US government shuts down as Congress misses deadline

[Credo]

Hmmm. What shutdown?

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What a 'Shutdown' Means: $63B Spent, $26B Taxed; $1.6B Borrowed; $1B Paid in Salaries--in Just 2 Days

October 4, 2013 - 11:55 AM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - In general terms, politicians and the press may be referring to what has been happening in Washington, D.C., over the past few days as a government "shutdown" or a "partial government shutdown," but the actual accounting sheets of the U.S. Treasury show that massive amounts of taxed and borrowed money were flowing in and out of the government during the first two days of fiscal 2014.

According to the Daily Treasury Statement for Oct. 2, which was released yesterday at 4:00 p.m., the Treasury spent a total of $63.262 billion in the first two days of fiscal 2014. At the same time, it took in $25.681 billion in tax revenue.

The Treasury also sold $1.648 billion in new Treasury securities--which is government debt.

Among the things, the federal government spent money on during the "partial government shutdown" was $1.129 billion in salaries for federal employees.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/what-shutdown-means-63b-spent-26b-taxed-16b-borrowed-1b-paid-salaries#sthash.ZUPLxdFQ.dpuf

...and...

After Shutdown: Administration Gives $445,000,000 to Corporation for Public Broadcasting

October 3, 2013 - 4:15 PM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - On the first day of the “shutdown” of the federal government, when members of the U.S. Senate were going to the well of their house to point out that the shutdown would prevent the National Institutes of Health from starting clinical trials for cancer patients and others facing possibly terminal illnesses, the administration was giving $445,000,000 to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, according to the Daily Treasury Statement.

That means PBS NewsHour, National Public Radio and Sesame Street got a taxpayer subsidy during the shutdown, but not would-be cancer patients at the NIH.

The $445 million the Treasury handed over to CPB was more than the $119 million the Treasury paid on the first day of the shutdown in interest on U.S. government debt that is held by the public.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/after-shutdown-administration-gives-445000000-corporation-public#sthash.yteglAod.dpuf

Speaking of incoherent, just who do you think should get paid? Seems you want to pick and chose, unfortunately that isn't quite how a democratic system works.

But, hey if you are worried about those cancer patients, then maybe you could encourage your conservative party members to get on with business.

I note that as of this morning the congressional salaries that are being paid during this partial shutdown was nearly $1 million and counting.

[chuckd]

Remove Obamacare from what and have a vote on what? Your post is lacking some cohesion somewhere.

Perhaps it's your cognition that's at fault.

The Dems would approve most versions of the spending bill without the ACA sabotage measures included.

Democrats said more than 20 House Republicans have indicated they would vote for the Senate's "clean" spending bill at this point to end the shutdown, and tried to coax these wavering Republicans to vote against GOP leaders.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/326673-gop-holds-firm-rejects-dem-move-to-vote-on-clean-spending-bill

Ah, now all my cognitive senses are operational, including those dealing with confusing sentence structure..

What the Senate wants passed is a CR (continuing resolution) which funds the government at present levels for a to-be-determined period of time. In true keeping with a Democratic Senate run by Harry Reid, there is still no budget from them since 2009.

Since you obviously did not read the link I provided which detailed the actions of the House in this CR fight, let me point out this quote from the link:

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"Early on the morning of Oct. 1, shortly after the last CR expired at midnight, the House GOP leadership put up a CR that no longer delayed Obamacare, and no longer protected religious liberty by preventing the administration from forcing people to buy coverage for sterilizations, contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs. This CR, however, did suspend for one year the Obamacare mandate forcing individual to buy insurance and did nullify a regulation issued by the Office of Personnel Management that would allow members of Congress and their staff to get a special subsidy to buy health insurance in the Obamacare exchanges.

This bill was approved 228-199, picking up 7 Democrat votes, but losing 9 Republican votes. The Democratic Senate immediately tabled it--thus killing it.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/growing-number-democrats-voting-house-gop-fund-non-obamacare-parts#sthash.1dcuWxYK.dpuf

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In other words, the House has already done as you suggest and voted on the CR, with the provision that the individual mandate be extended for one year just as Obama extended the employer mandate for one year and the additional provision that Members of Congress and their staffs would NOT get special tax payer funded subsidies to purchase their individual health care plans. Obamacare would remain funded.

The bill was approved by a vote of 228-199 and sent to the Senate, where it now languishes in the dust bin of history. In short, the Republican House of Representatives has already done what you think should be done, to no avail.

All Harry Reid has to do is pull out this legislation and have a vote on it in the Senate. If the Democrats agree, then send it to Obama for signature.

Viola! Problem solved...if Obama signs it.

[Chicog]

Yes Chuck, that's called "sabotaging the ACA".

This CR, however, did suspend for one year the Obamacare mandate forcing individual to buy insurance

However, there are now 20 republicans who've gone on record saying they would support a clean bill that does not involve the ACA.

Boehner is the one not permitting it - driven of course by his teabag chums.

Methinks the GOP are running out of wool.

[Jingthing]

That would kill Obamacare. It's a trap. The individual mandate is the lifeblood of the plan.

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[Publicus]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

[Chicog]

Signs of sanity in the GOP, even if the ones in charge cannot make the right decision.

Here's who those House Republicans are, and why they say they're done with trying to force through provisions to delay or defund Obamacare in order to keep the government running. We'll update the list when, or if, more come in.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/house-republicans-clean-cr_n_4024755.html?1380739351

[isawasnake]

I wish these guys could get this passionate about stuff like, I don't know, stopping unnecessary wars. The issues that tend to push the proverbial buttons on these politicians astounds me. "You're trying to get US citizens insured - how dare you. You want to start a multibillion dollar war, and all the while make the world hate us - go right ahead."

[MaxYakov]

Personally, I think this "new confederacy" is an existential threat to my country.

Yes, seriously. Much more so than Iran, Russia, China, etc.

It's time for Obama to put on his fighting gloves in the spirit of LINCOLN.

lincoln.jpg

The New Confederacy, as churlish toward President Obama as the Old Confederacy was to Lincoln, has accomplished what its predecessor could not: It has shut down the federal government, and without even firing a weapon or taking 620,000 lives, as did the Old Confederacy’s instigated Civil War.

Not stopping there, however, the New Confederacy aims to destroy the full faith and credit of the United States, setting off economic calamity at home and abroad — all in the name of “fiscal sanity.”

Its members are as extreme as their ideological forebears. It matters not to them, as it didn’t to the Old Confederacy, whether they ultimately go down in flames. So what? For the moment, they are getting what they want: a federal government in the ditch, restrained from seeking to create a more humane society that extends justice for all.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/colbert-king-the-tea-party-resurrects-the-spirit-of-the-old-confederacy/2013/10/04/95b37f6e-2c7b-11e3-97a3-ff2758228523_story.html?hpid=z2

Me too! Where can I get some 'New/Neo Confederacy' bumper stickers? I can use them to cover up the 'Global Warming' stickers I have now, saving my having to scrape them off. Do you think I can exchange my Carbon Credits for Neo-Confederacy Credits? (</sarc> for the Rio Lindians)

[F430murci]

Following is an article that points out where the real shutdown is happening. Read it only if you want to get some straight facts.

Sorry I couldn't find any Jon Stewart quotes to entertain some of you.

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Growing Number of Democrats Voting With House GOP to Fund Non-Obamacare Parts of Gov't

October 4, 2013 - 10:23 AM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - Over the past two weeks, a growing number of House Democrats have broken with their party leadership to vote with House Republicans to approve funding for parts of the federal government that do not involve implementing Obamacare.

The number of Democrats voting for funding bills put up by the House leadership that were then blocked by the Democrat-controlled Senate has grown from 2--who voted for a measure to fund the entire government except Obamacare--to as many as 36 who voted to pay members of the National Guard when on inactive-duty training.

However, because the Senate Democratic leadership has refused to support these measures, they have not been passed and sent on to President Obama to see if he would actually veto them to maintain his leverage in trying to force the House to fund Obamacare.

...Article continues here detailing all legislation passed by the House and stonewalled by the Democratic controlled Senate...

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/growing-number-democrats-voting-house-gop-fund-non-obamacare-parts

Conservative news network founded and owned by a guy that recently referred to Bama as a "skinny ghetto crackhead." My role model and go to source for the truth. Haha.

[chuckd]

Following is an article that points out where the real shutdown is happening. Read it only if you want to get some straight facts.

Sorry I couldn't find any Jon Stewart quotes to entertain some of you.

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Growing Number of Democrats Voting With House GOP to Fund Non-Obamacare Parts of Gov't

October 4, 2013 - 10:23 AM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - Over the past two weeks, a growing number of House Democrats have broken with their party leadership to vote with House Republicans to approve funding for parts of the federal government that do not involve implementing Obamacare.

The number of Democrats voting for funding bills put up by the House leadership that were then blocked by the Democrat-controlled Senate has grown from 2--who voted for a measure to fund the entire government except Obamacare--to as many as 36 who voted to pay members of the National Guard when on inactive-duty training.

However, because the Senate Democratic leadership has refused to support these measures, they have not been passed and sent on to President Obama to see if he would actually veto them to maintain his leverage in trying to force the House to fund Obamacare.

...Article continues here detailing all legislation passed by the House and stonewalled by the Democratic controlled Senate...

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/growing-number-democrats-voting-house-gop-fund-non-obamacare-parts

Conservative news network founded and owned by a guy that recently referred to Bama as a "skinny ghetto crackhead." My role model and go to source for the truth. Haha.

Link?

[boomerangutang]

It may be interesting to note that, in Bill Clinton's 1st term, Hillary tried royally to get a comprehensive, inclusive health care bill going. She did immense amounts of research, but Republicans badgered her every step of the way. It had little to do with the merits or drawbacks of the plan, but instead the resistance was because it was a Democratic initiative, it couldn't be allowed to see the light of day. Years later, Obama was able to get something passed as law. Now Reps want to rescind it - for same reasons they badgered Hillary Clinton. Not because of its drawbacks, but because it's an initiative which came from the other side of the aisle. Partisan politicking at its ugliest.

[Chicog]

Link?

Certainly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Research_Center

Media Research Center president Bozell appeared on [/size]Fox News and suggested U.S. President Barack Obama looks like a "skinny ghetto crackhead."[/size]

Seems like you've been quoting some comedians of your own, Chuck.

[F430murci]

Following is an article that points out where the real shutdown is happening. Read it only if you want to get some straight facts.

Sorry I couldn't find any Jon Stewart quotes to entertain some of you.

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Growing Number of Democrats Voting With House GOP to Fund Non-Obamacare Parts of Gov't

October 4, 2013 - 10:23 AM

By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - Over the past two weeks, a growing number of House Democrats have broken with their party leadership to vote with House Republicans to approve funding for parts of the federal government that do not involve implementing Obamacare.

The number of Democrats voting for funding bills put up by the House leadership that were then blocked by the Democrat-controlled Senate has grown from 2--who voted for a measure to fund the entire government except Obamacare--to as many as 36 who voted to pay members of the National Guard when on inactive-duty training.

However, because the Senate Democratic leadership has refused to support these measures, they have not been passed and sent on to President Obama to see if he would actually veto them to maintain his leverage in trying to force the House to fund Obamacare.

...Article continues here detailing all legislation passed by the House and stonewalled by the Democratic controlled Senate...

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/growing-number-democrats-voting-house-gop-fund-non-obamacare-parts

Conservative news network founded and owned by a guy that recently referred to Bama as a "skinny ghetto crackhead." My role model and go to source for the truth. Haha.

Link?

Google? Bozell and the statement . . .

[Ulysses G.]

Now Reps want to rescind it - for same reasons they badgered Hillary Clinton. Not because of its drawbacks, but because it's an initiative which came from the other side of the aisle.

Perhaps, but, more and more, it really is looking like a train wreck. I am all for single payer health care, but this ponzi scheme is not going to work. It depends on young, healthy workers subsidizing poor people, but most young, healthy workers do not make great deal of money and they are going to resent the high premiums that they have to pay. Is the middle class going to revolt when they realize that almost nothing Obama has told them about this plan is true?

[Scott]

An off-topic post has been deleted.

Stay on topic.

[chuckd]

An off-topic post has been deleted.

Stay on topic.

I was in the process of deleting it when you did.

[NeverSure]

It may be interesting to note that, in Bill Clinton's 1st term, Hillary tried royally to get a comprehensive, inclusive health care bill going. She did immense amounts of research, but Republicans badgered her every step of the way. It had little to do with the merits or drawbacks of the plan, but instead the resistance was because it was a Democratic initiative, it couldn't be allowed to see the light of day. Years later, Obama was able to get something passed as law. Now Reps want to rescind it - for same reasons they badgered Hillary Clinton. Not because of its drawbacks, but because it's an initiative which came from the other side of the aisle. Partisan politicking at its ugliest.

What do you mean by "comprehensive, inclusive health care bill?"

It is that for sure, and if by comprehensive you mean it's now thousands of pages, then I'd agree.

If by inclusive, you mean it forces everyone to buy his own insurance or pay a fine, and penalizes the young and others as an effective tax to make it work, then yes those who are forced and penalized are included.

"A Manhattan Institute study I helped conduct suggests that average to younger-than-average men will face underlying rate hikes of 97 to 99 percent, with women facing increases of 55 to 62 percent.

AAF: 30-year-old men face average premium hikes of 260%..."

"In a sense, the AAF study is more relevant to the problem at hand. Obamacare makes healthy people pay more for insurance in order to subsidize sicker people. It makes younger people pay more to subsidize older people. It makes men pay more to subsidize women.

It makes everyone pay more to cover benefits, taxes, and fees that consumers might not ordinarily want." (emphasis mine)

LINK

[F430murci]

The House on Saturday unanimously approved legislation to provide retroactive pay for furloughed federal workers after the government shutdown ends. The vote was 407-0.

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I get why they are doing to try and keep from turning away votes and being hated, but they complain about spending money and now they want to pay how much for people not working or being productive. What's that again. Paid vacations for 800,000 for how long and producing no income.

Screw political lines. This is all a bunch of malarkey.

Smart move for Bama is:

Tell Reid and all demo senators to vote for it also and than Bama will just veto it. That way the senate dems don't get into hot water with the federal workers and Bama is not seeking re-election anyway.

Ridiculous Republican grand standing and they ain't even that smart. Better yet, is all the yahoos flying confederate flags drinking PBR falling for all of the bs. Sweet!

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http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/05/20822136-house-unanimously-approves-back-pay-for-800000-furloughed-federal-workers?lite

[Ulysses G.]

The House on Saturday unanimously approved legislation to provide retroactive pay for furloughed federal workers after the government shutdown ends. The vote was 407-0.

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I get why they are doing to try and keep from turning away votes and being hated, but they complain about spending money and now they want to pay how much for people not working or being productive. What's that again. Paid vacations for 800,000 for how long and producing no income.

Those workers did not want to be furloughed. It is not their fault that they were and they lost income. That is not exactly a "vacation". I don't understand your logic on this, other than another reason to attack the Republcans.

[NeverSure]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

[Publicus]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

[NeverSure]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

Wow are you confused. The Feds still collect a lot of income from taxes and will pay their debts first. So how does that affect the full faith and credit? What they've done is lay off about 800,000 federal workers and close some things down. I hope it stays that way. Talk about a bloated government.

[Publicus]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

Wow are you confused. The Feds still collect a lot of income from taxes and will pay their debts first. So how does that affect the full faith and credit? What they've done is lay off about 800,000 federal workers and close some things down. I hope it stays that way. Talk about a bloated government.

The full faith and credit of the United States.

[EricBerg]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

Wow are you confused. The Feds still collect a lot of income from taxes and will pay their debts first. So how does that affect the full faith and credit? What they've done is lay off about 800,000 federal workers and close some things down. I hope it stays that way. Talk about a bloated government.

One cannot pay debts by printing about 85 BILLION usd extra EACH MONTH. That's a TRILLION per year. And that is economical suicide. The usd will be worth crap. The once great country will implode.

[boomerangutang]

Someone posted above saying, "the Feds ....will pay their debts first."

Not so sure that will be top priority. Even Obama expressed doubts about that, particularly in lieu of the debt-ceiling debacle which will show its fuzzy head in a few days.

Now Reps want to rescind it - for same reasons they badgered Hillary Clinton. Not because of its drawbacks, but because it's an initiative which came from the other side of the aisle.

Perhaps, but, more and more, it really is looking like a train wreck. I am all for single payer health care, but this ponzi scheme is not going to work. It depends on young, healthy workers subsidizing poor people, but most young, healthy workers do not make great deal of money and they are going to resent the high premiums that they have to pay. Is the middle class going to revolt when they realize that almost nothing Obama has told them about this plan is true?

Social Security could be called a 'Ponzi scheme' for that matter. ACA is a large program, just getting started. It could well have numerous glitches - hopefully they're fixable. The way to fix it is to work within the framework of adjusting laws. The way not to fix it is to use it as a hostage to cripple the operations of the Federal government. We all know the Fed budget is obscenely bloated. I would love to have a blue pen (I'd need a fat fistful of pens) and mark out the excesses. But alas, if I or you want to do that, we've got to work within the system.

Probably the main cause of health care being so expensive in the US (no matter how it's paid for) is the excessive fees charged by health care workers and facilities. That's a tough nut to crack, and a big reason why so many Americans go overseas to get medical stuff done.

[Loptr]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

Yes, it does. When an tax as irresponsible as the ACA is being mandated on the American people, you better believe it's worth shutting down the federal government. But as to your assertion that the GOP has shut down the government, you would be wrong. The House has sent 4 separate bills to the Senate and Harry Reid refuses to put them on the floor for a vote or to negotiate with the House. So who shut down the government? It doesn't matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.

The Federal government is not shut down as 83% of all agencies are functioning normally. With the notable exception of the Parks dept which has had to bring on extra help to keep citizens from visiting.

Here are a few doozies from the petty folks in power. 83% of government still running and Obama & company making it as painful as possible for the public.

Where's sense of crisis in a 17% government shutdown?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wheres-sense-of-crisis-in-a-17-percent-government-shutdown/article/2536862

Feds attempt to close the ocean

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown

Police remove Vietnam Vets from Memorial Wall

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nbc-police-remove-vietnam-war-veterans-memorial-wall_759267.html

National Memorials closed to veterans

“It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-the-game/

[Publicus]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

Yes, it does. When an tax as irresponsible as the ACA is being mandated on the American people, you better believe it's worth shutting down the federal government. But as to your assertion that the GOP has shut down the government, you would be wrong. The House has sent 4 separate bills to the Senate and Harry Reid refuses to put them on the floor for a vote or to negotiate with the House. So who shut down the government? It doesn't matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.

The Federal government is not shut down as 83% of all agencies are functioning normally. With the notable exception of the Parks dept which has had to bring on extra help to keep citizens from visiting.

Here are a few doozies from the petty folks in power. 83% of government still running and Obama & company making it as painful as possible for the public.

Where's sense of crisis in a 17% government shutdown?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wheres-sense-of-crisis-in-a-17-percent-government-shutdown/article/2536862

Feds attempt to close the ocean

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown

Police remove Vietnam Vets from Memorial Wall

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nbc-police-remove-vietnam-war-veterans-memorial-wall_759267.html

National Memorials closed to veterans

“It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-the-game/

We can agree that no matter how many times someone tells a lie, it's still a lie.

[Ulysses G.]

Indeed.

"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

-Barack Obama

[Publicus]

Indeed.

"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

-Barack Obama

Republicans in Washington have turned Obamacare into a crime scene but have not fled the scene. They have the gall to stick around and to boast about it.

[HeijoshinCool]

Every Republican party action in connection with the CR has the single and absolute purpose of defeating Obamcare, i.e., the Affordable Care Act.

Closing the government to try to stop a law is extra constitutional.

It's the Confederates, all of whom are charging into fixed bayonets.

Obamacare Facebook Erupts with Citizen Sticker Shock

On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country.

"I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes."

"There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies."

Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers:

Link

This blip justifies the Republican party shutting down the government and destroying the full faith and credit of the United States by refusing to increase the debt ceiling?!

Radical!

Yes, it does. When an tax as irresponsible as the ACA is being mandated on the American people, you better believe it's worth shutting down the federal government. But as to your assertion that the GOP has shut down the government, you would be wrong. The House has sent 4 separate bills to the Senate and Harry Reid refuses to put them on the floor for a vote or to negotiate with the House. So who shut down the government? It doesn't matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.

The Federal government is not shut down as 83% of all agencies are functioning normally. With the notable exception of the Parks dept which has had to bring on extra help to keep citizens from visiting.

Here are a few doozies from the petty folks in power. 83% of government still running and Obama & company making it as painful as possible for the public.

Where's sense of crisis in a 17% government shutdown?

http://washingtonexaminer.com/wheres-sense-of-crisis-in-a-17-percent-government-shutdown/article/2536862

Feds attempt to close the ocean

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown

Police remove Vietnam Vets from Memorial Wall

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nbc-police-remove-vietnam-war-veterans-memorial-wall_759267.html

National Memorials closed to veterans

“It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-the-game/

loptr-

A shame you can only "like" a post once.

Feds close the ocean! Pathetic little cry babies. Now they are preventing non-government workers from making a living.

Keeping 90 year old vets from reflecting on their service, while standing on low maintenance concrete, in front of usually unmanned memorials?

Pathetic.

When the friends I played with as a boy acted like this, my mom sent them home and called their mommies.