French far right in 'earthquake' win as EU votes

[webfact]

Eurosceptic 'earthquake' rocks EU elections

(BBC) Eurosceptic and far-right parties have seized ground in elections to the European parliament, in what France's PM called a "political earthquake".

While the French National Front and UK Independence Party both appear headed for first place, the three big centrist blocs in parliament all lost seats.

The outcome means a greater say for those who want to cut back the EU's powers, or abolish it completely.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27559714


-- BBC 2014-05-26

[Calach]

"But EU supporters will be pleased that election turnout was slightly higher."

Yeah, they must be so thrilled.

[thumper101]

Can't they see that the common people don't want a EU superstate with an open door immigration policy.

The Thai immigration system is a bit antiquated, but far superior for controlling the populace balance.

However, with ASEAN next year, they may find that they have made a major blunder opening its doors too wide to its neighbours on many fronts.

Give it 20 years and I can see the richer economies pulling out of ASEAN.

Give it 5 years and I can see the big players pulling out of the EU.... Come on Farage, the UK people are behind you..... Force a referendum for the people or continue to take votes away.

[rebelplatoon]

The far right.... There's the democratic system for ya!

[oneday]

Note to reporter...it's called winning by a "Landslide"...Earthquake...555555555555

[Basil B]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

[HeavyDrinker]

I spoke to some colleagues from the EU this morning and they are deeply concerned. I must confess to having chuckled a little when I hung up the phone.....

[lazygourmet]

When it started with the Benelux that was a very nice enjoyable threesome.

Nowadays it has become an uncontrollable gang bang...

[DiamondKing]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

Call then what you will they tried calling them racist to bring them down IT DID NOT WORK in fact is made us even more resolute to vote UKIP

The political elite have ignored the people for too long and finally they have received a MASSIVE SLAP IN THE KISSER to wake them up and take notice THE PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD

The sooner the UK is out of the EU the better and that is the VIEW OF ALL THOSE THAT VOTED UKIP its not that they want the destruction of the EU its that they want the UK out of it and back to governing itself trading and controlling its borders as well as making it own laws basically back to being an INDEPENDANT SELF GOVERNING NATION.

WELL DONE UKIP now start the work for the 2015 Election

[TinoThailand]

Some EU creators are nazilike and in bed with Bilderberg, illuminati or how ever you want to call it. Let's say not supporting "us" the people. Peacefully, I will do what ever I can to stop the EU, 1 world government and multinationals supporting war.

[TinoThailand]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

Call then what you will they tried calling them racist to bring them down IT DID NOT WORK in fact is made us even more resolute to vote UKIP

The political elite have ignored the people for too long and finally they have received a MASSIVE SLAP IN THE KISSER to wake them up and take notice THE PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD

The sooner the UK is out of the EU the better and that is the VIEW OF ALL THOSE THAT VOTED UKIP its not that they want the destruction of the EU its that they want the UK out of it and back to governing itself trading and controlling its borders as well as making it own laws basically back to being an INDEPENDANT SELF GOVERNING NATION.

WELL DONE UKIP now start the work for the 2015 Election

The very racist with all there racist wars use it against us. Like for example with criticizing Obama I'm a racist even do my "black" friends agree. They abuse anti Semitism the same way. With Hillary I will be sexist. But heey, it's to late, people are waking up. We are winning the information war. Don't think small, it's not just about leaving the EU, it's about justice and lock up the people who crashed the world.

[TinoThailand]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

The EU is designed to destruct Europe first of all. Unless you lived under a rock the last years, it's clearly to see we pay for regime change in (Ukraine, Greece) and out (Syria, Egypt) the EU. It's clearly they forced us into the bank way that destroyed the USA from inside out. The EU is designed to overthrow governments and take over surrounding Russia, build more army bases and get the resources cheap. They always know they can't pay back the loan and the "help to rebuild" the country. The loan mostly end up as investments and for the lobbyists and never the people who really need it. Those lobbyists also advice what the politics should decide. There for exactly we don't live in democracies in the EU and USA. Theocracy is what we have, and it's religion is MONEY. No money = fear, so we suck up the BS and pretend to May vote as long as we can pay to eat and live. But we all can be next you know? How many countries are doing better after the EU was created?

[uptheos]

European elections results 2014: Farage and Ukip top poll as Europe takes swing to the right

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/european-elections-results-2014-sweeping-gains-for-nigel-farages-ukip-deal-further-body-blow-to-main-parties-9434042.html

[Bernard Flint]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

Call then what you will they tried calling them racist to bring them down IT DID NOT WORK in fact is made us even more resolute to vote UKIP

The political elite have ignored the people for too long and finally they have received a MASSIVE SLAP IN THE KISSER to wake them up and take notice THE PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD

The sooner the UK is out of the EU the better and that is the VIEW OF ALL THOSE THAT VOTED UKIP its not that they want the destruction of the EU its that they want the UK out of it and back to governing itself trading and controlling its borders as well as making it own laws basically back to being an INDEPENDANT SELF GOVERNING NATION.

WELL DONE UKIP now start the work for the 2015 Election

I would have voted ukip if living in England. I get fed up of listening to immigration crap, and i havent lived in uk for 11 years. No memorial stopne for the squaddie who got decapitated by extreme muslims, because it might upset muslims, i say xxxx em, the abide by the uk rules.

[onni4me]

People voted wrong?

Those pesky voters...ban them!

[tubby johnson]

From the Dreyfus affair to Vichy to Le Pen, France has always been a sinister country.

But overall in Europe, the citizens have spoken out against the waste, corruption and arrogance of the Brussels regents. People want more direct democracy, accountability, safer neighbourhoods and protection of individual freedoms. A new broom in Brussels ... hooray!

[uptheos]

From the Dreyfus affair to Vichy to Le Pen, France has always been a sinister country.

But overall in Europe, the citizens have spoken out against the waste, corruption and arrogance of the Brussels regents. People want more direct democracy, accountability, safer neighbourhoods and protection of individual freedoms. A new broom in Brussels ... hooray!

Europe can have whatever they please, just give us back the UK.

[schondie]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

Call then what you will they tried calling them racist to bring them down IT DID NOT WORK in fact is made us even more resolute to vote UKIP

The political elite have ignored the people for too long and finally they have received a MASSIVE SLAP IN THE KISSER to wake them up and take notice THE PEOPLE WILL BE HEARD

The sooner the UK is out of the EU the better and that is the VIEW OF ALL THOSE THAT VOTED UKIP its not that they want the destruction of the EU its that they want the UK out of it and back to governing itself trading and controlling its borders as well as making it own laws basically back to being an INDEPENDANT SELF GOVERNING NATION.

WELL DONE UKIP now start the work for the 2015 Election

I would have voted ukip if living in England. I get fed up of listening to immigration crap, and i havent lived in uk for 11 years. No memorial stopne for the squaddie who got decapitated by extreme muslims, because it might upset muslims, i say xxxx em, the abide by the uk rules.

Another one here that hasn't lived in the UK for donkey's years but also would have voted UKIP. When I used to vote, the Referendum Party used to get my vote although I knew they'd be lucky to get their deposit back. It didn't matter as my vote wasn't wasted on one of the "forever promising the moon on a stick but failing to deliver" parties.

I'm just glad that people all across Europe are sick to the back teeth with the EU and their meddling. They have helped in giving everyone man and his dog "human rights" at the expense of native inhabitants.

People have short memories but I hope they won't forget the empty promises from the Tories after they lurch to the anti EU side.

[Lokie]

I voted UKIP in both EU and local elections,

at every turn the media have tried to put the Racist party slant on them, just watch a few of the discussions on news channels etc where they try to cross swords with Farage, he is a brilliant Orator and runs rings around most of them. People are pi$$d off with the mainstream three who all pi $ $ in the same pot anyway, time for change and time to make our own laws and look after our own people first instead of giving all these free-loaders all the benifits and free health care for Nowt, F o o k Em!!

Catch some of the hilarious Farage exchanges in the EU chamber

[CWMcMurray]

Just replying.. So I can home back to watch the YouTube video later...

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[7by7]

I would have voted ukip if living in England. I get fed up of listening to immigration crap, and i havent lived in uk for 11 years.

So it's ok for you to be an immigrant living in a foreign country, but not for foreigners to do the same in the UK?

No memorial stopne for the squaddie who got decapitated by extreme muslims, because it might upset muslims

Really? No.

From the Daily Mail

A bronze memorial is being built in Fusilier Rigby’s home town of Middleton, near Rochdale, and his name will be inscribed on a monument for fallen servicemen at the National Memorial Arboretum, Lichfield.

But nothing has been planned to commemorate the soldier in Artillery Place, where he died.

More than 12,000 people have signed a petition organised by the Memorial For Lee Rigby campaign to raise money to build a plinth there.

A number of religious groups, including the Islamic Society of Britain and the Conservative Muslim Forum, have supported the campaign.

.......

Yesterday a (Greenwich) council spokesman said it had conducted its dealings through the Army after receiving a number of bogus letters claiming to be from Fusilier Rigby’s relatives.

The spokesman added: ‘The leader of the council is writing to Lee’s family today to establish direct contact with them and to ensure we can work alongside them as they continue to remember Lee and the sacrifice he made for his country.’

But what this has to do with the European Parliament elections, only you know.

[wolf5370]

The EU parliament should be very interesting with 23 new MEP's from the UK's new "Official Monster Raving Loony Party" hell bent on the destruction on the EU.

The EU is designed to destruct Europe first of all. Unless you lived under a rock the last years, it's clearly to see we pay for regime change in (Ukraine, Greece) and out (Syria, Egypt) the EU. It's clearly they forced us into the bank way that destroyed the USA from inside out. The EU is designed to overthrow governments and take over surrounding Russia, build more army bases and get the resources cheap. They always know they can't pay back the loan and the "help to rebuild" the country. The loan mostly end up as investments and for the lobbyists and never the people who really need it. Those lobbyists also advice what the politics should decide. There for exactly we don't live in democracies in the EU and USA. Theocracy is what we have, and it's religion is MONEY. No money = fear, so we suck up the BS and pretend to May vote as long as we can pay to eat and live. But we all can be next you know? How many countries are doing better after the EU was created?

Man do you believe any of that horse muck? The USA caused the USA banking crisis and has zip all to do with the EU - some EU countries were hurt because of national banking rules that allowed them to invest - France's rules for example did NOT allow it, so they were broadly unhurt - again, these were national banking rules and not EU banking rules. The EU is NOT designed for any of the crap you waffle on about, it was designed for two things: to ensure that another world war in Europe does not happen (by making it economically a disaster to do so, hence the single currency); and to allow for easier trade and buying power able to take on the mighty USA (i.e. to help curtail the USA trade bullying that has been abound since WW2). There is no impetus to take over land - that makes no sense. What was an aim was to get all of Europe in - to allow for those two prime directives to happen - lifting ex-soviet states, and other economic light weights, up and into trading partnership - Russia has a lot of resources (coal, natural gas, oil), so is always wanted as a partner, but is unlikely to be a member of the EU - the EU can offer protection from Russian bullying of those small ex-soviet states and economic health.

Every country is now consumerist - even the last stronghold of socialism, China. Russia went that way decades ago now. Get over it!

[wolf5370]

There are many reasons to consider leaving the EU - and many reasons to stay. UKIP voters seem to hang on to all the wrong ones! With an aging population, and a welfare net that makes them a lead weight around the neck of the future (and present) economy, young workers are needed. UKIP go on about Poles etc - yet it has been shown consistently that they are conscientious, hard working, cheap and skilled, and return home when the job is done. The perfect short term immigrant. They rarely make use of the benefits system, don't tend to bring pregnant wives and sick family members, do not try to lay long term roots, and tend to rent accommodation in the private sector (albeit sharing the accommodation). The so-called "bad" immigrants, asylum seekers and illegals do not come from the EU - they don't need to - so pulling out will make no difference. More UK jobs are lost through outsourcing and body shopping to commonwealth countries, like India, than EU companies. Again, pulling out of the EU will only exacerbate that problem. There are as many UK people working in Europe as there are EU members working in the UK - fact!

Now what is really needed is not pulling out, but reforms. Merkel even showed a desire for certain reforms. Those reforms are less to do with freedom of movement - which never turned out to be the horror story the Daily Mail promised! - but with the costs of being a member - the structure of the parliament and wastage there (such as moving the whole parliament twice a year for no reason other than to appease two cities that want the income from it - at tremendous cost and inconvenience to all). Reduce the red tape and bureaucracy, and give smaller states incentives to join, but not immediate full membership. The EU is a good idea, it is hated by the USA simply because it allows for Europe as a whole to compete and makes it harder for the usual Banana market bullying that goes on.

The problems the EU had was/is with smaller states that need constant bailing out because of poor economics and governance (Greece/Portugal/Spain/Italy), and countries that survive solely on hand outs/loans/subsidy (Eire). If anything, this is because there is not enough control - take Greece - several rounds of multi-billion Euro bailouts, yet a huge overpaid army and poor oversight of budgeting and spend. If a county needs to be bailed out, then it should submit to financial control being moved to the EU until such time that it is able to stand on its own two feet. Also, the EU needs to be far more fair, less arbitrary and consistent in it penalties for breaking agreements and rules within the EU - such as illegal fishing (yes Spain, I'm looking at you!), blocking of free trade and continuing cancelled embargos (France gets that reward - truck drivers block UK imports and even burning British trucks carrying produce - continuing to ban British Beef after the Mad Cow outbreak - even though they were ignoring/hiding their own cases and Britain had been proved (independently) clear after mass cullings and burnings), and curtailments and impingement at a national level on freedom to move (several countries - including Spain that enforce registering and minimum bank balance/income levels - i.e. not free movement at all). Members should never have to put in more than they take out for more than 2 quarters - except my special agreement during times of special need.

Yes, plenty needs to be looked at - at its the right time to do so - its been long enough now and the banking crises has all but passed - and EU needs to stop that happening again (by adopting French banking controls perhaps!). Pulling out leaves Britain isolated, and would stand to lose its prominent position as the stock exchange of Europe. If it ever changed its mind, it would lose a lot of the benefits it gets now as a founding member (such as not having the Euro) - as many things that were once negotiations are now requirements of entry. A clear case of throwing the baby out with the bath water if ever there was one.

[uptheos]

I would have voted ukip if living in England. I get fed up of listening to immigration crap, and i havent lived in uk for 11 years.

So it's ok for you to be an immigrant living in a foreign country, but not for foreigners to do the same in the UK?

Personally, I wouldn't be against them having guest status with exactly the same rights we have here.

[Calach]

From the Dreyfus affair to Vichy to Le Pen, France has always been a sinister country.

But overall in Europe, the citizens have spoken out against the waste, corruption and arrogance of the Brussels regents. People want more direct democracy, accountability, safer neighbourhoods and protection of individual freedoms. A new broom in Brussels ... hooray!

Dreyfus was eventually released then cleared, in any other country at that time he would just have spent his life in jail if not been executed on the spot, Vichy was an occupation regime and Le Pen though I can't say I'm a fan would look like a shy leftist in most countries, US included.

[wolf5370]

I voted UKIP in both EU and local elections,

at every turn the media have tried to put the Racist party slant on them, just watch a few of the discussions on news channels etc where they try to cross swords with Farage, he is a brilliant Orator and runs rings around most of them. People are pi$$d off with the mainstream three who all pi $ $ in the same pot anyway, time for change and time to make our own laws and look after our own people first instead of giving all these free-loaders all the benifits and free health care for Nowt, F o o k Em!!

Catch some of the hilarious Farage exchanges in the EU chamber

Being a good orator is good for a public speaker - it does not make his policies sound. Hitler and Goebbels were great orators! A party is also more than the head man - move down a step and look at the morons that inhabit that party. Farage spouts much the same as those war time fascists, though not as extreme of course, blaming the ills on immigration etc, when the numbers just don't stack up. This is why he and his party is seen as a joke - a dangerous joke, sure, but a joke just the same. It makes no sense - is emotive crap that pulls at the bigot in us - listen to the people on the streets that vote for him when interviewed - its always the same, "immigrants". Britain NEEDS immigrants ( especially from the EU where they tend to go home after providing skilled, cheap, labour ), it has the worlds most expensive (per head of capita) welfare system in the world and an aging community of baby boomers that blew most of the country's wealth in the 80s. WRT Immigrant benefit scroungers: pregnant wives and sick relatives that get free NHS, when the husband/son comes on a work visa - are rarely from the EU - they are from old Commonwealth countries like India and Pakistan. People from Eire come to the UK and claim unemployment benefit - often whilst working in the construction industry - that was until the Poles replaced them for skills and cost and without the dole money! The Irish come not because of EU free movement, but because of agreements made back in the 1920s.

The UKIP does one thing, it helps Labour. It waters down the Tory vote. Farage would be better as a Tory candidate, and push for reform in Europe rather than trying to isolate the UK. The EU is ripe for change (Merkel showed willingness to discuss this when she visited Britain in a joint televised address with Cameron - within reason of course), but it is silly to destroy it or jump ship - that only pays the Americans and Chinese. Britain would be the loser.

[7by7]

I would have voted ukip if living in England. I get fed up of listening to immigration crap, and i havent lived in uk for 11 years.

So it's ok for you to be an immigrant living in a foreign country, but not for foreigners to do the same in the UK?

Personally, I wouldn't be against them having guest status with exactly the same rights we have here.

Do you pay income tax in Thailand?

What about the Thai equivalent of NICs (is there such a thing)?

The vast majority of immigrants to the UK, whether from the EU/EEA or from elsewhere, either pay both themselves because they are working or if they are not working then they are family members of people, usually British citizens, who do.

Do you know that one of UKIP's policies is to ban all immigration from anywhere for at least 5 years.

How would that effect you if you wanted or had to return to the UK? If you are married to a Thai then you would have to leave your spouse behind.

I urge all those thinking of supporting UKIP to have a very good look at all their policies. despite the name, they are not just an anti EU party; they have other, more sinister agenda.

[uptheos]

I would have voted ukip if living in England. I get fed up of listening to immigration crap, and i havent lived in uk for 11 years.

So it's ok for you to be an immigrant living in a foreign country, but not for foreigners to do the same in the UK?

Personally, I wouldn't be against them having guest status with exactly the same rights we have here.

Do you pay income tax in Thailand?

What about the Thai equivalent of NICs (is there such a thing)?

The vast majority of immigrants to the UK, whether from the EU/EEA or from elsewhere, either pay both themselves because they are working or if they are not working then they are family members of people, usually British citizens, who do.

Do you know that one of UKIP's policies is to ban all immigration from anywhere for at least 5 years.

How would that effect you if you wanted or had to return to the UK? If you are married to a Thai then you would have to leave your spouse behind.

I urge all those thinking of supporting UKIP to have a very good look at all their policies. despite the name, they are not just an anti EU party; they have other, more sinister agenda.

You're comparing immigrants to guests.

[7by7]

Do you live in Thailand?

If so, whether you are a visa runner, work permit holder or have a non immigrant visa of some kind; you are an immigrant.

Regardless of the legalese.

A guest is someone who plans to stay for a short period.

How long do you plan to remain in Thailand?

Bernard Flint says he has not lived in the UK for 11 years; obviously he is not living for a short period outside the UK!

[brewsterbudgen]

Electing far right, racist, xenophobic, anti-semitic MEPs is truly shocking. Something is very wrong in Le Republic.

UKIP are xenophobic but have done very well in trying to get rid of the racists and anti-semites that support them. Farage is entertaining, but in all reality they are a joke party and a protest vote against the mainstream ineffectual parties.

The turn-out in the UK says it all. Some earthquake!!