China asked to design Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima high-speed train route

[Thai at Heart]

The PRChinese got aced out of Burma by the United States alone - the CIA andof all thingsthe State Department and the Treasury。CIA organized the monks Velvet Revolution while State and Treasury cut off all global economic and financial dealings with Burma except for the CCP-PRC in Beijing。Corneredthe junta threw up their hands。Asean took notice and has taken notice very well。

The Philippines is beating up on the CCP before the UN Tribunal on the International Law of the Seawhere Beijing is losing its outrageous clam of sovereignty over almost all of the South China Sea。Beiing is doing so badly before the Tribunal a decision is expected late next year instead of three years yet。Legal experts are saying they'd rather be sitting in Manila's chair than in Beijing's。

India and Vietnam have successfully told Beijing to buzz out after Beijing had warned Vietnam not to tender an offshore leasing option to India and with much gallwarned India not to accept the tender。Vietnam and India are proceeding while Beijing fumes。

Thai political elites connect with Beijing and some old line Sino-Thai business types do a lot of business with the CCP-PRC CP Group especially which operates a lotta Lotus supermarkets on the mainland。

The army however doesn't like the republican CCP-PRC and has its own economic and financial interests to protect。And the CCP's ideology isn't particularly appealing to the Thai military types either。

Beijing's like anyone else - they win somethey lose some and some get rained out。

Nor did Beijing ever always get its way。

A very rational explanation. The one group in there that scare me are CP and their cohorts. They seem to be the very acceptable face of business that weedles it's way into every Asian country's agribusiness, and ends up controlling it. These guys are very very closely related to the Chinese government and I often worry about what exactly their motivation is. Virtually no one in China knows that Chia Thai is a thai company, and virtually no one in Thailand knows about their massively strong connections and business in China. They are in Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma and Laos. Is there a single market in SE Asia they don't have a massive percentage of ALL the agribusiness?

They get access to things in China that no one else can, and in return, they infiltrate everyone's agribusiness. One decision in China, and they could virtually starve South East Asia if they wanted to.

For sureCP Group is an octopus and giant squid at the same time too。

It's also in India and now entering the Philippines。

As mean as the Boyz in Beijing areI don't think anyone will be starving anyone anytime soon。Given how the CCP thinks and operates tho, I'd get more concerned about wholesale poisoning of populations in any extreme crisis, but that's about it.

CP Group has the 7-Eleven franchise for Thailand and for all of the CCP-PRC, which 　　　　　　　　　　　　。

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They can manipulate the food markets in se Asia. Amazing how they appear to be so universally welcome everywhere.

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The PRChinese got aced out of Burma by the United States alone - the CIA andof all thingsthe State Department and the Treasury。CIA organized the monks Velvet Revolution while State and Treasury cut off all global economic and financial dealings with Burma except for the CCP-PRC in Beijing。Corneredthe junta threw up their hands。Asean took notice and has taken notice very well。

The Philippines is beating up on the CCP before the UN Tribunal on the International Law of the Seawhere Beijing is losing its outrageous clam of sovereignty over almost all of the South China Sea。Beiing is doing so badly before the Tribunal a decision is expected late next year instead of three years yet。Legal experts are saying they'd rather be sitting in Manila's chair than in Beijing's。

India and Vietnam have successfully told Beijing to buzz out after Beijing had warned Vietnam not to tender an offshore leasing option to India and with much gallwarned India not to accept the tender。Vietnam and India are proceeding while Beijing fumes。

Thai political elites connect with Beijing and some old line Sino-Thai business types do a lot of business with the CCP-PRC CP Group especially which operates a lotta Lotus supermarkets on the mainland。

The army however doesn't like the republican CCP-PRC and has its own economic and financial interests to protect。And the CCP's ideology isn't particularly appealing to the Thai military types either。

Beijing's like anyone else - they win somethey lose some and some get rained out。

Nor did Beijing ever always get its way。

A very rational explanation. The one group in there that scare me are CP and their cohorts. They seem to be the very acceptable face of business that weedles it's way into every Asian country's agribusiness, and ends up controlling it. These guys are very very closely related to the Chinese government and I often worry about what exactly their motivation is. Virtually no one in China knows that Chia Thai is a thai company, and virtually no one in Thailand knows about their massively strong connections and business in China. They are in Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma and Laos. Is there a single market in SE Asia they don't have a massive percentage of ALL the agribusiness?

They get access to things in China that no one else can, and in return, they infiltrate everyone's agribusiness. One decision in China, and they could virtually starve South East Asia if they wanted to.

For sureCP Group is an octopus and giant squid at the same time too。

It's also in India and now entering the Philippines。

As mean as the Boyz in Beijing areI don't think anyone will be starving anyone anytime soon。Given how the CCP thinks and operates tho, I'd get more concerned about wholesale poisoning of populations in any extreme crisis, but that's about it.

CP Group has the 7-Eleven franchise for Thailand and for all of the CCP-PRC, which 　　　　　　　　　　　　。

　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　。

They can manipulate the food markets in se Asia. Amazing how they appear to be so universally welcome everywhere.

I'd have to say（this isn't my computer I'm using）a major reason CP Group is so welcome is that it brings qualities desperately needed by countries of the region，to include the CCP-PRC.

CP goes back 100 years and has in recent decades acquired much needed techniques and technologies even countries such as the CCP-PRC needs and wants。CP has acquired from the West reliable food safety factors，techniques，innovations and so much in this respect，and has learned about producing frozen foods and other processes vital to modern food retailing。

CP acquired methods， breeding knowledge，animal feed improvements and the like for farmers that pleases both farmers and governments responsible for making sure the population doesn't begin to resemble N Korea.

CCP- PRC mainland corporations had food safety foremost in mind when they recently acquired a New Zealand dairy production company，given the notorious record of mainland producers of dairy products， milk especially and in particular。

It's no coincidence either that CP is most welcome in the CCP-PRC where pork is the number one meat consumed，followed by chicken。This is common in developing economies，which is where the “Chicken&Pork” Group is enjoying its immense successes。

[alant]

wdr, on 05 Nov 2013 - 12:02, said:

Project will be done after Thailand is an "Autonomous Province of China"

That's the long term plan.. They have Laos in their pocket already

That's another of Beijing's fantasies, yes. However, after 20 years of hard work, bucks and heavy investment Beijing has lost Myanmar to the US。

Myanmar has stopped all new development by Beijing, to include the onerous dams that had been under construction up in the North that have the population there up in arms. The energy pipeline just came online but that will basically be it for Beijing in Myanmar. And under the new scheme of things, the US has extracted veto authority over all foreign investment in Myanmar. Exit Beijing.

Beijing's control over SE Asia is now limited to two long time pals and servants, Laos and Cambodia which are not exactly power brokers in Asean or elsewhere.

Thailand is a US treaty ally, as is the Philippines. Malaysia is allowing US Navy ships to visit for the first time, which is of significance because Malaysia borders

the vital Malacca Strait.

Singapore wants to buy a bunch of the US's newest fighter jet the F-35 which is just coming online - Japan already will get a couple of wings of the F-35 early next year.

Most of the rustbuckets of the Thai Navy are made in China ships (thanks to Chavalit) and the Thai army has warehouses full of junk Chinese weapons because don't work. Why should the often crashed Chinese high speed trains work any better in Thailand? The Thais would have been much better off contracting with Japan or Germany, or France.

Thais never learn because they can't learn. So they always pay the price, and then some.

"However, after 20 years of hard work, bucks and heavy investment Beijing has lost Myanmar to the US。

Myanmar has stopped all new development by Beijing, to include the onerous dams that had been under construction up in the North that have the population there up in arms. The energy pipeline just came online but that will basically be it for Beijing in Myanmar. And under the new scheme of things, the US has extracted veto authority over all foreign investment in Myanmar. Exit Beijing."

Ha Ha, velly funny as the Chinese all but own the bankrupt United States of America.

and I nearly forgot, the F-35 doesn't work...

Edited November 6, 2013 by alant

[mca]

MADE IN CHINA! As an American, there is no need to say anything more. But, for those of you who are not from the USA, MADE IN CHINA means CHEAP!

http://www.jiesworld.com/international_corporations_in_china.htm

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wdr, on 05 Nov 2013 - 12:02, said:

Project will be done after Thailand is an "Autonomous Province of China"

That's the long term plan.. They have Laos in their pocket already

That's another of Beijing's fantasies, yes. However, after 20 years of hard work, bucks and heavy investment Beijing has lost Myanmar to the US。

Myanmar has stopped all new development by Beijing, to include the onerous dams that had been under construction up in the North that have the population there up in arms. The energy pipeline just came online but that will basically be it for Beijing in Myanmar. And under the new scheme of things, the US has extracted veto authority over all foreign investment in Myanmar. Exit Beijing.

Beijing's control over SE Asia is now limited to two long time pals and servants, Laos and Cambodia which are not exactly power brokers in Asean or elsewhere.

Thailand is a US treaty ally, as is the Philippines. Malaysia is allowing US Navy ships to visit for the first time, which is of significance because Malaysia borders

the vital Malacca Strait.

Singapore wants to buy a bunch of the US's newest fighter jet the F-35 which is just coming online - Japan already will get a couple of wings of the F-35 early next year.

Most of the rustbuckets of the Thai Navy are made in China ships (thanks to Chavalit) and the Thai army has warehouses full of junk Chinese weapons because don't work. Why should the often crashed Chinese high speed trains work any better in Thailand? The Thais would have been much better off contracting with Japan or Germany, or France.

Thais never learn because they can't learn. So they always pay the price, and then some.

"However, after 20 years of hard work, bucks and heavy investment Beijing has lost Myanmar to the US。

Myanmar has stopped all new development by Beijing, to include the onerous dams that had been under construction up in the North that have the population there up in arms. The energy pipeline just came online but that will basically be it for Beijing in Myanmar. And under the new scheme of things, the US has extracted veto authority over all foreign investment in Myanmar. Exit Beijing."

Ha Ha, velly funny as the Chinese all but own the bankrupt United States of America.

and I nearly forgot, the F-35 doesn't work...

The CCP doesn't like it either to have been expelled from any further investments in Myanmar, nor does Beijing like that the Thai government will contract with a Japanese company to further construct the Bangkok metro rail system.

Asean is doing business with Beijing, trade and also Beijing's copied technologies, yet Asean is simultaneously keeping the CCP at a reasonably comfortable distance.

Which means you misunderstand when you say with impunity "the Chinese all but own the bankrupt United States of America."

This statement is also made out of massive ignorance.

For instance, there is an old banking saying which goes: “If you owe your bank a thousand pounds, you are at their mercy. If you owe a million pounds, then the position is reversed.”

Accordingly, people who know finance and monetary policies and issues will tell you the CCP-PRC with its $1.2 trillion in USD holdings is in fact in a “dollar trap.”

Let me try to make that easier for you to catch hold of.

The CCP could sell off some, most or all of its United States government debt holdings, but that would spike inflation in the CCP-PRC to the same extent as US T-Bills would be called in. That's because the CCP's economy and financial system would be flooded with M1 and M2 cash - every category of money would become bloated.

It also would be devastating to the CCP's export sector.

As to the United States of America, interest payments on government instruments would increase, bringing in the revenue lost by paying off the CCP.

Further, the US Treasury Department sells its debt at auction to the lowest bidder. If the CCP becomes unwilling to buy at a rate low enough, then the Federal Reserve will step in and buy the Treasury's debt sales. That's one of the luxuries of being the world's reserve currency - the US can set its own debt standards (despite Republican Party hysteria).

Conversely, if the CCP stops buying US Government debt instruments, the value of the RMB would spike, likely even skyrocket, resulting in PRC exports pricing themselves out of the global markets everywhere.

And the F-35, a breathtakingly sophisticated piece of technology, is doing just fine, thank you. It's fully and reliable operational and will be deployed early next year.

What If China Stops Buying U.S. Government Debt? - Forbes‏

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2013/10/06/what-if-china-stops-buying-u-s-government-debt/?utm_source=followingdaily

The Dollar Trap: China’s Misunderstood Foreign Exchange Reserves

http://thediplomat.com/pacific-money/2012/09/28/the-dollar-trap-chinas-misunderstood-foreign-exchange-reserves/

[bangkokrick]

Has anyone here actually been on one of the Chinese high speed trains or are you taking the information from the media? Or maybe its just the historical Western feel good factor that all Chinese made things are cheap crap. I have ridden these trains tens of times and i can assure you that they are not crap, they are well constructed and very comfortable. Yes there was a crash in the early days but are we saying that there are no train crashes in the US and europe. Google it and you will find that there have been many.

I took this picture last week when I traveled the high speed train for 5 hours and it reached a maximum speed of 304 Km's per hour. It was of course on time and did not crash as I live to tell the tale.