Election Commission turns down CMPO's budget request

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Election Commission turns down CMPO's budget request

BANGKOK, 28 March 2014 (NNT) - The Election Commission has turned down the Center for Managing Peace and Order (CMPO)'s budget request on the grounds of unclear budget proposal.

According to Election Commission Secretary-General, Phuchong Nutrawong, the EC did not approve of the CMPO's request for a budget of 2.3 billion baht due to the lack of clarity in the budget’s details.

Phuchong cited as a precedent the case of the Department of Investigation (DSI), which, for unknown reasons, had been allotted a much higher budget than most other departments.

The Election Commission will invite Police Chief Adul Saengsinkaew, who is also the Deputy-Director of the CMPO, to further clarify the CMPO's request next week.


-- NNT 2014-03-28

[djjamie]

Yet the NACC budget was cut by 60% when the PTP came to power.

Interesting that the PTP have a perceived view that the independent agencies are not independent so as punishment they cut there budget yet by giving the DSI a lot higher budget when the DSI in fact is a tool of the PTP.

So what can be infurred from this is that the PTP don't necessarily dislike entities that are tainted as long as they slant to the PTP agenda. So if you share the same beliefs as us we will reward you.

This OP also gives prominence to their contempt of anyone that investigates corruption which is at the heart of the shin dynasty.

[rubl]

I'm a wee bit confused. I thought that the CMPO was 'downgraded' to CAPO with the Emergency Decree lifted and the ISA put into effect.

Wouldn't that mean the CAPO could have inherited this budget request? If so, wouldn't the 'more relaxed' security situation mean a lesser need for budget?

[Scamper]

To turn down a request for funds due to lack of budgetary details ( i.e. accountability and transparency ) goes to the very centre of Pheu Thai's habitual manner of governance. It's clearly a habit they have no intention of shaking.

Edited March 28, 2014 by Scamper

[antimedia]

I'm a wee bit confused. I thought that the CMPO was 'downgraded' to CAPO with the Emergency Decree lifted and the ISA put into effect.

Wouldn't that mean the CAPO could have inherited this budget request? If so, wouldn't the 'more relaxed' security situation mean a lesser need for budget?

No, lack of clarity in the budget’s details is the given reason. In other words certain people from the CMPO will have to use their frequent flyer points now to visit the boss for instructions. It appears from an earlier report money was spent without approval, who is going to pay it back and will the Sot be held accountable for it.

[Nickymaster]

Phuchong cited as a precedent the case of the Department of Investigation (DSI), which, for unknown reasons, had been allotted a much higher budget than most other departments.

I think the reason is clear. You help me, and I will take care of you.

[Robby nz]

From what was reported elsewhere this is the budget that (the DSI) CMPO has already allocated for the SOE.

It would seem they have paid 200 staff at the DSI 3333 B per day and the police 700 B per day as an allowance.

However the EC said the accounting for the money spent was "incomplete" and did not show where the money had gone.

Should also be remembered that the DSI had already been given 1.2 billion from the central fund for the CMPO.

[h90]

From what was reported elsewhere this is the budget that (the DSI) CMPO has already allocated for the SOE.

It would seem they have paid 200 staff at the DSI 3333 B per day and the police 700 B per day as an allowance.

However the EC said the accounting for the money spent was "incomplete" and did not show where the money had gone.

Should also be remembered that the DSI had already been given 1.2 billion from the central fund for the CMPO.

From the 700 Baht the deducted a lot for food, which was incredibly expensive and the police complained a lot about the poor quality.

Some Shinawatra might has made a lot money again.....

[bulekee]

I'm a wee bit confused. I thought that the CMPO was 'downgraded' to CAPO with the Emergency Decree lifted and the ISA put into effect.

Wouldn't that mean the CAPO could have inherited this budget request? If so, wouldn't the 'more relaxed' security situation mean a lesser need for budget?

Quite simple really,when they changed the name from CMPO to CAPO they forgot to change the Swiss bank account name for receipt of the funds.

[northernjohn]

I don't think the EC considers a budget made up of 1,000,000 baht for you 1,000,000 baht for me 1,000,000 baht for you 1,000,000 baht for me 1,000,000 baht for you 1,000,000 baht for me 1,000,000 baht for you 1,000,000 baht for me and so forth a proper budget.

[ramrod711]

Does this mean that Chalerm doesn't get a new Bentley this year?

[bulekee]

Does this mean that Chalerm doesn't get a new Bentley this year?

I think he has put a bid in for Lady Penelope's.

[bigbamboo]

Obvious the members of Election Commission must have neglected their English studies if they can't understand words like whisky, malt and Johnny Walker.

[Bkungbank]

To raise some strong K9 dogs we have to fed them full stomach before they can do the jobs by guarding the enemies.

Edited March 28, 2014 by Bkungbank

[Fat Haggis]

It's good to see the EC actually stating this stuff, and quite right too, I would presume this is a separate budget, for the sole use of the elections, than the annual department budget.

Before

"Can I have 2.5 billion Baht please"

"What for?"

"Don't know yet"

"umm okay, is 1000 baht notes okay?"

"Yes, that will do nicely"

Now

"Can I have 2.5 billion baht please"

"No... <deleted> off and come back when you tell me what it's for"

"Oh... okay, wasn't expecting that"

Well done on the EC for requesting a bit more clarity and accountability on where it's all going

[billd766]

Transparency and accountability.

Two words that are an anathema to the PTP.

Link to anathema

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema

Look under the second grouping item #4 and also under generic usage.

In general usage, the word "anathema" is employed mainly to describe vehement disagreement with or dislike of something.

[Malone]

According to Election Commission Secretary-General, Phuchong Nutrawong, the EC did not approve of the CMPO's request for a budget of 2.3 billion baht due to the lack of clarity in the budgets details.

To turn down a request for funds due to lack of budgetary details ( i.e. accountability and transparency ) goes to the very centre of Pheu Thai's habitual manner of governance. It's clearly a habit they have no intention of shaking.

Indeed. Chalerm has discovered that random 10-digit long numbers scrawled on a cocktail napkin in a drunken haze doesn't qualify as a legitimate budget request.

[Lupatria]

For sale by owner (exept minibar):

[catinthehat]

Why does Chalerms deputy have to answer to the rejection? Or is Chalerm too busy still feverishly spending the money from the first round of bugeted funds? What a joke. When Chalerm wants to makes harsh baseless statements or threats he fears no one. Seems like he may fear this meeting by attending himself as he and only he knows how the moey would have been spent. Just shows what a true weakling he is.

Good job EC!!!

[unanimosity]

Yet the NACC budget was cut by 60% when the PTP came to power.

Interesting that the PTP have a perceived view that the independent agencies are not independent so as punishment they cut there budget yet by giving the DSI a lot higher budget when the DSI in fact is a tool of the PTP.

So what can be infurred from this is that the PTP don't necessarily dislike entities that are tainted as long as they slant to the PTP agenda. So if you share the same beliefs as us we will reward you.

This OP also gives prominence to their contempt of anyone that investigates corruption which is at the heart of the shin dynasty.

Did you read the OP with such an agenda that you missed the two most obvious facts?

1. CMPO is a PTP slanted agency and they were denied.
2. What the 7734 is an election commission doing awarding budgets to any agencies?

[unanimosity]

Transparency and accountability.

Two words that are an anathema to the PTP.

Link to anathema

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema

Look under the second grouping item #4 and also under generic usage.

In general usage, the word "anathema" is employed mainly to describe vehement disagreement with or dislike of something.

How interesting that because you had to look it up you assume somebody else would have to as well. What's that saying again about being quiet, or removing all doubt?

[SICHONSTEVE]

I'm a wee bit confused. I thought that the CMPO was 'downgraded' to CAPO with the Emergency Decree lifted and the ISA put into effect.

Wouldn't that mean the CAPO could have inherited this budget request? If so, wouldn't the 'more relaxed' security situation mean a lesser need for budget?

I think that this is what the CMPO had already spent Rubl and they haven't provided enough details as to how it was spent that is the stumbling block here.

Maybe the 5 star hotel prepared meals that they were enjoying were a bit too embarrassing to declare allied to the fact that they just love secrecy when money is involved!!! Far better if only they are privy to such things and it gets a bit awkward when they have to provide proof in the form of receipts to justify their spending as, GOD FORBID!!! other people can see it!!

[djjamie]

Yet the NACC budget was cut by 60% when the PTP came to power.

Interesting that the PTP have a perceived view that the independent agencies are not independent so as punishment they cut there budget yet by giving the DSI a lot higher budget when the DSI in fact is a tool of the PTP.

So what can be infurred from this is that the PTP don't necessarily dislike entities that are tainted as long as they slant to the PTP agenda. So if you share the same beliefs as us we will reward you.

This OP also gives prominence to their contempt of anyone that investigates corruption which is at the heart of the shin dynasty.

Did you read the OP with such an agenda that you missed the two most obvious facts?

1. CMPO is a PTP slanted agency and they were denied.
2. What the 7734 is an election commission doing awarding budgets to any agencies?

The PTP are in caretaker mode thus are unable to access the budget and have very limited fiscal leeway.

With that said the EC need to approve this request by the PTP. CMPO are slanted to the PTP and rest assured if they were not in caretaker mode the PTP would throw money at them and continue to neglect the NACC. They were denied the money by the EC because the PTP, as usual, are not transparent with their request for the money.

Hopefully that has answered both your points.

[BlueNoseCodger]

No surprise the Electoral Commission doesn't want the Department of Special Investigations to investigate crimes committed.

And as long as the Electoral Commission doesn't hold an election it remains in effective control of the government, able to block funding for the country, preventing criminal investigation of their crimes, and holding the country to hostage.

[Arkady]

I'm a wee bit confused. I thought that the CMPO was 'downgraded' to CAPO with the Emergency Decree lifted and the ISA put into effect.

Wouldn't that mean the CAPO could have inherited this budget request? If so, wouldn't the 'more relaxed' security situation mean a lesser need for budget?

It seems that they are talking about the funds that were appropriated by CMPO from the Central Budget and spent while CMPO was still in operation.

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[Arkady]

Yet the NACC budget was cut by 60% when the PTP came to power.

Interesting that the PTP have a perceived view that the independent agencies are not independent so as punishment they cut there budget yet by giving the DSI a lot higher budget when the DSI in fact is a tool of the PTP.

So what can be infurred from this is that the PTP don't necessarily dislike entities that are tainted as long as they slant to the PTP agenda. So if you share the same beliefs as us we will reward you.

This OP also gives prominence to their contempt of anyone that investigates corruption which is at the heart of the shin dynasty.

Did you read the OP with such an agenda that you missed the two most obvious facts?

• CMPO is a PTP slanted agency and they were denied.
• What the 7734 is an election commission doing awarding budgets to any agencies?

Constitution requires any expenditures by a caretaker govt not already approved under the budget act or thro a cabinet resolution before the House was dissolved to be approved by the EC which must reject anything that would create an obligation on the next govt.

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[IAMSOBAD]

The HUB of honesty just got caught stealing from the poor again.

I hope they must account for every satang and are jailed for any LOST funds.

Irony at its best.

Edited March 28, 2014 by IAMSOBAD

[Pimay1]

No surprise the Electoral Commission doesn't want the Department of Special Investigations to investigate crimes committed.

And as long as the Electoral Commission doesn't hold an election it remains in effective control of the government, able to block funding for the country, preventing criminal investigation of their crimes, and holding the country to hostage.

Talk about confused and demented reasoning. Khun Phuchong simply asks for clarity in the budget’s details and you say the EC doesn't want crimes investigated and they are holding the country hostage.

I set the alarm on my phone to go off at 9am each morning so I don't forget to take my blood pressure medicine. Maybe you need to do the same so you will not forget to take your medication. May I suggest you ask your doctor about donepezil? It is very effective in treating dementia.

[rubl]

No surprise the Electoral Commission doesn't want the Department of Special Investigations to investigate crimes committed.

And as long as the Electoral Commission doesn't hold an election it remains in effective control of the government, able to block funding for the country, preventing criminal investigation of their crimes, and holding the country to hostage.

The topic is questions on a budget which the CMPO may have had, spent, but can't properly indicate how it did.

[Wombat6]

Does this mean that Chalerm doesn't get a new Bentley this year?

And no more free trips to Singapore and he will have to cut back on ear Medicine