BSJ Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just saw this bike for first time today as sales began in Europe. If Yamaha plays it right they have a great foundation to make sport and touring bikes for a decade. I just hope they could design them a little bit better that's all. Touring! Is there somewhere to mount the panniers??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Just saw this bike for first time today as sales began in Europe. If Yamaha plays it right they have a great foundation to make sport and touring bikes for a decade. I just hope they could design them a little bit better that's all. Touring! Is there somewhere to mount the panniers??? Someone will make them, there are for any bike. What I meant to say, this is the first version introduced, then Yamaha can introduce a tourer, and even a sportier model leveraging an all-new light and performing base. Edited October 1, 2013 by paz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Just saw this bike for first time today as sales began in Europe. If Yamaha plays it right they have a great foundation to make sport and touring bikes for a decade. I just hope they could design them a little bit better that's all. Touring! Is there somewhere to mount the panniers??? Dear BSJ. Are you serious? The number 1 manufacturer of touring / adventure panniers (hard and soft luggage) has his main manufacturing location in Thailand. And oops you can find a few more manufacturers in Thailand who produce panniers in Thailand... Touratech is light-years ahead of anything in the worldwide accessories market, the company is even so important that companies like BMW will not release a new touring/adventure motorcycle without Touratech having a set of accessories ready 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BSJ Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just saw this bike for first time today as sales began in Europe. If Yamaha plays it right they have a great foundation to make sport and touring bikes for a decade. I just hope they could design them a little bit better that's all.Touring! Is there somewhere to mount the panniers??? Dear BSJ. Are you serious? The number 1 manufacturer of touring / adventure panniers (hard and soft luggage) has his main manufacturing location in Thailand. And oops you can find a few more manufacturers in Thailand who produce panniers in Thailand... Touratech is light-years ahead of anything in the worldwide accessories market, the company is even so important that companies like BMW will not release a new touring/adventure motorcycle without Touratech having a set of accessories ready Yes Richard I am serious about somethings: the food I eat, the company I keep and where I keep my money. Everything else is fluid! Touratech maybe a big company but I haven't any inclination to pay skyhigh prices for their ugly panniers. You have to remember all the bikes I've had fitted with panniers came with panniers. I've only ever bought one set and they were cheap vinyl throw-over bags back in 1972 which I used infrequently for about 8 years. Panniers have to look part of the bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard-BKK Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just saw this bike for first time today as sales began in Europe. If Yamaha plays it right they have a great foundation to make sport and touring bikes for a decade. I just hope they could design them a little bit better that's all.Touring! Is there somewhere to mount the panniers??? Dear BSJ. Are you serious? The number 1 manufacturer of touring / adventure panniers (hard and soft luggage) has his main manufacturing location in Thailand. And oops you can find a few more manufacturers in Thailand who produce panniers in Thailand... Touratech is light-years ahead of anything in the worldwide accessories market, the company is even so important that companies like BMW will not release a new touring/adventure motorcycle without Touratech having a set of accessories ready Yes Richard I am serious about somethings: the food I eat, the company I keep and where I keep my money. Everything else is fluid! Touratech maybe a big company but I haven't any inclination to pay skyhigh prices for their ugly panniers. You have to remember all the bikes I've had fitted with panniers came with panniers. I've only ever bought one set and they were cheap vinyl throw-over bags back in 1972 which I used infrequently for about 8 years. Panniers have to look part of the bike. CropperCapture1.png CropperCapture12.jpg CropperCapture15.jpg CropperCapture18.jpg CropperCapture36.jpg CropperCapture44.jpg CropperCapture42.jpg CropperCapture16.jpg Agree for motorcycles like you show, the panniers should fit the bike, and you will not pay skyhigh prices for the panniers, you pay skyhigh prices for the whole bike... Any of the motorcycles in your picture available in Thailand for under 1.2 million THB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) It does sound good Has everything...HP..Torque..Low weight ( for a bike this size today ) Various modes fly by wire systems, triple, price Needs suspension & brake tuning...but most stock bikes need the same Edited December 13, 2013 by meechai 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 It does sound good Has everything...HP..Torque..Low weight ( for a bike this size today ) Various modes fly by wire systems, triple, price Needs suspension & brake tuning...but most stock bikes need the same cool bike and we might see ti here around 500 k if Yamaha brings it here. I hope that! But reviews claiming snappy throttle and bad fueling that kills the joy of riding this nice machine. check the reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I would much prefer this bike over the new 4-cyl Honda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) I would much prefer this bike over the new 4-cyl Honda. I think many would I think this bike compares more with the Ducati Hypermotard *SP* than the 650 Honda. In fact its main numbers such as Weight,HP & Torque are near identical HP SP-110 Yam 113 Weight SP-428 Yam 414 Torque SP- 65 Yam-64 Question is will it come to Thailand & at what price? Edited December 13, 2013 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastafarian Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The FZ-09 is a very good budget bike, all reviews have been great, especially when considering the low price...only $7999 in America! But to compare it to a Hypermotard SP is a bit silly, apples and oranges with the SP being a far superior bike. Hope Yamaha Thailand sell it here at a reasonable price, if Suzuki can sell a Japanese made V-Strom for 350k then no reason this couldn't be a similar price. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I test rode the new yamaha a few weeks ago in Uk its very very good , maybe even nicer than a street triple i borrowed last year , i has made in japan on the frame , I think it will get to thailand in 2015 for 450k, also triumph are now in the process of renegotiating the BOI contract andThai distribution network should be some good news in 2015 as its all linked to the new Asean FTA and triumphs new India factory and the new 250 which will be sold in thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meljan45 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 What is the cost of this bike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 What is the cost of this bike? Seems to be $7999 in the US Retail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfarang Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 That's only 260,000 Baht. Wish it was that here... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 But to compare it to a Hypermotard SP is a bit silly, apples and oranges with the SP being a far superior bike. Suspension & brakes I agree far superior on the Duc But in the actual riding world I do not see much difference after that As the numbers I posted above which are main factors in any bike indicate it equals or better in those Then both have a steel frame. no advantage Operating costs? a No Brainer the Yamaha will be far cheaper to service/maintain Initial price? The SP is near a million baht isn't it? The Yamaha if it came would likely be under 600k ( double US retail) & maybe closer to 500k? I do not think they are as far apart as they are near in specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 That's only 260,000 Baht. Wish it was that here... If I were back in the US I would buy one today based on bang for the buck alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) That's only 260,000 Baht. Wish it was that here... If I were back in the US I would buy one today based on bang for the buck alone. prefer to pay 1000 bucks more and get the Triumph Street triple. As apart from fueling issues and snappy throttle, yamaha fz 09 looks like a cricket! Edited December 13, 2013 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) prefer to pay 1000 bucks more and get the Triumph Street triple. As apart from fueling issues and snappy throttle, yamaha fz 09 looks like a cricket! These problems were real bad when you rode it? A cricket? That is odd given your like of the 650 Honda? It is a naked so to compare it to the Naked 650 I would say if the FZ is a cricket what is the 650? Also you say you prefer the Street Triple I agree a good bike but you think it looks very different? Edited December 13, 2013 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Then both have a steel frame. no advantageAbove from my previous post comparing SP & FZ My bad the Yamaha has a lightweight alloy chassis not steel About 1:48 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_aidK3twj8 Edited December 13, 2013 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 But to compare it to a Hypermotard SP is a bit silly, apples and oranges with the SP being a far superior bike. Suspension & brakes I agree far superior on the Duc But in the actual riding world I do not see much difference after that As the numbers I posted above which are main factors in any bike indicate it equals or better in those Then both have a steel frame. no advantage Operating costs? a No Brainer the Yamaha will be far cheaper to service/maintain Initial price? The SP is near a million baht isn't it? The Yamaha if it came would likely be under 600k ( double US retail) & maybe closer to 500k? I do not think they are as far apart as they are near in specs The Yamaha frame is aluminium, not steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdsandBooze Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Sorry Meechai, you got there before me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Sorry Meechai, you got there before me No problem & yes my initial thought was at that price it would be steel but I was surprised to see in that video it is in fact Alum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) prefer to pay 1000 bucks more and get the Triumph Street triple. As apart from fueling issues and snappy throttle, yamaha fz 09 looks like a cricket! These problems were real bad when you rode it? A cricket? That is odd given your like of the 650 Honda? It is a naked so to compare it to the Naked 650 I would say if the FZ is a cricket what is the 650? Also you say you prefer the Street Triple I agree a good bike but you think it looks very different? 2013-Triumph-Street-Triple-R-06.jpg wow wow, slow down meechai! discussions over tastes, pleasures and colors of this world move us nowhere my friend. i might find it like a cricket but you might find it as a tiger. besides, i dont fancy cbr650f design either especially that big ass rear end and i stated that before. and i read some reviews about some problems the bike might have but did you have something to say bike has no problems? so you say there were no problems while you were riding this bike, huh? and street triple r feels different when you look at it Edited December 13, 2013 by ll2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 wow wow, slow down meechai! discussions over tastes, pleasures and colors of this world move us nowhere my friend. i might find it like a cricket but you might find it as a tiger. besides, i dont fancy cbr650f design either especially that big ass rear end and i stated that before. and i read some reviews about some problems the bike might have but did you have something to say bike has no problems? so you say there were no problems while you were riding this bike, huh? no problems I thought your the guy that always admonishes others about how they cannot say anything if they have not ridden or owned the bike. Maybe that was someone else? Kor Tort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I would much prefer this bike over the new 4-cyl Honda. I think many would I think this bike compares more with the Ducati Hypermotard *SP* than the 650 Honda. In fact its main numbers such as Weight,HP & Torque are near identical HP SP-110 Yam 113 Weight SP-428 Yam 414 Torque SP- 65 Yam-64 Question is will it come to Thailand & at what price? Why compared it to the SP? The standard Hypermotard would be more like it. I think you got the HP wrong, Hyper is 110 and Yam is 106. That being said, on the video clip it looks quite good and it sounds fantastic too. A bit too wild for me, prefer both tires on the road nowadays. It would be great if Yamaha and Triumph would start selling at prices in Thailand most people could live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Why compared it to the SP? The standard Hypermotard would be more like it. I think you got the HP wrong, Hyper is 110 and Yam is 106. It would be great if Yamaha and Triumph would start selling at prices in Thailand most people could live with. I originally thought the SP had more HP but now I look at Ducati's site & see yes both the SP & the regular Hyper both have 110 hp & 65.8 lb of torque So yes could use the regular Hyper as a compare But no the Yamaha is listed at 113-115hp afaik also torque almost identical at 64.5 lbs Yamaha also 14-22lbs lighter than both models of Hyper with full tank of fuel. I sure agree about the lower prices! Edited December 13, 2013 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Seems the snappy throttle someone mentioned is dependent on which mode you choose. The snappy "A" mode would be considered fun to some but if too much too handle the softer "B" mode seems to be "smooth, precise and steady throttle control" in town driving when one might find it too sporty. Remember we said earlier about the FZ-09 still doing one thing for you? That one thing is: wheelie. All you have to do is tell it when (by grabbing a handful of throttle… well, not necessarily a handful) and up she goes. The front end climbs without much coaxing from any other part of your body (or even from the clutch for that matter) but does so in a very controllable manner - more so in B mode than either the Standard or A modes the FZ-09 has to offer. We’re referring to the FZ-09’s YCC-T (Yamaha Chip Controlled – Throttle) three-way Drive-Mode variable throttle mapping, which can be adjusted on the fly via a small button on the handlebar. Standard and A options are both pretty aggressive, bordering on overly snappy. Barely crack the throttle and it’ll jump out of your hands if you’re not gripping the bars tightly, especially in the most aggressive A mode. But in B mode, the softest setting of the three, the motor gets noticeably more manageable, while still rendering easy roll-on second-gear wheelies. The B setting was also by far the mode of choice for the congested streets of San Francisco, where you want smooth, precise and steady throttle control while you’re squeezing through stop-and-go traffic. http://www.cyclenews.com/366/22362/Racing-Article/First-Ride--2014-Yamaha-FZ-09.aspx Edited December 13, 2013 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ll2 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 wow wow, slow down meechai! discussions over tastes, pleasures and colors of this world move us nowhere my friend. i might find it like a cricket but you might find it as a tiger. besides, i dont fancy cbr650f design either especially that big ass rear end and i stated that before. and i read some reviews about some problems the bike might have but did you have something to say bike has no problems? so you say there were no problems while you were riding this bike, huh? no problems I thought your the guy that always admonishes othersabout how they cannot say anything if they have not ridden or owned the bike. Maybe that was someone else? Kor Tort But i did not say i believe what articles say! Just passing words meechai. Do you only want us to say: 'what a nice bike' ? You remind me someone i know and respect from this forum before by the way. I hope you are that person. Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) But i did not say i believe what articles say! Just passing words meechai. Do you only want us to say: 'what a nice bike' ? You remind me someone i know and respect from this forum before by the way. I hope you are that person. I just thought it was a funny pot calling kettle black kind of deal after just previously reading this... My point is to show that it doesnt seem to maintain 180kph for everyone as in post 2 of this thread.Really? I really cannot understand people who do not own this bike but coment from someone elses posts at other forums. Maybe they guy does not know how to use the power band etc. Of course I think anyone can say what ever is their opinion But I had just read the thing I quoted & it is basically the exact same deal in reverse. Some "heard" something & posted it. Which should have been fine Edited December 14, 2013 by meechai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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