PDRC willing to end protest if govt quits in place of interim 'reform' administration

[Lite Beer]

PDRC willing to end protest if govt quits in place of interim 'reform' administration

BANGKOK: -- The People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) is ready to end the protests if the caretaker government resigns from its post and establishes an interim government to implement national reform, according to core PDRC coleader Thaworn Senneam.

Thaworn is the first PDRC leader to confirm recent media reports that doors have been opened for talks to be held between representatives of the two sides in the political dispute.

At least five people have reportedly joined in these talks, including a senior figure, a retired Army general, PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban's brotherinlaw Niphon Promphan, former deputy prime minister Wissanu Kruangam (as mediator) and expremier Thaksin Shinawatra's close aide Wattana Muangsuk.

-- The Nation 2014-02-13

[MunterHunter]

Don't back down now... you got them on the ropes... keep the pressure up and soon Yingluck and her henchmen will be either locked up or in exile!!!

[moonao]

Let these drongos continue with their protests... at the rate they are fizzling out there will be 10 people left next week.

[gerry1011]

Suthep has got tired, most of his followers left him, his "guards" are expensive and shot too many people, his friends in the army can't help him, he fears arrest, most people want to vote, he has no clue how to make the things move on... It's time for negotiation indeed...

Poor old miserable man...

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[uty6543]

Don't back down now... you got them on the ropes... keep the pressure up and soon Yingluck and her henchmen will be either locked up or in exile!!!

They are not giving up. Just giving them a chance to negotiate their surrender.

Edited February 13, 2014 by uty6543

[rubl]

Let these drongos continue with their protests... at the rate they are fizzling out there will be 10 people left next week.

Well, we'll wait till it's groups of four or less, then the Emergency Decree can be lifted

[ShannonT]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

[moonao]

Don't back down now... you got them on the ropes... keep the pressure up and soon Yingluck and her henchmen will be either locked up or in exile!!!

LOL, every single round in this challenge by the protesters has been lost by them. Its been a flop and a massive fail. Their supporters are deserting them by the hundreds, numbers are dwindling, they have lost their leverage and their change of position to open talks reveals this.

Things just didn't work out for them as well as they planned

[TVGerry]

Don't back down now... you got them on the ropes... keep the pressure up and soon Yingluck and her henchmen will be either locked up or in exile!!!

LOL, every single round in this challenge by the protesters has been lost by them. Its been a flop and a massive fail. Their supporters are deserting them by the hundreds, numbers are dwindling, they have lost their leverage and their change of position to open talks reveals this.

Things just didn't work out for them as well as they planned

Yes they've lost and yet the government still has the country on SOE and are sending people to discuss a truce.

[ramrod711]

There is no way that this government can, or will survive. Suthep can stop, but the courts won't. Yingluck still has to explain how she was either incompetent or crooked enough to let the rice scheme ruin the economy. Either way she is toast.

[ramrod711]

BANGKOK: -- Farmer leaders last night vowed to overthrow the government of caretaker prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra with the mobilization of up to 50,000 troubled farmers to the capital to act.

Bye bye PTP, wish i could say it's been nice to have you around.

[skills32]

Suthep has got tired, most of his followers left him, his "guards" are expensive and shot too many people, his friends in the army can't help him, he fears arrest, most people want to vote, he has no clue how to make the things move on... It's time for negotiation indeed...

Poor old miserable man...

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Ah another napkins.

Tell me gerry what do you really know about this?

Are you on someones payroll or are you just another troll?

[samtam]

There is no way that this government can, or will survive. Suthep can stop, but the courts won't. Yingluck still has to explain how she was either incompetent or crooked enough to let the rice scheme ruin the economy. Either way she is toast.

Or in her case, burnt rice.

[focus27]

This was always the endgame - disrupt the democratic process thereby triggering various sections of the constitution.

An interim government is round the corner, unless the caretaker government takes some control, which they seem unable to do.

This looks like a lose-lose situation with sugar and cream.

Thing is, calls for political reforms usually come with demands. Where is the PDRC manifesto?

To paraphrase Augustine: oh lord, make me incorruptible, but not just yet.

[AleG]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the country’s needs, not to politicians’.

[iancnx]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the countrys needs, not to politicians.

Good post and thank you for the concise reminder. Seems perfectly straight forwards to me, and I see non of it requiring a referendum! Just new elections once the playing field is level to allow a new emerging party to step forwards without the dinosaurs FROM EITHER SIDE in tow.

[Rich teacher]

Desperation! His group are as violent as they are undemocratic. Their support has dwindled so much it is embarrassing. Just an insane old man ranting on stage with a few bigoted soap stars and wannabe hisos taking selfies.

[thesetat2013]

Sounds like he is selling himself out to thaksin by inviting thakins aide wattana.

Maybe he is starting to fear his eventual imprisonment.

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[phosphorescent]

Reminds me of this scene from the movie 'A bridge too far' where the Germans have the British surrounded and offer them a chance to surrender.

[Rich teacher]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the country’s needs, not to politicians’.

And why was none of this ever a priority during Suthep's periods in the ruling party? Maybe he was too busy giving state land to his wealthy buddies or making profits from his media firm that was receiving government concessions.The hypocrisy of this man is truly astounding!

Edited February 13, 2014 by Rich teacher

[ShannonT]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the country’s needs, not to politicians’.

Those 6 points will take 20 years at least to implement, not 18 months.

And where is the referendum that shows Thais want these or those reforms?

[Crushdepth]

Suthep has got tired, most of his followers left him, his "guards" are expensive and shot too many people, his friends in the army can't help him, he fears arrest, most people want to vote, he has no clue how to make the things move on... It's time for negotiation indeed...

Poor old miserable man...

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Wishful thinking. The government is screwed and they know it. The rice scam is enough to destroy them in itself.

[seajae]

the red psycophants just cant help themselves, they must really keep the toilet paper crowd in money having to constantly wipe their chins with all the dribbling. What would we do for comedy relief without these guys, will they still be here when the ptp and reds are in jail where they should be, we can only hope but it would definitely be boring without their dummy spits and biased rants, ho hum.

[Why ask]

Desperation! His group are as violent as they are undemocratic. Their support has dwindled so much it is embarrassing. Just an insane old man ranting on stage with a few bigoted soap stars and wannabe hisos taking selfies.

Obviously your students don't gain any wealth from you, Rich Teacher.

[jonclark]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the country’s needs, not to politicians’.

And why was none of this ever a priority during Suthep's periods in the ruling party? Maybe he was to busy giving state land to his wealthy buddies or making profits from his media firm that was receiving government concessions.The hypocrisy of this man is truly astounding!

But are these points wrong?

[Why ask]

Don't back down now... you got them on the ropes... keep the pressure up and soon Yingluck and her henchmen will be either locked up or in exile!!!

LOL, every single round in this challenge by the protesters has been lost by them. Its been a flop and a massive fail. Their supporters are deserting them by the hundreds, numbers are dwindling, they have lost their leverage and their change of position to open talks reveals this.

Things just didn't work out for them as well as they planned

Hearts are gathered in silent action. You'll be surpsrised one day when a woman loves you for who you are, and not what you portray! LOL, as planned in revealing yourself. You may find yourself not so deserted, when you change your position to openess, and not your current self-enigmata.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Why ask

[ShannonT]

And why was none of this ever a priority during Suthep's periods in the ruling party? Maybe he was to busy giving state land to his wealthy buddies or making profits from his media firm that was receiving government concessions.The hypocrisy of this man is truly astounding!

But are these points wrong?

You need to ask the Thai people with a referendum, not foreigners.

[rocky3]

who presented these reforms? Suthep can not be a party to the interim reform administration. he must stay away from the administration and he has no say in what gets approved or presented in a referendum. PTP forms interim government. Elections to be held after referendum. while you are at it reform the courts as well, as it seems their interpretation of the law and the constitution is controlled by money and corruption.

[newcomer71]

What "national reform", Mr. Suthep?

In all these months, you have NEVER detailed what those reforms would be.

How about a referendum first to ask the Thai people if they even want these unknown reforms?

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the country’s needs, not to politicians’.

I don't want to seem pedantic. Even a farmer knows and wish these reforms, but do they have at least a hint on what and how to implement to obtain them?

I don't think so... It will take years to obtain all that, and it can't be made under a People's Council. It must be under an independent panel, integrated by members of every parties. I don't see any other fair way out.

[AleG]

A word of advice, don't use a position of ignorance as a justification to make definite statements.

Just because you don't know what the reforms the PDRC has propossed doesn't mean that they have never detailed them.

Here's a summary

Point 1: An electoral system free from vote buying

Point 2: Effective measures to end corruption

Point 3: People should have the power to remove politicians and administrative power should be decentralised by electing provincial governors

Point 4: A police reform, so that the police force would "truly belong to the people" and perform their duties under the command of the elected governor of their respective province

Point 5: A bureaucracy reform

Point 6: Solving the problems inherent in education, social affairs, public health and transport, an economic system free of monopoly. Investment in transport infrastructure as answer to the country’s needs, not to politicians’.

Those 6 points will take 20 years at least to implement, not 18 months.

And where is the referendum that shows Thais want these or those reforms?

A referendum

Do you find any of those points detrimental to the country? Or you don't want to see an electoral system free of vote buying, measures to end corruption, decentralized provincial power, etc, etc...?

By the way, you forgot to say "Sorry, I was wrong"