PDRC wants PM, Chalerm to take blame for deadly clash

[Suriya4]

There is a photo today on twitter saying " finally found the unlucky police " with the police holding what appears to be the grenade check out user @issarar

What this one...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhCq8PACUAA7vCP.jpg:large

Let's way and see Chalerm put a spin on this one !

I think he is calling his mum.

[PatOngo]

In a late development...Chalerm has shaved his head and joined the monastery saying he repents,that he has given up drinking and welcomes the rule of law to prevail.

[icommunity]

The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers. The law enforcement officers were duty bound to clear illegal structures, and any obstruction to the public. Their front lines were shields and batons with the backup with live weapon in case the front lines are being attacked and face imminent danger to their lives and that of the public.

Law enforcement agencies have been patient, tolerance and showing utmost restraint under very provocative situations.

This protest is different from the 2010 one as then they demanded only parliamentary dissolution, but now the dem's pdrc/pcad keeps shifting from one demand to another. They show up and commanded everyone to follow and join their demonstration and rallies - from the military to banks, media, government officers and farmers.

The protesters were not protesting anything but were there to create a situation for seizing power from a democratically elected government.

[whybother]

The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers. The law enforcement officers were duty bound to clear illegal structures, and any obstruction to the public. Their front lines were shields and batons with the backup with live weapon in case the front lines are being attacked and face imminent danger to their lives and that of the public.

Law enforcement agencies have been patient, tolerance and showing utmost restraint under very provocative situations.

This protest is different from the 2010 one as then they demanded only parliamentary dissolution, but now the dem's pdrc/pcad keeps shifting from one demand to another. They show up and commanded everyone to follow and join their demonstration and rallies - from the military to banks, media, government officers and farmers.

The protesters were not protesting anything but were there to create a situation for seizing power from a democratically elected government.

"The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers."

Yet they killed, fired with live ammunition, and deployed snipers. It seems Chalerm, as head of CMPO, is in trouble. Yingluck has no idea what's happening so should be safe from murder charges.

The PDRC demands haven't changed. They want Yingluck to resign. Instead she dissolved parliament.

The 2010 and 2014 protests aren't different. They are/were both trying to bring down legally elected governments.

[icommunity]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

didn't suthep said they will fight with their bare hands? The police did not say they were unarmed. They said their will armed according to the following process.

The front lines of the law enforcement officers were armed with shields and baton, followed by tear gas, than the rubber bullets. Finally, the live bullet when the enforcement officer are attacked and their lives and that of the public are in imminent danger.

The very first line was negotiation - to clear illegal structures and any obstruction that violated the rights of the public. When that failed and faced with resistance and attack, the other line takes over to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. This is in accordance to international riot control and crowd control practice.

[Melyn]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

didn't suthep said they will fight with their bare hands? The police did not say they were unarmed. They said their will armed according to the following process.

The front lines of the law enforcement officers were armed with shields and baton, followed by tear gas, than the rubber bullets. Finally, the live bullet when the enforcement officer are attacked and their lives and that of the public are in imminent danger.

The very first line was negotiation - to clear illegal structures and any obstruction that violated the rights of the public. When that failed and faced with resistance and attack, the other line takes over to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. This is in accordance to international riot control and crowd control practice.

I'm sure that shooting 5 unarmed protesters dead without warning will be viewed as murder.

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[whybother]

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

didn't suthep said they will fight with their bare hands? The police did not say they were unarmed. They said their will armed according to the following process.

The front lines of the law enforcement officers were armed with shields and baton, followed by tear gas, than the rubber bullets. Finally, the live bullet when the enforcement officer are attacked and their lives and that of the public are in imminent danger.

The very first line was negotiation - to clear illegal structures and any obstruction that violated the rights of the public. When that failed and faced with resistance and attack, the other line takes over to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. This is in accordance to international riot control and crowd control practice.

It seems that Tarit lied.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/dsi-chief-claims-police-armed-lethal-weapons/

DSI chief claims police were not armed with lethal weapons

Department of Special Investigation (DSI) chief Tarit Pengdit insisted today that the police who were involved in the dispersal of protesters at Pan Fah bridge on Tuesday were only armed with truncheons, shields and guns firing rubber bullets.

[icommunity]

The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers. The law enforcement officers were duty bound to clear illegal structures, and any obstruction to the public. Their front lines were shields and batons with the backup with live weapon in case the front lines are being attacked and face imminent danger to their lives and that of the public.

Law enforcement agencies have been patient, tolerance and showing utmost restraint under very provocative situations.

This protest is different from the 2010 one as then they demanded only parliamentary dissolution, but now the dem's pdrc/pcad keeps shifting from one demand to another. They show up and commanded everyone to follow and join their demonstration and rallies - from the military to banks, media, government officers and farmers.

The protesters were not protesting anything but were there to create a situation for seizing power from a democratically elected government.

"The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers."

Yet they killed, fired with live ammunition, and deployed snipers. It seems Chalerm, as head of CMPO, is in trouble. Yingluck has no idea what's happening so should be safe from murder charges.

The PDRC demands haven't changed. They want Yingluck to resign. Instead she dissolved parliament.

The 2010 and 2014 protests aren't different. They are/were both trying to bring down legally elected governments.

You really know how to spin. Champion indeed.

[icommunity]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

didn't suthep said they will fight with their bare hands? The police did not say they were unarmed. They said their will armed according to the following process.

The front lines of the law enforcement officers were armed with shields and baton, followed by tear gas, than the rubber bullets. Finally, the live bullet when the enforcement officer are attacked and their lives and that of the public are in imminent danger.

The very first line was negotiation - to clear illegal structures and any obstruction that violated the rights of the public. When that failed and faced with resistance and attack, the other line takes over to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. This is in accordance to international riot control and crowd control practice.

I'm sure that shooting 5 unarmed protesters dead without warning will be viewed as murder.

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I leave that to the investigators.

[Melyn]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

didn't suthep said they will fight with their bare hands? The police did not say they were unarmed. They said their will armed according to the following process.

The front lines of the law enforcement officers were armed with shields and baton, followed by tear gas, than the rubber bullets. Finally, the live bullet when the enforcement officer are attacked and their lives and that of the public are in imminent danger.

The very first line was negotiation - to clear illegal structures and any obstruction that violated the rights of the public. When that failed and faced with resistance and attack, the other line takes over to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. This is in accordance to international riot control and crowd control practice.

I'm sure that shooting 5 unarmed protesters dead without warning will be viewed as murder.

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I leave that to the investigators.

Very wise of you.

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[whybother]

The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers. The law enforcement officers were duty bound to clear illegal structures, and any obstruction to the public. Their front lines were shields and batons with the backup with live weapon in case the front lines are being attacked and face imminent danger to their lives and that of the public.

Law enforcement agencies have been patient, tolerance and showing utmost restraint under very provocative situations.

This protest is different from the 2010 one as then they demanded only parliamentary dissolution, but now the dem's pdrc/pcad keeps shifting from one demand to another. They show up and commanded everyone to follow and join their demonstration and rallies - from the military to banks, media, government officers and farmers.

The protesters were not protesting anything but were there to create a situation for seizing power from a democratically elected government.

"The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers."

Yet they killed, fired with live ammunition, and deployed snipers. It seems Chalerm, as head of CMPO, is in trouble. Yingluck has no idea what's happening so should be safe from murder charges.

The PDRC demands haven't changed. They want Yingluck to resign. Instead she dissolved parliament.

The 2010 and 2014 protests aren't different. They are/were both trying to bring down legally elected governments.

You really know how to spin. Champion indeed.

What did I spin? Yingluck having no idea?

[icommunity]

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

didn't suthep said they will fight with their bare hands? The police did not say they were unarmed. They said their will armed according to the following process.

The front lines of the law enforcement officers were armed with shields and baton, followed by tear gas, than the rubber bullets. Finally, the live bullet when the enforcement officer are attacked and their lives and that of the public are in imminent danger.

The very first line was negotiation - to clear illegal structures and any obstruction that violated the rights of the public. When that failed and faced with resistance and attack, the other line takes over to maintain law and order and enforcing the rule of law. This is in accordance to international riot control and crowd control practice.

It seems that Tarit lied.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/dsi-chief-claims-police-armed-lethal-weapons/

DSI chief claims police were not armed with lethal weapons

Department of Special Investigation (DSI) chief Tarit Pengdit insisted today that the police who were involved in the dispersal of protesters at Pan Fah bridge on Tuesday were only armed with truncheons, shields and guns firing rubber bullets.

Tarit did not lie. Any officer caught not following instruction or executed outside of the order should be arrested and charged.

[whybother]

Tarit did not lie. Any officer caught not following instruction or executed outside of the order should be arrested and charged.

He said they weren't armed. They were armed.

Do you really think the police would go into "battle" with the protesters carry some of those guns without authorisation from those above?

Besides that, Tarit said that AFTER it happened.

[Crushdepth]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

If you watch the CNN video available at (you tube, Camera catches attack on Bangkok cops, CNN news) clearly documents the police officers subjected to the grenade blast after the attack remained crouched behind their shields none (NONE) of them in the video fired a weapon, 6-8 officers with shot guns firing rubber bullets did lay a withering response to the protesters use of live ammo and lethal force..

Cheers.

Based on one video from one perspective, you claim the police did not use weapons? You must have missed the photos of police aiming down sights in the Bangkok Post a couple of days ago. It was the feature story on their web page. There are also a few dead and wounded protesters with bullet holes to be accounted for.

Selectively using media stories to misrepresent the facts in favour of your political views is dishonest. And its exactly what you complain The Nation does all the time.

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[casualbiker]

so its the governments fault when you started the escalation. i see how you think now. blame others for our escalation because we are only peaceful demonstrators that are taking away your rights. lets throw some tear gas and grenades at the police and shoot and they will go away. look at the photos and tell me what you see when the police initially formed their lines. shields and batons. after the grenades you will see shotguns that are using rubber bullets. tell me how shotgun shells and high powered shell casings were recovered behind the protestors. these were recovered by thai bystanders. thank-you innocent peaceful people for the deaths of many Thai citizens. I hold Suthep responsible for the actions of his minions, as i see his peaceful demonstrators sitting and praying. by the way CNN shows who threw the grenade and he was not dressed in black. his helper hiding behind the blue plastic sheet with the rifle i cannot see if he is in black. but he was with the protestors and not the police. so please tell why Yingluck and Chalerm are to blame.

Rocky .. if you could post a link to this new CNN video showing the thrower. Thanks

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[icommunity]

The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers. The law enforcement officers were duty bound to clear illegal structures, and any obstruction to the public. Their front lines were shields and batons with the backup with live weapon in case the front lines are being attacked and face imminent danger to their lives and that of the public.

Law enforcement agencies have been patient, tolerance and showing utmost restraint under very provocative situations.

This protest is different from the 2010 one as then they demanded only parliamentary dissolution, but now the dem's pdrc/pcad keeps shifting from one demand to another. They show up and commanded everyone to follow and join their demonstration and rallies - from the military to banks, media, government officers and farmers.

The protesters were not protesting anything but were there to create a situation for seizing power from a democratically elected government.

"The CMPO did not issue any order to kill, setup live firing zone, deployment of snipers."

Yet they killed, fired with live ammunition, and deployed snipers. It seems Chalerm, as head of CMPO, is in trouble. Yingluck has no idea what's happening so should be safe from murder charges.

The PDRC demands haven't changed. They want Yingluck to resign. Instead she dissolved parliament.

The 2010 and 2014 protests aren't different. They are/were both trying to bring down legally elected governments.

You really know how to spin. Champion indeed.

What did I spin? Yingluck having no idea?

The DEM led government was never people elected to form a government. They were defeated in 2007 elections. It was the result of 1. CC judges who dissolved PPP and its partners without calling 300 defense witnesses and were not given the right to defense. 2. MPs who betrayed the voters who voted them under the PPP tickets and accepted the arrangements made at military barrack. 3. The result of a parliamentary majority that voted AV as PM and formed the government. 4. All these were arranged at military barrack. 5. AV and the military had been demanding the then PPP to dissolved parliament and returned power to the people. Yet immediately, after PPP was dissolved, the parliament was not dissolved but arrangement to form a government through parliamentary majority.

PTP was legally, popularly and overwhelminglly elected by the people to form a government. However, it choose to have a coalition Government.

PM YS cannot accept the demand of the dem and its pdrc/pcad to resign because 1. She was legally, popularly and overwhelmingly elected by the people. 2. She has to respect the wishes of the people who voted her and her team. Therefore, she choose to return power to the people for a new mandate. The demand was undemocratic. It show disrespect to the democratic system and the electorates and in violation of section 68. Reform was never his agenda when the dem mps ws caused to resign en masses.

The shifting demands are therefore his never ending 'finals'. From demanding the military to banks,to media, government officers, farmers and now businesses community and consumers. His '6-million' was never a reality and we know how many left and the composition of these people. He is increasingly getting nerves and it is obvious that his militants will have to surface and still hoping to create a situation to seize power to cover and whitewashed all his wrongdoings.

On the shooting and the resulting death of the 'protesters' and police, investigation certainly is a must. The order of the CMPO was clear and any police caught disobeying instruction and executed outside of the order should be arrested and charged.

Your spinning is expected and cannot make me dizzy.

[icommunity]

What do you think of these?

[icommunity]

There is a photo today on twitter saying " finally found the unlucky police " with the police holding what appears to be the grenade check out user @issarar

What this one...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhCq8PACUAA7vCP.jpg:large

Let's way and see Chalerm put a spin on this one !

From police source

[rocky3]

maeab1,

where is your proof that snipers were used by the police? you will notice the weapon carried by the sniper is 50 caliber. so go fine someone that was hit with 50 caliber rounds. this is one serious wound.

[maxme]

whybother

the police came to this site prepared to defend themselves. the sniper appears to be army not police, however he could be police and he is trained as a observer/spotter as well.the police that confronted the protestors initially were unarmed and supported by armed police for defense purposes. get real would you come unprepared?

Sniper not wear thai army camo, probably come police commando

Sorry but what is a police commando?

[whoisyourdaddy]

Whatever happens to Yingluck (good or bad) please make sure Chalerm is banned from politics and speaking in public in any capacity forever.

Why? Chalerm would make an excellent spokesperson for any beer company.

[whybother]

The DEM led government was never people elected to form a government. They were defeated in 2007 elections. It was the result of 1. CC judges who dissolved PPP and its partners without calling 300 defense witnesses and were not given the right to defense. 2. MPs who betrayed the voters who voted them under the PPP tickets and accepted the arrangements made at military barrack. 3. The result of a parliamentary majority that voted AV as PM and formed the government. 4. All these were arranged at military barrack. 5. AV and the military had been demanding the then PPP to dissolved parliament and returned power to the people. Yet immediately, after PPP was dissolved, the parliament was not dissolved but arrangement to form a government through parliamentary majority.

PTP was legally, popularly and overwhelminglly elected by the people to form a government. However, it choose to have a coalition Government.

PM YS cannot accept the demand of the dem and its pdrc/pcad to resign because 1. She was legally, popularly and overwhelmingly elected by the people. 2. She has to respect the wishes of the people who voted her and her team. Therefore, she choose to return power to the people for a new mandate. The demand was undemocratic. It show disrespect to the democratic system and the electorates and in violation of section 68. Reform was never his agenda when the dem mps ws caused to resign en masses.

The shifting demands are therefore his never ending 'finals'. From demanding the military to banks,to media, government officers, farmers and now businesses community and consumers. His '6-million' was never a reality and we know how many left and the composition of these people. He is increasingly getting nerves and it is obvious that his militants will have to surface and still hoping to create a situation to seize power to cover and whitewashed all his wrongdoings.

On the shooting and the resulting death of the 'protesters' and police, investigation certainly is a must. The order of the CMPO was clear and any police caught disobeying instruction and executed outside of the order should be arrested and charged.

Your spinning is expected and cannot make me dizzy.

I think you should learn how the parliamentary system works and how PMs are elected.

Abhisit was elected by a majority of MPs, just as Samak was after the election. The PPP didn't get a majority of seats in the 2007 election, so they needed to form a coalition to have Samak elected PM just as Abhisit was elected. PPP and PTP coalitions were formed with people flying to Hong Kong to meet Thaksin to make deals, the same sort of deals that the the smaller parties made when forming a coalition with the Democrats.

The PPP were dissolved, but that didn't mean that all the PPP MPs were banned. After the PPP was banned, the newly formed PTP was still in power. The acting PM (Chaovarat) could have called an election, but decided to go back to parliament to elect a new PM, just as they had done when Samak had to step down and Somchai was elected PM. The ones that were banned had by-elections to have them replaced, so "the people" were represented. When the PTP called for a vote for PM, Abhisit was elected.

The "friends of Newin" that "betrayed the voters" were a faction of PPP that had been bought in by Thaksin. The people that voted for them are the same people that voted for them before they joined PPP and the same people that voted for them after they left PPP.

PTP was legally elected. They got a majority of seats in parliament. The only reason they formed a coalition was that Ministers can't vote in parliament in all cases, so the PTP needed to have a a few more MPs to make sure they had no issues in parliament.

If Yingluck "can't accept the demands" of the protesters, why did she dissolve parliament? Surely she should have known that this wouldn't solve anything. She "had the mandate". She didn't need a new one.

What are the shifting demands? They have demanded that Yingluck and Thaksin get out of Thai politics. They demanded that from the start. There demand wasn't for new elections. It was for reform, and then elections. It hasn't shifted from that.

It's interesting that you talk about "police disobeying orders", but continue to call for Abhisit and Suthep be convicted of murder even though everything suggests that the army were "disobeying orders" in the deaths they were involved in in 2010. And you complain of double standards.

[aussieinthailand]

IN this incident, Who cast the stone? PROTESTERS, rocks and bottle's, FACT,

Were they given for warning? YES FACT,

Can the police defend themselves? yes FACT.

Did The police first respond with tear gas yes FACT. is that standard procedure? YES FACT.

Did the "peaceful protesters respondent with a grenade? YES FACT.

ALL you here on TV proclaiming police threw the grenade and after other angels video showing it came from the "peaceful protest" side, are now VERY VERY QUIET in this claim? YES FACT.

And most importantly, Suthep claims Who as the head of state??? Did he not encourage blocking of the vote? YES FACT

Was the election signed and sanctioned by royal decree??? YES FACT... hypocrisy at it's highest... YES FACT...

Lastly, I believe in protest, I believe in freedom of speech, but not in his tactics to take government from the people.

[casualbiker]

What do you think of these?

GreenBeret.jpg

Shooter.jpg

Well the bottom one is the picture that I have seen (and posted)

The top one looks like some of the men that were with the police!

Do you have a source?

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[pisico]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

Kikoman is quoting an independent view in the statement of OHCHR.

Kikoman is NOT quoting the government or the PDRC.

Your question is a non-sequitur. An attempt to deviate the subject to suit your leaning in Thai politics.

God forbid I ever have one. Thai politics?

[pisico]

so its the governments fault when you started the escalation. i see how you think now. blame others for our escalation because we are only peaceful demonstrators that are taking away your rights. lets throw some tear gas and grenades at the police and shoot and they will go away. look at the photos and tell me what you see when the police initially formed their lines. shields and batons. after the grenades you will see shotguns that are using rubber bullets. tell me how shotgun shells and high powered shell casings were recovered behind the protestors. these were recovered by thai bystanders. thank-you innocent peaceful people for the deaths of many Thai citizens. I hold Suthep responsible for the actions of his minions, as i see his peaceful demonstrators sitting and praying. by the way CNN shows who threw the grenade and he was not dressed in black. his helper hiding behind the blue plastic sheet with the rifle i cannot see if he is in black. but he was with the protestors and not the police. so please tell why Yingluck and Chalerm are to blame.

Am I to be blamed for those deaths?

Regarding blame and lack of responsibility I remember some businesses in iffy areas in California posting signs alerting the patrons that the establishment was not responsible for damages to the vehicles n the parking lot.

I also remember seeing a similar warning in establishments frequented by rockers, and a sundry of well known actors nowadays.

Barneys Beanery in Santa Monica was one of those places where Janis Joplin ate her last bowl of Chili before overdosing later that day.

The sign read;

WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE.

It echoes the soul of PDRC and their boss Suthep.

[whybother]

Source from the front page of B.P. Newspaper, This morning

Statement from OHCHR United Nations Human Rights Office Highly Which states:

"Although all the details are not clear, it appears that a well armed group associated with the anti-government protesters quickly escalated the violence with the use of live ammunition. It also appears that thew police responded,shooting live ammunition"

Out side observers again saw what is so open to the bias Thai media, that alway attempt to place blame on the government.

Cheers

Didn't the government say that the police were unarmed? Did they lie?

Kikoman is quoting an independent view in the statement of OHCHR.

Kikoman is NOT quoting the government or the PDRC.

Your question is a non-sequitur. An attempt to deviate the subject to suit your leaning in Thai politics.

God forbid I ever have one. Thai politics?

What difference does it make what Kikoman is quoting? The government (or Tarit, the governments lap dog) said after the incidents that the police were unarmed. That has been shown to be clearly not true.

[ikurauni]

Thai people like to do blaming games.

[PhilipCook]

As DSI to investigate the fortune teller and the customer of the fortune teller.

[wolfmanjack]

maeab1,

where is your proof that snipers were used by the police? you will notice the weapon carried by the sniper is 50 caliber. so go fine someone that was hit with 50 caliber rounds. this is one serious wound.

Most of the sniper rifles used by the police and military around the world are not .50 caliber. Also a sniper can use any type of rifle including something as small as a .22

The type of shot a sniper wants to perform will determine what type of rifle a sniper will use.

http://www.snipercentral.com/rifles.htm