Redshirts Parade In Support Of Feb 2 Election

[Lite Beer]

Redshirts Parade In Support Of Feb 2 Election

Thousands of Redshirts have paraded in a large convoy around the northeastern city of Khon Kaen today to affirm their support for the next general election, scheduled to take place on 2 February 2014.

The Redshirts said they are against the plan suggested by anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, which called for an unelected ′People′s Council′ to be established and transform Thailand into an ′absolute democracy′ before permitting an election to take place.

More than 5,000 Redshirts joined the convoy, which consisted of 500 motorcycles, 100 pick-up trucks, and 50 cars. Two 10-wheel trucks equipped with loudspeakers led the convoy, blaring pro-Redshirts music and giving speeches critical of Mr. Suthep′s campaign to unseat Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra.

Banners on the convoy include phrases such as "Love Democracy, Go to Election", "We want election, not selection by Suthep", "Don′t let the minority drag democracy into the canal".

The 1-kilometre long convoy passed through many parts of Khon Kaen′s city centre before stopping at the park opposite Central Plaza Shopping mall, where they proceeded to erect a stage and hold a rally.

Organisers of the motorised parade said the Redshirts are from 20 provinces of the northeastern region, a traditional stronghold of the Redshirts movements.

Mr. Thanik Maseepitak, a co-organiser of the protest, said he cannot accept Mr. Suthep′s demands that Ms. Yingluck resign from her caretaker position.

He branded Mr. Suthep′s organisation, the People′s Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), as "rebels" and "political hooligans" who are committing "thuggish acts" against the nation.

"The Redshirts have vowed to fight the rebels and underlings of the ammart (feudal elite), in order to eradicate them from the Thai society," Mr. Thanik said.

Ms. Panwadee Tantisirin, chairwoman of Khon Kaen′s We Love Yingluck-Thaksin Society, said the Redshirts in the region will be coordinating closely with Pheu Thai Party in preparation for the next election. She also predicted that "the entire province" will vote for Pheu Thai Party again.

She also urged the Democrat Party, which is backing Mr. Suthep′s protests, to participate in the 2014 election and let the people decide who they want to vote for; the Democrat Party has been undecided whether to run in the next election.

Furthermore, Ms. Panwadee said, local Redshirts will send Government House in Bangkok 10,000 postcards expressing their support for Ms. Yingluck to stay as caretaker Prime Minister until the election.

She warned that the Redshirts "will fight to the end" if Mr. Suthep managed to overthrow Ms. Yingluck′s government and derail the plan for 2014 election.

Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNE56RXdOREF4TkE9PQ==&sectionid=TURFd01BPT0=

-- Khaosod English 2013-12-15

[PeterSmiles]

I didn't know Thailand celebrated carnival.

[Timwin]

"The Redshirts have vowed to fight the rebels and underlings of the ammart (feudal elite), in order to eradicate them from the Thai society,"

That is exactly what the Yellow leaders want. They want to bring back the old feudal lord system, Bangkok ruling over "pesky" peasants and those peasants just bowing deeply and keeping their mouths shut.

Edited December 15, 2013 by Timwin

[thumper101]

They are only parading in celebration of a 500 baht payday for all.

I have news for them. There won't be any election on Feb 2nd, well not with any opposition anyway, and that means no need to pay for a vote.

[TVGerry]

Parade all you want. Just don't burn anything down.

[thumper101]

"The Redshirts have vowed to fight the rebels and underlings of the ammart (feudal elite), in order to eradicate them from the Thai society," Mr. Thanik said.

Bring it on, they will get their <deleted> handed to them if they even think about trying it.

[kurtgruen]

Hmmm...I can see about 25. How about some picks of the other 1975 parading red shirts?

[tominbkk]

"The Redshirts have vowed to fight the rebels and underlings of the ammart (feudal elite), in order to eradicate them from the Thai society,"

That is exactly what the Yellow leaders want. They want to bring back the old feudal lord system, Bangkok ruling over "pesky" peasants and those peasants just bowing deeply and keeping their mouths shut.

They want to exterminate the "feudal elite". Except for their master feudal lord Thaksin. For him, they will lick his crevices clean, with mirth and glee.

[Timwin]

They want to exterminate the "feudal elite". Except for their master feudal lord Thaksin. For him, they will lick his crevices clean, with mirth and glee.

So there is "they" and then there is "we", right? Those pesky peasants outside Bangkok are all just stupid yahoos! That attitude is so typical for arrogant expats, living in Bangkok...a dime a dozen.

FYI, it is not 1992 or 2006 anymore. Thais outside Bangkok are also now wealthier and paying for votes is getting harder and harder.

[DonThaiToMe]

They are only parading in celebration of a 500 baht payday for all.

I have news for them. There won't be any election on Feb 2nd, well not with any opposition anyway, and that means no need to pay for a vote.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/116697/vote-buying-thaksin-and-the-democrats/

Read, then try again.

[thumper101]

They are only parading in celebration of a 500 baht payday for all.

I have news for them. There won't be any election on Feb 2nd, well not with any opposition anyway, and that means no need to pay for a vote.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/116697/vote-buying-thaksin-and-the-democrats/

Read, then try again.

Your point exactly?

There will be ZERO VOTE BUYING!!!.... get it in your head.

[kurtgruen]

They are only parading in celebration of a 500 baht payday for all.

I have news for them. There won't be any election on Feb 2nd, well not with any opposition anyway, and that means no need to pay for a vote.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/116697/vote-buying-thaksin-and-the-democrats/

Read, then try again.

I don't know about other areas, but I do know this, our neighbors and many people we know, in Chiang Dao, (Chiang Mai Province) were offered 500 Baht per day, by the Reds, to come and protest in Bangkok. To the best of my knowledge, I never heard of Democrats or anyone affiliated with Democrats or Yellow shirts, offering money up here.

I also know, that people were paid 800 Baht each, by the Reds, to vote Red in the Municipal Election, in Chiang Mai, recently. To be fair, there were rumors, that the Dems offered 600 Baht per vote in Chiang Mai, for the Municipal Elections, too, but the 800 Baht from Reds, is for sure, because I know the person who paid it out, in one area.

So anyone out there, who thinks that vote buying is a myth, has no idea about the reality in Thailand.

The United Nations offered to bring in people to supervise the elections, after the coup, but Thailand refused. There has been absolutely no legitimacy to so-called Thai Democracy.

Democracy here, is a farce.

A lot of people, in this Country, have no problem, standing there, waiting for a free handout, not realizing, that nothing is free and that somebody has to work and pay taxes, so they can get their Government handouts. (As little as that may seem, because most of it, lands in the pockets of the rich anyways)

[tominbkk]

They want to exterminate the "feudal elite". Except for their master feudal lord Thaksin. For him, they will lick his crevices clean, with mirth and glee.

So there is "they" and then there is "we", right? Those pesky peasants outside Bangkok are all just stupid yahoos! That attitude is so typical for arrogant expats, living in Bangkok...a dime a dozen.

FYI, it is not 1992 or 2006 anymore. Thais outside Bangkok are also now wealthier and paying for votes is getting harder and harder.

I was only quotes what they had to say. Truth hurts, huh?

[rheinwiese]

I didn't know Thailand celebrated carnival.

You beat me to it.

I was exactly thinking the same.

[choff56]

They want to exterminate the "feudal elite". Except for their master feudal lord Thaksin. For him, they will lick his crevices clean, with mirth and glee.

So there is "they" and then there is "we", right? Those pesky peasants outside Bangkok are all just stupid yahoos! That attitude is so typical for arrogant expats, living in Bangkok...a dime a dozen.

FYI, it is not 1992 or 2006 anymore. Thais outside Bangkok are also now wealthier and paying for votes is getting harder and harder.

Not to mention that their kin have been infiltrating Bangkok for Schooling and jobs for a long time now.

[DonThaiToMe]

They are only parading in celebration of a 500 baht payday for all.

I have news for them. There won't be any election on Feb 2nd, well not with any opposition anyway, and that means no need to pay for a vote.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/116697/vote-buying-thaksin-and-the-democrats/

Read, then try again.

I don't know about other areas, but I do know this, our neighbors and many people we know, in Chiang Dao, (Chiang Mai Province) were offered 500 Baht per day, by the Reds, to come and protest in Bangkok. To the best of my knowledge, I never heard of Democrats or anyone affiliated with Democrats or Yellow shirts, offering money up here.

I also know, that people were paid 800 Baht each, by the Reds, to vote Red in the Municipal Election, in Chiang Mai, recently. To be fair, there were rumors, that the Dems offered 600 Baht per vote in Chiang Mai, for the Municipal Elections, too, but the 800 Baht from Reds, is for sure, because I know the person who paid it out, in one area.

So anyone out there, who thinks that vote buying is a myth, has no idea about the reality in Thailand.

The United Nations offered to bring in people to supervise the elections, after the coup, but Thailand refused. There has been absolutely no legitimacy to so-called Thai Democracy.

Democracy here, is a farce.

A lot of people, in this Country, have no problem, standing there, waiting for a free handout, not realizing, that nothing is free and that somebody has to work and pay taxes, so they can get their Government handouts. (As little as that may seem, because most of it, lands in the pockets of the rich anyways)

If you "never heard of democrats or anyone affiliated with democrats or yellow shirts offering money", then you clearly didn´t read the article. If you had read it you would have, to your amazment no doubt, found that the democrat confesses that the democrat party even spent more money on vote buying, than the reds.

Yes, I agree, democracy is a total farce in Thailand!

My point was that so many Suthep fanbois loves to use the vote buying-argument, but in fact, as most people are aware of by now, vote buying is a method used by the whole political spectrum in Thailand.

Edited December 15, 2013 by DonThaiToMe

[Smokemachine]

It's the "DEMOCRACY" again.

[DonThaiToMe]

They are only parading in celebration of a 500 baht payday for all.

I have news for them. There won't be any election on Feb 2nd, well not with any opposition anyway, and that means no need to pay for a vote.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/116697/vote-buying-thaksin-and-the-democrats/

Read, then try again.

Your point exactly?

There will be ZERO VOTE BUYING!!!.... get it in your head.

Wow! You start to sound like your hero Mr. S. Good work!

[Loles]

If in Khon Kaen and Udon this OK ...

[rubl]

""The Redshirts have vowed to fight the rebels and underlings of the ammart (feudal elite), in order to eradicate them from the Thai society," Mr. Thanik said.
Ms. Panwadee Tantisirin, chairwoman of Khon Kaen′s We Love Yingluck-Thaksin Society, said the Redshirts in the region will be coordinating closely with Pheu Thai Party in preparation for the next election""

All this sounds so totally democratic

Oh and by the way this also shows that elections with the same criminal fugitive involved don't really help. Plus of course I'm still wondering about red-shirts having evolved beyond Thaksin

Edited December 15, 2013 by rubl

[AloisAmrein]

When I watch Suthep at the TV he reminds me always of Hitler.

[lemonjelly]

At the end of the day, I'd trust the Dems\Suthep with the Thai economy more than I'd trust a party that has blown in excess of 10 billion US Dollars in 1 year on a sketchy rice scheme designed to keep votes coming in from the paddy fields, it's like throwing sacks of candy to kids regardless of the consequences to their (read economy) health.

Edited December 15, 2013 by lemonjelly

[rubl]

At the end of the day, I'd trust the Dems\Suthep with the Thai economy more than I'd trust a party that has blown in excess of 10 billion US Dollars in 1 year on a sketchy rice scheme designed to keep votes coming in from the paddy fields, it's like throwing sacks of candy to kids regardless of the consequences to their (read economy) health.

Sorry, it's a bit pedantic, but ...

It's 360++ billion THB in TWO years, pledging started October, 2011. not saying that that makes is any better though

Edited December 15, 2013 by rubl

[lemonjelly]

At the end of the day, I'd trust the Dems\Suthep with the Thai economy more than I'd trust a party that has blown in excess of 10 billion US Dollars in 1 year on a sketchy rice scheme designed to keep votes coming in from the paddy fields, it's like throwing sacks of candy to kids regardless of the consequences to their (read economy) health.

Sorry, it's a bit pedantic, but ...

It's 360++ billion THB in TWO years, pledging started October, 2011. not saying that that makes is any better though

aah..ok....thanks

[rubl]

When I watch Suthep at the TV he reminds me always of Hitler.

My dear Alois, the topic is red-shirts not Suthep and certainly not Hitler even if you're reminded of him.

[ratcatcher]

Perhaps the wooden buffalo yoke proudly held aloft by the lead motorcycle rider is symbolic?

[Roadman]

"The Redshirts have vowed to fight the rebels and underlings of the ammart (feudal elite), in order to eradicate them from the Thai society,"

That is exactly what the Yellow leaders want. They want to bring back the old feudal lord system, Bangkok ruling over "pesky" peasants and those peasants just bowing deeply and keeping their mouths shut.

The irony in that Redshirts statement will be lost on them. As already pointed out the Buffalo yoke is certainly symbolic.

Edited December 15, 2013 by Roadman

[blaze]

You are probably right Roadman

Please explain the difference between feudalism and liberalism.

You might want to also consider explaining the sources of legitimacy for each.

You can do it- you're not a dumb buffalo -- so enlighten those on this forum as to just why the term feudalism, correctly used, applies to liberal and neo-liberal capitalism.

I think it's safe to say you really don't see the difference between feudalism and raw exploitation. But the Reds do- and there is a difference- the promise to exploit is open to all under capitalism- under feudalism it is open to a very select few regardless of how much cash they have.

And as you know- feudalism is legitimized by something greater than measly investment potential.

(and no- that something is not 'merit')

Edited December 15, 2013 by blaze

[djjamie]

They want to exterminate the "feudal elite". Except for their master feudal lord Thaksin. For him, they will lick his crevices clean, with mirth and glee.

So there is "they" and then there is "we", right? Those pesky peasants outside Bangkok are all just stupid yahoos! That attitude is so typical for arrogant expats, living in Bangkok...a dime a dozen.

FYI, it is not 1992 or 2006 anymore. Thais outside Bangkok are also now wealthier and paying for votes is getting harder and harder.

Those pesky peasants outside Bangkok are all just stupid yahoos!. Yep. When those pesky peasants stop being a drain on society then they will be acknowledged . AND if some people support them then they are no better. Jeff Savage and Connor Purcell come to mind. Both scary fanatics that epitomized the UDD / PTP regime faring followers to a Tee.

[bkkfaranguy]

At the end of the day, I'd trust the Dems\Suthep with the Thai economy more than I'd trust a party that has blown in excess of 10 billion US Dollars in 1 year on a sketchy rice scheme designed to keep votes coming in from the paddy fields, it's like throwing sacks of candy to kids regardless of the consequences to their (read economy) health.

Sorry, it's a bit pedantic, but ...

It's 360++ billion THB in TWO years, pledging started October, 2011. not saying that that makes is any better though

The 360 ++ billion figure you are using is the Dems number, the current administration says around 120 billion baht per year or 4 billion USD per year totaling 8 billion USD in 2 years, these are recent figures from the IMF, I imagine the true number is somewhere inbetween.

The whole scheme was to try and control the worlds rice prices and to help 4.5 million poor farmers get more money in there pockets to improve there lives. Thailand has always been one of the worlds leading exporters of Rice and this is not an unusual practice many countries do the same thing with there comodities, China with copper, currently Indonesia with Tin, oil in the middle east etc etc.

Edited December 15, 2013 by bkkfaranguy