Thai PM calls for peaceful end to political crisis

[whybother]

Resign my dear, the people voted for your populist policies, not for you or your family.

Put Thailand first, you and your family have plenty of money, enjoy it.

Get out of politics and let the people of Issan and the north form a party of people who really care about them.

They don't need millionaires any more.

If this simultaneously happened with resignation of Abhisit and Suthep, it could be the solution to all Thailands problems really.

Wont happen but

Suthep has already resigned. I don't really think it would be dependent on Abhisit resigning. But if that was the offer, I seriously think he would take it.

[leggo]

What Thailand needs is a man of the character of Mandela but very rarely do such great men live in our times.

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[whybother]

What Thailand needs is a man of the character of Mandela but very rarely do such great men live in our times. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Maybe one can come up from the south.

[Baerboxer]

well just go away along with rest of your evil clan hardly wanting peace when they put up all clan members as MP's in party list and stuff every important post with their own family members and cronies

I just hope whole rotten evil lot would sink into slime they came from

Wow, that was a really constructive and useful comment.

Let's see, Puea Thai won the last elections, meaning that most Thais still wanted this government.

Just because a minority who has lost elections for the past 23 years, well before Thaksin ever came to power, wants to overthrow an elected government, doesn't mean that the whole country has to follow it.

My suggestion, go to the polls if you want to change something. It's what grown ups in civilized countries do.

You're wrong, as usual. Most Thais did not vote for Pheu Thai. They had a large minority vote. That was 2.5 years ago. They have performed badly in recent, safe, by elections, the BKK governor election and their ratings in the latest polls is the lowest since taking office. But, your red tinted glasses show this as meaning most Thais still want the previous now caretaker government.

In grown up civilized countries, political parties are not openly controlled by a convicted criminal fugitive and his close family, several of whom have also been convicted of fraud. These type of people would be in prison and banned from politics for life in any civilized country. The Thai people have shown amazing patience watching the latest Thaksin proxy party lie, cheat, act illegally and squander the tax payers money. They would have been kicked out long ago in any civilized country.

[FangFerang]

To many on TV seem to be buying the 'cult of personalities' argument.

I do not buy into that at all, or believe it when both sides conveniently forget what their picked favorites have done in the past. That is a BS argument, in short and simple.

Of course the government is corrupt. The last government was corrupt, and the next and the next...and the one before that, and the one before that.... I refuse to forget the accusations agauinst Suthep that, well, just went away. Nor will I condone late night amendments to whitewash people of their crimes.

What both sides hate is the other is being smart and equally dishonest and darn the cruelty and uinfairness of life when people can rape the rules better than I can! Stop the game (until I can catch up somehow).

In short, picking a side here is like saying, "my excrement stinks less than yours does." These are laughable ad hominem attacks masquerading as justification because posters think they can get in the last word.

I for one hope the Thais find a unique solution to sharing power, but since they are human beings I am not holding my breath.

This is about power, and one side is really ticked off they have not had the power for quite some time. The current group that has power will hold on with cold dead hands if needs be. If you really want to spout an opinion I would respect, care about the people caught in the middle here. Some of them are being killed, and every one of them for the wrong reasons.

Like the West, they love the cult of personalities, and we have taught their leaders some nasty tricks! As someone once said, ten thousand dead lawyers in the bottom of the ocean is...a pretty good start. That has a deep problem too -- what else do we have but an imprecise system of laws? Language is not math, and sometimes one plus cube equals green.

Farang that jump to speak out and support their favorite sides are comical here. Not only do our 'opinions' not count, they are being read by Thais here who think most of us are happy to go along with the 'us-or-them' Puppet Show. Most of us are not. Lots of posts, and very little intelligible content between one viewpoint or the other rushing to hijack every new thread.

We're not important here. Number of posts is not number of votes. It just means some people have lots of time on their hands.

Resume rants, and welcome to being a bit actor who will never even get a screen credit in the Puppet Show. We are not even allowed to buy a land ticket to be in the audience...so welcome to your rented space, and don't forget to clean the popcorn machine before you leave.

H appy New Year!

[FangFerang]

well just go away along with rest of your evil clan hardly wanting peace when they put up all clan members as MP's in party list and stuff every important post with their own family members and cronies

I just hope whole rotten evil lot would sink into slime they came from

Wow, that was a really constructive and useful comment.

Let's see, Puea Thai won the last elections, meaning that most Thais still wanted this government.

Just because a minority who has lost elections for the past 23 years, well before Thaksin ever came to power, wants to overthrow an elected government, doesn't mean that the whole country has to follow it.

My suggestion, go to the polls if you want to change something. It's what grown ups in civilized countries do.

In grown up civilized countries, political parties are not openly controlled by a convicted criminal fugitive and his close family,

Really? The American Bushes come to mind, having been in control of arguably the most powerful country in the world....so 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians do not count as evidence, and Bush was found guilty of war crimes by more than one country. Wow, you have a rusted scale that can't measure anymore!

[bob4you]

Be forewarned, her lips are moving.

[LuckyLew]

well just go away along with rest of your evil clan hardly wanting peace when they put up all clan members as MP's in party list and stuff every important post with their own family members and cronies

I just hope whole rotten evil lot would sink into slime they came from

Wow, that was a really constructive and useful comment.

Let's see, Puea Thai won the last elections, meaning that most Thais still wanted this government.

Just because a minority who has lost elections for the past 23 years, well before Thaksin ever came to power, wants to overthrow an elected government, doesn't mean that the whole country has to follow it.

My suggestion, go to the polls if you want to change something. It's what grown ups in civilized countries do.

But Thailand is not a civilized country ... nor is it democratic ..

[WhizBang]

I cringe when this idiot of a puppet uses the word "reconciliation". It's just another word for bringing big brother back. Doesn't matter how many votes you win, you're not there working for the people, you're just there to enrich your family and whitewash your brother's crimes.

Thailand is a democracy if you do not like it try not to slam the door

Thailand... a democracy? Really?

In what universe are you living?

Edited December 31, 2013 by WhizBang

[soi41]

What Thailand needs is a man of the character of Mandela but very rarely do such great men live in our times. Sent from my i-mobile IQ 2 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Maybe one can come up from the south.

They tried the man from the south before! But it didn't go according to plan!

I am thinking of Gen Sonti (the 2006 coup general).

Handpicked by Thaksin because he (Sonti) was a Moslem from the south, so according to Mr T the right man to solve the problems in the deep south. But as we all know, he went a little outside his southern jurisdiction!!

Sorry Mr T, karma can be a bitch at times!!

[LuckyLew]

Why does she keep uttering the same BS?

Keep the protest going all year ... as the Thai baht gets weaker ... I get richer ..

Do I hear a 40 ? how's about a 45 ?

Go Suthep go !!!

Keep it up Yingluck ... you are doing a great job ...

[Mackie]

If she was honest about her intentions and wanted a peaceful solution to political crisis, she would've scheduled the elections for some time in May 2014. That would be an honest compromise. Neither Suthep nor Democrat party would have any room to maneuver. It is safe to conclude that PM and her party have hidden agenda. The amnesty bill. They haven't given up on it. According to Thai law, the Senate has 180 days to send the bill back to the lower house, which would have to wait until that time before bringing the bill back to the table.

[Maha Sarakham Marty]

I suspect Ms Yingluck really doesn't want to be PM. She's doing it to please her brother, and it's also the best platform for aiding her brother coming back to Thailand a hero - and taking back the PM's seat for himself. It's plain what she really likes: traveling to farang countries and buying expensive vanity items. Indeed, that's what all Thai politicians (and their wives) want to do, more than anything else. I sense Ms Yingluck is a good person, but she's in the wrong league. My advice to her: Take a break. Take your mega-baht and travel and shop. Give yourself leave, and give the Thai people an option for getting effective leaders (if that's possible).

I think you are spot on!

Yingluck is clearly not a politician and clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But according to people who know her a very decent person, who on parties can be very funny.

She's the life of the party is what red leader Arisaman is probably thinking.

"Happy New Yearzzzz Eberyone who boted for me!!"

*hick*

Edited December 31, 2013 by Maha Sarakham Marty

[theslime]

well just go away along with rest of your evil clan hardly wanting peace when they put up all clan members as MP's in party list and stuff every important post with their own family members and cronies

I just hope whole rotten evil lot would sink into slime they came from

I don,t want them.

[ratcatcher]

well just go away along with rest of your evil clan hardly wanting peace when they put up all clan members as MP's in party list and stuff every important post with their own family members and cronies

I just hope whole rotten evil lot would sink into slime they came from

Wow, that was a really constructive and useful comment.

Let's see, Puea Thai won the last elections, meaning that most Thais still wanted this government.

Just because a minority who has lost elections for the past 23 years, well before Thaksin ever came to power, wants to overthrow an elected government, doesn't mean that the whole country has to follow it.

My suggestion, go to the polls if you want to change something. It's what grown ups in civilized countries do.

yes lets have another 4 years of this vile corrupt government who's only care is one mans megalomaniac desire to turn Thailand into his own one party dictatorship. When will people like you understand their is no democracy when elections are bought and when just because Taksin manages to buy most votes its fine to do whatever he wants irrespective of human rights. laws and anyone who dares oppose they better watch out or hell let loose again his red thugs.

Hitler was voted in so was Idi Amin and Poll pot and Mugabwie so I rest my case. Further ask 99% of thais how MP's are lected and they don't have a clue about party lists and anyway only care for next 500 baht.

Thank you ill take my chances with the inevitable coup and thank goodness theirs one body able to stop Taksin and his evil clan.

All peace needs is fork ne man to withdraw and take his clones and clan with him to exile wherever and at last Thailand would be rid of this curse and then many would be content with letting a new non Taksin government of whatever persuasion or colour have a chance. I also think although Abahist is by far IMO best PM he should withdraw to help heal wounds and Suphet. If that happened and Taksin went with rest then Thailand would have a chance.

As it is are you Naive enough to think an election is going to stop those totally opposed to Taksin who loathe and hate him. SO a coup for 2-3 years is best and most likely outcome which many would as before welcome.

You really think Thialand is anyway on par with Uk for instance in being able to have a proper free election. Well go back to your bubble world.

"and they don't have a clue about party lists"

1. Beer

2. Whisakey

3. Potato chips

4. Paper cups & plates

5. Napkins

6. Thai food.

Happy New year

[hgma]

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!

[englishoak]

I think She is playing exactly the hand shes advised to, I also think that whatever people like to think about the Shins they are not stupid and are very well educated compared to a lot of the handmedown ammarts the contrast is striking. This is how politics is really done.

Say what you like but Suthep has been both frustrated and out manoeuvred at every turn and continues to be. This lot are rank amateurs, when it comes to politics, having an eye and brain for business is a distinct advantage, only one group has that and international advise and experience. Even though the funding for the mob is massive in both backup and cash smart is the balancer,

Another call for peace and continued restraint on the PMs side very smart

She is garnering more and more respect internationally than i think some here realise, you can spit all you like but this is not a stupid led or advised party. Interesting and more turbulent times ahead

[wellred]

I think She is playing exactly the hand shes advised to, I also think that whatever people like to think about the Shins they are not stupid and are very well educated compared to a lot of the handmedown ammarts the contrast is striking. This is how politics is really done.

Say what you like but Suthep has been both frustrated and out manoeuvred at every turn and continues to be. This lot are rank amateurs, when it comes to politics, having an eye and brain for business is a distinct advantage, only one group has that and international advise and experience. Even though the funding for the mob is massive in both backup and cash smart is the balancer,

Another call for peace and continued restraint on the PMs side very smart

She is garnering more and more respect internationally than i think some here realise, you can spit all you like but this is not a stupid led or advised party. Interesting and more turbulent times ahead

I like this post! Fingers crossed the army steps in and clears the protesters away to allow for a peaceful election. If he wants to be in power so bad he should just stand for election.

[pxlgirl]

even if she believes in what she says, it's wishful thinking, sadly. But yeah, happy new year!

[wellred]

I just hope they don't shut down the airports again. Has he already said airports are not on his hit list?

[khunsiam]

I just hope they don't shut down the airports again. Has he already said airports are not on his hit list?

no, but Pichit Chaimongkol was released on bail yesterday, another key figure of the People’s Alliance for Democracy in connection with the seizure of the Suvarnabhumi and Don Mueang airports in late 2008 and today I asked a PAD friend of Anchalee Paireerak about the possibility of such a shut down, the answer: "there 's not a real plan for that, any move by the PDCR can change from day to day, the paralysing of Bangkok... not sure either"

[wellred]

Thanks. If they did move to shut the airport down would the army move in to stop them or allow them to proceed? I guess no one really knows.

[oldthaihand99]

In grown up civilized countries, political parties are not openly controlled by a convicted criminal fugitive and his close family, several of whom have also been convicted of fraud.

Civilized countries don't have a legal system doing the bidding of the military or anti-Shin elites for bribes.

Civilied countries don't remove democraticly elected governments (TS's in 2006).

The military should apologize to TS & arrange for him to return to his rightful position of being PM in LOS.

[JRSoul]

Civilized countries don't have a legal system doing the bidding of the military or anti-Shin elites for bribes.

Civilied countries don't remove democraticly elected governments (TS's in 2006).

The military should apologize to TS & arrange for him to return to his rightful position of being PM in LOS.

Thaksin has not been PM of Thailand since he handed his resignation (accepted) to the King in 2006, before the coup. That is not an opinion, it is a historical fact.

[oldthaihand99]

Civilized countries don't have a legal system doing the bidding of the military or anti-Shin elites for bribes.

Civilied countries don't remove democraticly elected governments (TS's in 2006).

The military should apologize to TS & arrange for him to return to his rightful position of being PM in LOS.

Thaksin has not been PM of Thailand since he handed his resignation (accepted) to the King in 2006, before the coup. That is not an opinion, it is a historical fact.

Many people would say he is, in effect, the PM ATM.

[SebD]

Surprised the Western democracies haven't yet waded into this fiasco.

The last thing the world wants is another unelected committee - especially under the control of a crazed fanatic such as Suthep and his glove-puppet (commonly known as Mark Abhisit) running a strategic South-Eastern country.

Just my two-penn'orth.

[JRSoul]

Civilized countries don't have a legal system doing the bidding of the military or anti-Shin elites for bribes.

Civilied countries don't remove democraticly elected governments (TS's in 2006).

The military should apologize to TS & arrange for him to return to his rightful position of being PM in LOS.

Thaksin has not been PM of Thailand since he handed his resignation (accepted) to the King in 2006, before the coup. That is not an opinion, it is a historical fact.

Many people would say he is, in effect, the PM ATM.

Automatic Teller Machine? Yes he treats the country as one.

At The Moment? Well yes, he does appear to dictate government policy and is allowed access to cabinet meetings. Leaving aside his fugitive criminal status, for an unelected person to have these rights is both morally and criminally wrong, but there is not the apparatus to restrict, prevent or punish this, or at least not the will to implement it. Given that he is using government policy to blatantly benefit himself, do you not see the need for reform to correct this situation?

[retsdon]

Given that he is using government policy to blatantly benefit himself, do you not see the need for reform to correct this situation?

Sure - absolutely. But what's being proposed isn't reform. It's the dismantling of the Thai constitution and the shelving of one man one vote democracy. And the tactics being used to pursue these goals are deliberately designed to plunge the whole country into ungovernable anarchy. Sorry, that's nonsense. If Suthep believes that there are grounds for criminal charges to be brought against the government then he should be petitioning the courts to do their job. But he's not. He's looking to instigate a coup d'etat against an elected government.

And that so many posters on these boards apparently support him in his endeavour would suggest that it's not just Thailand that has a problem with its education system.

[JRSoul]

Given that he is using government policy to blatantly benefit himself, do you not see the need for reform to correct this situation?

Sure - absolutely. But what's being proposed isn't reform. It's the dismantling of the Thai constitution and the shelving of one man one vote democracy. And the tactics being used to pursue these goals are deliberately designed to plunge the whole country into ungovernable anarchy. Sorry, that's nonsense. If Suthep believes that there are grounds for criminal charges to be brought against the government then he should be petitioning the courts to do their job. But he's not. He's looking to instigate a coup d'etat against an elected government.

And that so many posters on these boards apparently support him in his endeavour would suggest that it's not just Thailand that has a problem with its education system.

That has been proposed as one extreme solution to the problem, but has been taken up as the reason to continue business as usual. This government is committing criminal acts with the DSI and AG refusing to act, blocking access to the courts. You admit there is a serious problem, but denigrate attempts to repair it while offering futile suggestions to use methods seen to be not working.

BTW there is no elected government at the moment, only a caretaker in temporary charge.

[Maha Sarakham Marty]

I think She is playing exactly the hand shes advised to, I also think that whatever people like to think about the Shins they are not stupid and are very well educated compared to a lot of the handmedown ammarts the contrast is striking.

Do you have an example of these less educated handmedown ammart to compare the Shins with?

Edited January 1, 2014 by Maha Sarakham Marty