I don't condone what Daley did, but its understandable.

Well, perhaps if was all 12 years old and standing around a playground.

-pedo allegations

Agreed, really out of order. The admin that have been accused should take what ever action they deem neccesary. I believe some of Thailand's top lawyers are on the case now.

-mods here have been ripped in so many ways I think its uncalled for such as Tuky, Pong, George, Cdnvic, Boo, Udon. (some of it I dare not repeat because it was rather ugly stuff)

Thats just life, their public forums, nothing to get upset about (apart from the pedo thing of course).

-certain members at TV have been abused royally there, just for a laff.

Certain members of TV are abused on this forum everyday just for a laugh.

-posted TV topics, and photos.

The real advice is if you don't want your pics stolen and posted around the net, don't do it in the first place yourself! This is the internet, its not always private, you should always know that. Ever seen a pic of me and mine on here? No way, and there never will be.

TD had calmed down over last few weeks.... bash TV seems to be off the radar.

Definately a good thing for them, I assume its partly caused by all the TV members that have joined over there in the recent months. Most sensible users can manage joining various forums and enjoying theirselves on both as Sir Burr said earlier.

The biggest problem, and the thing that most upsets me, is the fact that the worst perpetuators of the paedo and other insults are the owners and moderators of TD. Also several people whom I once held in high regard when they were here, have turned very bitter and nasty towards TV.

I could handle ordinary members shooting off their mouths, but when the owner of the place uses most of his posts to threaten to kill his former friends and mods after falling out with them, it's not something easily shrugged off.

Uh BKK - what do I have to do with Daley trolling over at <URL Automatically Removed>? I haven't caused any problems there nor do I intend to apart from sticking up for my mates when I think the line has been crossed. Like I said things have settled down at TD, so I think in everyone's best interest to leave well enough alone.

Must be a wind-up - Croc you confirm this is them? I'm with you Daley, I ca spare a few cracks on the head for em.

Sorry Brit the 'wannabe thugs' thing came from this post a while back when you was on about cracking heads with Daleyboy. Once again, foolish bkkmadness must've misread the whole situation.

I agree though Brit, I think better left alone. Both forums have their good and bad sides, and good and bad moderation policies, good and bad threads etc. Funs to be had at both sides.

If the pedo allegations continue from TD then I'm sure admin here will sort that out if they can but its not our business, so lets not all be soldiers loyal to only one forum.

Really Daleyboy, you should be the last one to be moaning about them, When you was suspended from here you ran over their with your tail between your legs complaining about Thaivisa and all the bullshit. I expect with another suspension you'll be over there again!

I haven't seen the thread regarding daleyboy, but give the bugger a break. I have wanted to do the same at times, and one particular time I did (perhaps to a lesser degree), which I regretted in the morn.

But as he stated earlier, he is only standing up for his friends, which includes me.

My two years as a mod on TV has taught me to be moderate, hence my lack of reaction to being called a pedo (until one night when i was drunk), we all know DD is just shooting his mouth off, and he targeted me because I banned him from here for making the same accusations against another, substantiated or not thaivisa does not stoop that low or let its members.

Give Daley a break.

sadman, did I reply to your PM? it was crazy times with the new kid, and I forget whether I told you how grateful was for your PM.

Dale, you cock sucking, felching loser, as long as you never make a homo pass at me I will always be your mate.

So.....when does the gang war start? Are we gonna use knives, guns, baseball bats? I like baseball bats, the only good thing to come out of the game.

BKK - cheers for the correction.

By The Way, if you blokes can't get along in this thread then leave it alone. It is not worth spoiling what we have. It is unmoderated so we can't intervene, don't let that spoil friendships.

Some admin/mods do not like the idea of the underground, others do.

Lets not give the detractors (admin/mods) a reason to get rid the underground ok?

Shut the ###### up and enjoy what we have here :0

I think Daleyboy is gonna end up as pathetic as some of the TD members if he joins the Thailand forum hardcore of sending people abusive physically threatening messages by PM. Its just time to switch of the computer at that point and do something more worthwile. Christ I hear that DJ Pat actually tries to meet up with people to have a proper real life fight with them, how ######ing weird is that.

As Brit quite rightly said to Daleyboy a while back when Daleyboy started doing all this 'don't stoop to that level', but he did, shame on him really.

I gotta add, ######ing mad that DD has the balls to moan about nasty Daleyboy sending those messages, stones and glass houses come to mind! More front that blackpool that one, I'm gonna pop in and have me say there too now.

BKK - Pat is all talk. Trust me having met Pat, he's a good one - plus I don't think you need to fear him, I wouldnt. (he's told me he just says things to wind people up)

As for Dale - nah he's alright in the end. I think he made a mistake by doing such rubbish because now he's lost the high ground and it only gives them more cannon fodder in the end.

Yeah DJ Pat is a lot of talk, dont worry dude, no need for me to fear him, we don't even have cross words. I do hear hes a nice guy, but anyone that challenges members of an internet forum to fights in Bangkok because they have a disagreement in opinion is a bit ######ing weird to me and me times probably better spent elsewhere.

Yeah, maybe Dale is alright, overall he does seem to be, that why it kinda of saddens me to seem him stoop to that level. Shame really, as someone said, two wrongs dont make a right and all that. You gotta always keep your head above the muppets of the world.

Over there I critised DJPats crappy life experience story, and he has been sending me pathetic insulting messages in the anonymous points thing ever since. Things like "annoying little shit" "######" and "######ing tosspot"

I wouldn't fear a face to face with someone like that in a million years.

Over there I critised DJPats crappy life experience story, and he has been sending me pathetic insulting messages in the anonymous points thing ever since. Things like "annoying little shit" "######" and "######ing tosspot"

I wouldn't fear a face to face with someone like that in a million years.

This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. If your gonna post something on a forum then expect sometimes you might get some shit for it, right or wrong. You gotta be able to deal with that or not use public internet forums. DJPats obviously not old enough to use the big kids playground yet sending stupid little pms to you like that.

give him a break bkk.

He prolly regrets it, we all do stupid things when we are emotional.

give him a break bkk.

He prolly regrets it, we all do stupid things when we are emotional.

Tuky, Im not really bitching totally at DB here, but everyone who gets too involved with these forums desreve it. I wouldn't moan about some people coz you just expect it, but DB I thought would act a bit above that.

I understand we all do stupid things when we are emotional, but forums are not something to get that emotional about IMHO.

Anyways, if I did sound a bit harsh at the start I apologise though my views still stand. Anyway, between this thread and the one over at TD about him I'm finally going for a beer.

Christ I hear that DJ Pat actually tries to meet up with people to have a proper real life fight with them, how ######ing weird is that.

Now there's a challenge I would take lightly...lol

Hang on , I must be weird.......

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

Take it easy sonny... Boo was simly trying to take make people happy.. if you diagree with her methods, feel free to talk to her about it, otherwise back off.. k?

see you in the general forums...

3 real moderating posts if ever I saw them there Tuky. Nice one.

I like all the people that are posting on this page at the mo and I've got a lot of time for Daleyboy, I enjoy most of they're posts even if I don't always agree. Thats the point of why we're all here eh, to comunicate. I also don't mind going down to others levels if I think I'm right, I'll go to the gutter cos, in the end I know who I am and, thats what ######in counts.

A point make about about going down to others level is vitriol pointed at friends on the same forum, there's no need for that. (no fingers are being pointed in that sentence by the way).

Lets get this inter subject subject sorted out and get back on track with the original.

redrus

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

Take it easy sonny... Boo was simly trying to take make people happy.. if you diagree with her methods, feel free to talk to her about it, otherwise back off.. k?

see you in the general forums...

Old croc, I have told huski in the mod chat that I didn't see this as moderating, i created the poll as a response to several memebrs requesting moderators to close this topic. BUT as this is an unmoderated section thought a poll would be the most democratic & mod free option. If he doesn't agree then he is more than welcome to remove the poll. I don't care one way or another. So get off your soap box will ya.

Whatever the intentions I got the impression a mod was proposing to use a mob to do their dirty work for them and shut down discussion. Sorry but that's the way I took it.

Some of the old hands on TD have expressed their distaste for the pedo bs posted on their forum and the main loudmouth who kept it rolling has said he will cease his harping on the subject. The guy has no history of posting on TV and he seldom posts on TV nowadays but he has the biggest gripe with TV out of everyone over there. It tells me he is seeking approval from the others. The member who posted TV members pics has stopped posting on TD so things are being sorted and settling down.

There's plenty of other stuff there to read besides the inter froum bs.

I personally don't give a Rat's arse, about what goes on over there, at backdoor.com .

In fact the snitch in here, is probably telling them that we're still talking about them, probably giving them a weird satisfaction.

Even though in the Underground, we're sort of self moderated, I vote for close this topic and let it quietly slide away into oblivion, not to be talked about again.

Who say Eye, eye

Sorry guys and gals, for those of you who missed my earlier post, i was the one who initially suggested we close this topic (for the reasons above) not a Mod, sorry for the grief youv'e had Boo.

It's just that, mud slinging with each other, has crept into here because of what has happened over at TD. What's all that about

I really like the Underground and nowadays i don't venture much out of it, i just didn't like the way this topic was causing friction.

My most humblist of appologies to all I wish there was a "I'm not worthy" emoticon

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

Take it easy sonny... Boo was simly trying to take make people happy.. if you diagree with her methods, feel free to talk to her about it, otherwise back off.. k?

see you in the general forums...

Never talked with you before Wolfie, not sure why you called me sonny. As I'm almost certainly older than you it would seem to be a funny term of address or is it some sort of British insult?

I did disagree with Boo's poll on closing a thread here and did tell her. Are you suggesting I should have talked to her elsewhere? I rarely use PMs, preferring to talk openly.

Was the "see you in the general forums" meant to mean anything particularly?

I could quite reasonable take it to mean you will target me for moderation elsewhere. I don't take kindly to threats.

Woooo hoooo.... what have I missed....

What a great thread.. who in their right mind would want to close this thread now..

Ok... I don't see anything wrong with what daleyboy did... it was a response to their childishness IMHO. Yes it was over the top, but hey.. it's an unmoderated forum.

BKK.. I don't think you need to be on his case anymore, like you said.. it's the internet, not real.

RE - Boo wanting to close the topic... This is an unmoderated forum, and I agree with her thought that creating a poll to close was not moderating.. cos it isn't. This branch of the forum is IMO self moderating (not my words.. it has been called this before) and that's exactly what the poll was allowing. Anyway.. we've had the words from Huski that no topics will be closed in here... and that's just fine by me..

Remember this post by me..

Personally I vote enough with this topic now, let 'em get on with what ever they do. People bickering about forums is IMHO a bit sad.

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totster

It would be nice to think we are better than this.. we're not a bunch of kids ganging up on each other.. leave them to it.. and just enjoy TV more

With regards to them finding about about the Underground.. SO ######ING WHAT !

I am disapointed that someone felt the need to blab.. but I'm sure they had their reasons.. which I'm sure were just to cause trouble.. but.. up to them.. it makes no difference in the big scheme of things.... just means there's a snake in the grass... but that shouldn't change anything.. forums are anonymous to a certain extent.. who knows who anyone is !

totster

Just for the sake of discussion it's possible to see the poll as an attempt to moderate by proxy as well as to see the poll as some sort of loyality test. Anyone who votes to keep the topic open may be the "snitch" or is he? We had better sleep with a knife or gun near the bed. Advise your wives if they get up in the night for a drink of water they had better low crawl out of the bedroom or risk losing a body part. It should be understood by all that none of us can be held responsible for our actions in a time of forum emergency.

I reckon Doleyboy is the "snitch" and is now trying to divert attention. Actually I don't but it's amusing to imply it.

On the unmoderated theme, wasn't Udon suggesting we let Boon Mee in then kick him out when we get bored with him ? That sounds like a moderated forum to me.

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

My apologies to Boo.

In retrospect that last line came across a lot harsher than was the intent.

I was trying to emphasise the unmoderated state of The Underground and the tone used in that sentence was not necessary.

Again my apologies.

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

My apologies to Boo.

In retrospect that last line came across a lot harsher than was the intent.

I was trying to emphasise the unmoderated state of The Underground and the tone used in that sentence was not necessary.

Again my apologies.

I thought the comment was meant in more light hearted than in seriosness. Sorry I didn't say so earlier, maybe an emoticon next time mate....?

redrus

QUOTE(Old Croc @ 2006-04-20 22:14:40)

My apologies to Boo.

In retrospect that last line came across a lot harsher than was the intent.

I was trying to emphasise the unmoderated state of The Underground and the tone used in that sentence was not necessary.

Again my apologies.

I thought the comment was meant in more light hearted than in seriosness. Sorry I didn't say so earlier, maybe an emoticon next time mate....?

Apology accepted, it was the last 2 lines that I took offense too but a smiley speaks a thousand words

Totster Yesterday, 2006-04-20 22:46:13

RE - Boo wanting to close the topic... This is an unmoderated forum, and I agree with her thought that creating a poll to close was not moderating.. cos it isn't. This branch of the forum is IMO self moderating (not my words.. it has been called this before) and that's exactly what the poll was allowing.

Ahh finally That was exaclty my idea. But again, if it's not ok, then I am fine with the poll being deleted.

QUOTE(Old Croc @ 2006-04-20 22:14:40)

My apologies to Boo.

In retrospect that last line came across a lot harsher than was the intent.

I was trying to emphasise the unmoderated state of The Underground and the tone used in that sentence was not necessary.

Again my apologies.

I thought the comment was meant in more light hearted than in seriosness. Sorry I didn't say so earlier, maybe an emoticon next time mate....?

Apology accepted, it was the last 2 lines that I took offense too but a smiley speaks a thousand words

The second last line wasn't directed at you Boo, it was to the people complaining the topic had become tedious. My simple answer was don't read it.

I had gotten a little lazy with smilies lately. I knew when I meant them, but wasn't actually including them.

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

Take it easy sonny... Boo was simly trying to take make people happy.. if you diagree with her methods, feel free to talk to her about it, otherwise back off.. k?

see you in the general forums...

Was the "see you in the general forums" meant to mean anything particularly?

I could quite reasonable take it to mean you will target me for moderation elsewhere. I don't take kindly to threats.

You gotta love the way he adds the ..... to the end of it, implying future consequences to whatever's said in here. A veiled threat indeed IMO.

Sorry Boo, and the others who want this closed, but as Huski has reiterated, this is an unmoderated forum. A thread cannot be closed!!

To do so would make The Underground nothing more than Bedlam!!

If you don't like the thread don't read it, and don't post on it!!!!

Boo, take your moderating elsewhere.

Take it easy sonny... Boo was simly trying to take make people happy.. if you diagree with her methods, feel free to talk to her about it, otherwise back off.. k?

see you in the general forums...

Was the "see you in the general forums" meant to mean anything particularly?

I could quite reasonable take it to mean you will target me for moderation elsewhere. I don't take kindly to threats.

You gotta love the way he adds the ..... to the end of it, implying future consequences to whatever's said in here. A veiled threat indeed IMO.

How big's your wooden spoon....?

redrus