House wiring no conduits

[Mike45]

I just received some pictures of the house build. The house is completely wired.

They didn't use conduits above the ceilings. I had originally seen conduits buried in the walls from the outlets to above the ceilings. I assumed there would also be conduits above the ceiling. I was wrong.

The wiring they used is single wires. Red, white and green.

How much of a problem is this going to cause me in the future?

[Crossy]

Singles without conduit would be a no-no in most countries.

Your issue will be Roland Rat and other wildlife gnawing on your cables, not a lot of PVC before bare conductors are exposed.

IMHO Not acceptable, reject it and get the man to do it properly.

[David48]

Singles without conduit would be a no-no in most countries.

Your issue will be Roland Rat and other wildlife gnawing on your cables, not a lot of PVC before bare conductors are exposed.

IMHO Not acceptable, reject it and get the man to do it properly.

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... what he said ...

[bankruatsteve]

It also appears the wiring is not secured and connections are not in boxes. Thai 'twist&tape' is usually a pretty good bond, but there is no reason really to not do it 'proper'.

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[bankruatsteve]

What is IMHO?

[Mike45]

Is there a Thailand electrical code that I can cite? My wife told them that I didn't like it and their response was that was how they did all their houses.

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[Mike45]

What is IMHO?

In my humble opinion IMHO

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[Crossy]

There may be something in this PEA document http://www.crossy.co.uk/Handy%20Files/groundwire.pdf it certainly has pictures of VAF cable http://www.bangkokcable.com/catalog/BCC_CATALOG/VAFG2EN.HTML which can be used without conduit.

There's almost certainly something in this EIT document http://www.eit.or.th/book_detail.php?id=17&gid=2 sadly I don't have a copy to check (and I don't read Thai well enough anyway).

Is this a custom build? If so you're paying the bills, you say how it's done. Not so easy if it's a moo baan complex. Our home is wired in singles, it's all in conduit or trunking.

By the way, Thai wiring colour code is Black - Live, White - Neutral, Green - Ground.

[Mike45]

There may be something in this PEA document http://www.crossy.co.uk/Handy%20Files/groundwire.pdf it certainly has pictures of VAF cable http://www.bangkokcable.com/catalog/BCC_CATALOG/VAFG2EN.HTML which can be used without conduit.

There's almost certainly something in this EIT document http://www.eit.or.th/book_detail.php?id=17&gid=2 sadly I don't have a copy to check (and I don't read Thai well enough anyway).

Is this a custom build? If so you're paying the bills, you say how it's done. Not so easy if it's a moo baan complex. Our home is wired in singles, it's all in conduit or trunking.

By the way, Thai wiring colour code is Black - Live, White - Neutral, Green - Ground.

Its a Moo Baan complex. If I had asked to have it in conduit I am sure for a fee they would have done it. They have really been very cooperative and reasonable with all my requests. I just assumed......

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[Satcommlee]

To be honest, what you don't see won't hurt you.....

It is a huge no-no in European counties but 90% of Thai homes are wired in such bad ways.

Not a lot seems to go bang here by the way.

Unless you do it yourself, it is very hard to get electrics done to a European standard here.

I wired my own house, nearly killed me, back still aches to this day... All for a green wire.. LOL

[Langsuan Man]

I'm with Crossy on this one, if you are paying then you should be getting what you are paying for. If you want to sell the house later on, do you think the buyer will want to inherit a potential fire trap. I think not

And I don't think that conduit is necessarily a European luxury. In my build it was automatically assumed that the electrical wires would be in conduit

[Artisi]

_{For peace of mind and as a last resort pay to have it run in conduit with junction boxes etc. No big deal or expense, conduit is cheap and so is labour.}