hate to deny you the pleasure of coming to your own baseless conclusions.

2. Whats this reference to paying for beers? I have not mentioned paying for beers - paying for beers is not the subject under discussion in this thread - It might be a discussion going on in your own head, but it has nothing to do with my OP.

3. Plenty of places in 'Farangland' will have staff top up your drinks for you - usually up market places where the staff have actually been trained how to poor a drink.

4. 'Thinly veiled anti-Thai rant' - Here we go again, TVF's own special form of McCarthyism' - stalking the board looking for the slight indication that members are not wearing the saffron tinted spectacles YOU have decided must be worn.

I suggest you stop dreaming up the style of life others live and address what ever it is that motivates you to do so... it might not be an easy journey, but you will feel better once you get to the root of the problem.

[NanLaew]

The other problem with beer being poured into a glass, is that the Thais wash the glasses in a type of soap that flattens the beer.

I won't accept beer in anything other than the bottle. Put it in front of me and let me glug it from the bottle.

My life started from the nipple, then the rubber nipple on the milk bottle, so I was brought up knowing how to handle bottles........and nipples.

It's nothing to do with the soap (or as I would suspect, the lack thereof) but more to do with pouring beer into a wet glass. Some beers need an icy cold glass, some don't but pretty much ALL beers mandate a dry glass or else you get the typical glass of stale horsepiss.

One of GH's less pithy threads IMHO but it has drawn a surprising amount of the similarly dischuffed to post about their petty pretty unanimous dischuffment. Surprised this item have never featured before in the perennial 'Things I Hate About Thailand' threads but maybe it only plays in the minor leagues.

[Khun Watchaporn]

Order beer on tap and not out of a jug/ pitcher seems to be the only way.

Or sit back, relax, and find peace at nice people serving you.

[Payboy]

Washing glasses, what a novel idea.

[Khun Watchaporn]

^ See post 31.

[muythai2013]

Order beer on tap and not out of a jug/ pitcher seems to be the only way.

Or sit back, relax, and find peace at nice people serving you.

their not being nice their after tips, don't tip and see if their being nice.

Edited April 20, 2013 by muythai2013

[chrisinth]

very strange that many agree with this but when i complained about male staff trying to massage you in the toilets without asking pretty much everyone attacked me.

I think that tells me something about what many guys here like.

If they were pouring my beer while trying to massage me in the toilets, I'd complain as well....................

[Naam]

Order beer on tap and not out of a jug/ pitcher seems to be the only way.

jug/pitcher = shudder... gasp... moan... groan... growl... reak...

[muythai2013]

Take note how the Thai customers are left alone yet the Farang tables have 4 to 5 staff eyeing you off just waiting for that wallet to appear.

[Khun Watchaporn]

Take note how the Thai customers are left alone yet the Farang tables have 4 to 5 staff eyeing you off just waiting for that wallet to appear.

Paranoid much?

Honestly, the World Westerners create inside their own head here is nothing but bizarre.

[Khun Watchaporn]

Order beer on tap and not out of a jug/ pitcher seems to be the only way.

Or sit back, relax, and find peace at nice people serving you.

their not being nice their after tips, don't tip and see if their being nice.

Finally the solution is found for angry farangs wanting to be left alone: Don't tip, don't be nice, don't be calm, relaxed and happy... you'll then be left completely alone to enjoy your angriness in peace.

Sparing a 20b note for the poor unfortunate who's at your beck and call, waiting on you hand and foot, ensuring that you always have a refreshed beverage, at a time of the day where they should be with their family or friends.... It's just too much for some farang not to be all angry and frustrated.

Edited April 20, 2013 by Khun Watchaporn

[Payboy]

Washing glasses, what a novel idea.

^ See post 31.

Nothing about glasses there, but a lot about keeping things bottled up.

[Mighty Mouse]

The other problem with beer being poured into a glass, is that the Thais wash the glasses in a type of soap that flattens the beer.

I won't accept beer in anything other than the bottle. Put it in front of me and let me glug it from the bottle.

My life started from the nipple, then the rubber nipple on the milk bottle, so I was brought up knowing how to handle bottles........and nipples.

It's nothing to do with the soap (or as I would suspect, the lack thereof) but more to do with pouring beer into a wet glass. Some beers need an icy cold glass, some don't but pretty much ALL beers mandate a dry glass or else you get the typical glass of stale horsepiss.

Yep, I stand corrected.

I was always under the impression that soap was the main cause of the problem so it was better to wash beer glasses in fresh, clean water. In fact, many modern day beer glass washers use only fresh water.

At home I always washed beer glasses by scrubbing them under running water by hand, with no soap. They are then air dried. I thought that any soap residue on the glass caused the beer to flatten.

I was only half right.

I did some quick Google research and as you correctly point out, the essential part of cleaning a beer glass for re-use is to allow it to become totally dry and cool.

[thequietman]

Even worse than topping up too frequently is when they park your beer on a trolley out of reach, pour the first glass, then forget about you.

And, if you get up and bring the bottle back to your table the waitress looks at you as if you're stealing it.

god that sh!ts me..

Or........ they take down your unopened bottle, ice and glass, place it on the little server table and piss off. No bottle opener ! You wait and wait and then eventually cause they never come back, you have to go get the opener from them.

Then.............. they are pissed off when you don't leave a tip !

[Baerboxer]

Doesn't really matter since they're pouring it over ice anyway. . .

Yes it does. Pouring incorrectly over ice will still cause a beer to froth up.

[bra]

The other problem with beer being poured into a glass, is that the Thais wash the glasses in a type of soap that flattens the beer.

I won't accept beer in anything other than the bottle. Put it in front of me and let me glug it from the bottle.

My life started from the nipple, then the rubber nipple on the milk bottle, so I was brought up knowing how to handle bottles........and nipples.

It's nothing to do with the soap (or as I would suspect, the lack thereof) but more to do with pouring beer into a wet glass. Some beers need an icy cold glass, some don't but pretty much ALL beers mandate a dry glass or else you get the typical glass of stale horsepiss.

Yep, I stand corrected.

I was always under the impression that soap was the main cause of the problem so it was better to wash beer glasses in fresh, clean water. In fact, many modern day beer glass washers use only fresh water.

At home I always washed beer glasses by scrubbing them under running water by hand, with no soap. They are then air dried. I thought that any soap residue on the glass caused the beer to flatten.

I was only half right.

I did some quick Google research and as you correctly point out, the essential part of cleaning a beer glass for re-use is to allow it to become totally dry and cool.

I agree about the dry and preferably cold glass to get a good head on a glass of beer - taught to me by my Grandfather. But it also then depends on how the beer is poured - one quick motion, starting with the glass on a 45 degree angle, increasing to the vertical by the time the glass is full. Of course no ice.

But after the first 2 glasses - ice, not so clean warm glass etc and who cares??

In Malaysia its the same, though a couple of variations I have seen: Complain about flat beer? Waiter grabs a nearby spoon and gives it a good stir, or tops up the beer with warm soda water.

In Chinese restaurants in Brunei (alcohol banned), your beer will come out of a tea pot into a porcelain Chinese tea cup - hard to get a good head but once again after a few who cares?

Just keep smiling and give a tip.

[kennedy]

I don't go out much, but this why I always drink likker when I do.