Group 'ready' with nominee for Thai PM

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Group 'ready' with nominee for PM
Hataikarn Treesuwan
The Nation

Committee will go public if Yingluck, Cabinet step down, and will step up pressure if they don't, says Thaworn

BANGKOK: -- The People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) already has the name of the person it intends to nominate as interim prime minister, and has also drawn up the proposed membership of a "people's council".

It is ready to announce the names to the public immediately if Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra and her Cabinet resign from their caretaking duties, core PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam said yesterday.

He insisted that the Yingluck government was illegitimate, since it had rejected the Constitutional Court's ruling on amending the charter to make the Senate a fully elected body.

"The PDRC would not accuse the caretaker Cabinet of violating Article 157 of the Criminal Code if they stepped down from their role. But if Yingluck and her fellow Cabinet members do not so, we are ready to put more pressure on them to get them out of their posts this week," he said.

PDRC leaders have readied themselves for the appointment of an interim prime minister and the forming of a people's council, under Article 3 of the Constitution.

"I have no idea what will happen first. In some revolutions, a council is established first, but sometimes a prime minister is appointed first. The PDRC will make a decision in accordance with the prevailing situation," he added.

According to Thaworn, the structure of a people's council would comprise groups representing different professions, civil society, government officers and the media, with the qualification that they have not been prosecuted for corruption or seizure of property, among things.

"We had learned from the lessons of the National Legislative Assembly and Constitution Drafting Committee. And we would prevent the people's council from making the same mistakes as them," he insisted.

However, the people's council would not contain too many members, he said, because there would be no need for them to vote as they would use discussion and consultation to find a consensus in their important role, especially in the drafting process for a new constitution and related laws.

The PDRC co-leader admitted that the committee needed to explain in more detail to the public how articles 3 and 7 of the Constitution were to be applied in this situation, because the "people's revolution" was a new movement of Thailand.

"Overturning the constitution is not that difficult, but if we did so, the PDRC would have no mandate, according to the law, to order agencies [to carry out tasks]. We could use an interim constitution, and actually we have prepared and we can use the previous edition, but that's for the future," he said.

"At this time, the PDRC cannot claim that it has absolutely won. But, once it does, it is preparing to call for the heads of government offices to report to the PDRC to perform as a caretaker cabinet. You know government officers always obey their bosses," he said.

He said the most important condition that would show the PDRC had achieved victory was that it now had somebody who would become the next premier. "Now we have someone [a candidate to be the next PM] who is sincere and not corrupt. [if] we cannot find someone who is [totally] innocent [in life], we can choose the most innocent," he said.


-- The Nation 2013-12-12

[96tehtarp]

Core PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam, who is a DP yellow from Songkla, said yesterday;

"the Yingluck government was illegitimate, since it had rejected the Constitutional Court's ruling on amending the charter to make the Senate a fully elected body."

The constitutional court's ruling has been widely confirmed as being unconstitutional.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"I have no idea what will happen first. In some revolutions, a council is established first, but sometimes a prime minister is appointed first. The PDRC will make a decision in accordance with the prevailing situation," he added.

We now have a revolution, to be led by an unconstitutional revolutionary people's council without any democratic mandate who will make their unilateral decision on behalf of all Thai people to be announced at a time and place the PDRC best sees fit.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"the people's council would not contain too many members, he said, because there would be no need for them to vote as they would use discussion and consultation to find a consensus in their important role, especially in the drafting process for a new constitution and related laws."

What is described above is a politburo, or rather a politburo in waiting;

"Overturning the constitution is not that difficult, but if we did so, the PDRC would have no mandate, according to the law, to order agencies [to carry out tasks]. We could use an interim constitution, and actually we have prepared and we can use the previous edition, but that's for the future," he said.

Overturning the constitution, again? This is a revolution. See above.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"At this time, the PDRC cannot claim that it has absolutely won. But, once it does, it is preparing to call for the heads of government offices to report to the PDRC to perform as a caretaker cabinet. You know government officers always obey their bosses".

The above statement is Orwellian.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"He said the most important condition that would show the PDRC had achieved victory was that it now had somebody who would become the next premier. "Now we have someone [a candidate to be the next PM] who is sincere and not corrupt. [if] we cannot find someone who is [totally] innocent [in life], we can choose the most innocent."

Who will the candidate be?

The situation in Thailand is certainly dire and spiraling fast from one state of lawlessness to another by the minute.

Who will save Thailand?

[macgver]

The political deadlock will never end. Pray for Thailand and His Majesty!

[Emptyset]

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"He said the most important condition that would show the PDRC had achieved victory was that it now had somebody who would become the next premier. "Now we have someone [a candidate to be the next PM] who is sincere and not corrupt. [if] we cannot find someone who is [totally] innocent [in life], we can choose the most innocent."

Who will the candidate be?

The situation in Thailand is certainly dire and spiraling fast from one state of lawlessness to another by the minute.

Who will save Thailand?

Palakorn, with Prawit and Surin as outside bets. Pridiyathorn in as finance min problaby. But who really knows? The list is kept in a very secure place, a distant fortress guarded by Heimdall. Not even Sean Crispin or Andrew MacGregor Marshall who have vast access to this realm are aware of the full details...

[samuibeachcomber]

keep your money safe and passport ready.

[noitom]

This is a gas. They are "ready" to name him. Thailand is a gas. Of the flatulence variety.

[greg71]

Caretaker government, And then what happens when the dems lose again in Feb? Anarchy or peace ,will they act like spoilt kids jumping up and down on the spot if dont recieve candy .This is getting dire everyday .

Edited December 12, 2013 by greg71

[Jasun]

Someone let Napoleon out of the pig farm.

[Spartakos]

Thailand find itself in a tight spot. Suthep promisses change which i agree should take place before any new election take place, otherwise we will have PTP's " we do whatever we want coz we got most votes" scenario again.

Are his mean justified? Could we trust him? But honestly, is there anyone else offering change? Surely not current goverment or it's future reincarnations.

[smutcakes]

Am I understanding this correctly, that they are saying the Govt violated the Constitution by trying to instill elected senators which they will file charges against if she does not step down and install a caretaker PM, but they are prepared to compromise and not file charges for breach of criminal code if she does step down. All seems a bit contradictory- on the one hand you cannot break this law, but on the other we will turn a blind eye if you break another one.

[culicine]

Not enough details - name names NOW, give a time for the transition back to elections, then run a referendum to see if it's supported. Suthep is digging himself into a hole and losing support but moderates every day. The democrats better make sure all ties with him are severed forever.

[gerrythepoet]

Is PDRC the new face of PAD?

[smutcakes]

Not enough details - name names NOW, give a time for the transition back to elections, then run a referendum to see if it's supported. Suthep is digging himself into a hole and losing support but moderates every day. The democrats better make sure all ties with him are severed forever.

I agree, i think if he i serious about this, and it is the people's revolution he has to put the name or some candidates out there, at least for people too understand what type of person he has in mind. It cannot all be cloak and dagger agreeing with him and his idea and then release a proposed name which large amounts of people would be against. For the life of me i cannot think of someone in the higher echelons of society in Thailand who could be respected enough for him to be acceptable to both sides. Perhaps the guy Kanit na Nakorn who did that rather fence sitting report previously on reconciliation. Seems fairly harmless and quite happy to sit on the fence, perhaps both sides will be accepting of that. Plus he is probably old enough to not be to worried about his political future.

[Spare]

Khun Anan should be the Neutral PM.

Or Khun Prem or Khun Surayud.

[Zolt]

Khun Anan should be the Neutral PM.

Or Khun Prem or Khun Surayud.

It's deja vu all over again. How old is Prem now, 93?

[Pib]

I'm beginning to wonder who would win a "Most Crazy" contest between Suthep and Chalerm. Before I thought Chalerm would win hands down but now I'm thinking Suthep would win.

[AleG]

This is insane, they must be tripping on Kool-Aid.

They should be shown into a padded cell where they can spout this gibberish among themselves harmlessly.

[newcomer71]

Ok, the guys here declared already many times between the lines they wanted to do a coup and install a dictatorship, but this interview confirms it in big style.

Hit them now, before it's too late. For the good of Thailand.

[Thailand]

I have the inside track- they are nominating Elvis!

[Nibbles48]

Caretaker government, And then what happens when the dems lose again in Feb? Anarchy or peace ,will they act like spoilt kids jumping up and down on the spot if dont recieve candy .This is getting dire everyday .

You still don't know what is going on, yet you like to comment.

The committee is only there for the overhaul to remove corruption and make the constitution less vulnerable to manipulation and misinterpretation, as well as clamping down and eradicating vote buying.

Then the elections will happen, but not before the reforms.

The elections will not happen on Feb 2nd. They will be voided, they won't be accepted and nothing will change until the change is made.

That is what is happening.

[chooka]

And the winner is SUTHEP.

[SICHONSTEVE]

Core PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam, who is a DP yellow from Songkla, said yesterday;

"the Yingluck government was illegitimate, since it had rejected the Constitutional Court's ruling on amending the charter to make the Senate a fully elected body."

The constitutional court's ruling has been widely confirmed as being unconstitutional.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"I have no idea what will happen first. In some revolutions, a council is established first, but sometimes a prime minister is appointed first. The PDRC will make a decision in accordance with the prevailing situation," he added.

We now have a revolution, to be led by an unconstitutional revolutionary people's council without any democratic mandate who will make their unilateral decision on behalf of all Thai people to be announced at a time and place the PDRC best sees fit.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"the people's council would not contain too many members, he said, because there would be no need for them to vote as they would use discussion and consultation to find a consensus in their important role, especially in the drafting process for a new constitution and related laws."

What is described above is a politburo, or rather a politburo in waiting;

"Overturning the constitution is not that difficult, but if we did so, the PDRC would have no mandate, according to the law, to order agencies [to carry out tasks]. We could use an interim constitution, and actually we have prepared and we can use the previous edition, but that's for the future," he said.

Overturning the constitution, again? This is a revolution. See above.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"At this time, the PDRC cannot claim that it has absolutely won. But, once it does, it is preparing to call for the heads of government offices to report to the PDRC to perform as a caretaker cabinet. You know government officers always obey their bosses".

The above statement is Orwellian.

PDRC co-leader Thaworn Senneam also said;

"He said the most important condition that would show the PDRC had achieved victory was that it now had somebody who would become the next premier. "Now we have someone [a candidate to be the next PM] who is sincere and not corrupt. [if] we cannot find someone who is [totally] innocent [in life], we can choose the most innocent."

Who will the candidate be?

The situation in Thailand is certainly dire and spiraling fast from one state of lawlessness to another by the minute.

Who will save Thailand?

They will, hopefully - I wish them good haste in their task!!

[55Jay]

Sounds like Nancy Pelosi on Obamacare. You can see what the bill contains after it's voted in. Trust me, everyone will love this new bill.

Good to read that there won't be too many members on the People's Council. I was thinking yesterday, maybe around, oh I don't know, 150 or so? By sheer coincidence, roughly that many Democrat Ex-MPs are available for work immediately.

No voting required, just discussion to reach consensus ~ the consensus, of course, will be determined and announced by the single party leader before any meaningless discussion is allowed to take place.

[Diplomatico]

Caretaker government, And then what happens when the dems lose again in Feb? Anarchy or peace ,will they act like spoilt kids jumping up and down on the spot if dont recieve candy .This is getting dire everyday .

You still don't know what is going on, yet you like to comment.

The committee is only there for the overhaul to remove corruption and make the constitution less vulnerable to manipulation and misinterpretation, as well as clamping down and eradicating vote buying.

Then the elections will happen, but not before the reforms.

The elections will not happen on Feb 2nd. They will be voided, they won't be accepted and nothing will change until the change is made.

That is what is happening.

No, that is what the minority, who lacks any authority to do anything at all, would LIKE to have happen.

[bigbamboo]

The political deadlock will never end. Pray for Thailand and His Majesty!

And pray for Phra Thep.

[Baerboxer]

I have the inside track- they are nominating Elvis!

Oh no! Whose going to work in our chip shop if he becomes the new PM

[Diplomatico]

I have the inside track- they are nominating Elvis!

Oh no! Whose going to work in our chip shop if he becomes the new PM

Jim Morrison, perhaps?

[newcomer71]

Caretaker government, And then what happens when the dems lose again in Feb? Anarchy or peace ,will they act like spoilt kids jumping up and down on the spot if dont recieve candy .This is getting dire everyday .

You still don't know what is going on, yet you like to comment.

The committee is only there for the overhaul to remove corruption and make the constitution less vulnerable to manipulation and misinterpretation, as well as clamping down and eradicating vote buying.

Then the elections will happen, but not before the reforms.

The elections will not happen on Feb 2nd. They will be voided, they won't be accepted and nothing will change until the change is made.

That is what is happening.

After read that interview you still think so?

Do you think the "people" have the right to know names of who will compose the "Council"? And why they not tell who would be the PM ad interim, if they already decided it? They who?

Reforms are needed, a dictatorship NOT.

[jpeg]

Caretaker government, And then what happens when the dems lose again in Feb? Anarchy or peace ,will they act like spoilt kids jumping up and down on the spot if dont recieve candy .This is getting dire everyday .

Who said there was going to be a farcical (too soon and no opposition party) 'election' in February (please see updated news), as in the situation leading up to 2006. You remember? When everyone was sick to death of 'caretaker' Taksin and there were no flag waving molotov cocktail hurling redshirts demanding Taksin's return/reinstalment?

[AndyFarang]

Has anyone else noticed that Suthep Thaugsuban is an anagram of "Bah Thug Unseats Pu" ??!!! Too unreal........!! 555