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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

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How very effective the police force seems to have become over the past week.

Wonder if they will move on gogo bars or fake goods

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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

These places are very likely to have been running under the Redshirt organisation - up until now the untouchables - one of the reasons I believe they wanted to maintain PTP at the top of the food chain - it is all linked to Power and money, I have always said that the redshirt organisation was very akin to a large scale mafia organisation, without the central government support backbone it will gradually crumble

If you truly believe that only the Redshirt organization, who commenced in about 2007 are the sole untouchables running illegal gambling dens.... in fact no you cannot be that naive surely?

You do realize that not only are their police who support the red shirts, but there are also those aligned to other political parties as well. The police did not in the last 6 years suddenly become useless, they have been useless forever, and i am sure there were no illegal gambling dens before 2003....

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I bet you they'll find another place to open real soon..

No you definitely wont because the army have reformed everything, and gambling dens were only because of red shirts................

I agree with you to an extent, but don't be so confident in the General. He is doing a wonderful job, but reform takes time.

The whole system needs purging from the infestation.

Give it time.

We will know it is time when elections come.

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I bet you they'll find another place to open real soon..

No you definitely wont because the army have reformed everything, and gambling dens were only because of red shirts................

Because you said red shirts is behind this, I'll let it slide.

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I bet you they'll find another place to open real soon..

No you definitely wont because the army have reformed everything, and gambling dens were only because of red shirts................

I agree with you to an extent, but don't be so confident in the General. He is doing a wonderful job, but reform takes time.

The whole system needs purging from the infestation.

Give it time.

We will know it is time when elections come.

I hope you are right, but just to reiterate, reform is not just swapping old faces for new friendly faces, and a few flowery 'reforms'.

To steal and expression, there needs to be a root and branch review of all agencies, laws etc If it takes 5 years so be it- but i just fear we will be sitting here in 2 years time with nothing changed, just the faces at the top of all these agencies changed to friendly ones and bubbling just below the surface there will be massive public discontent with the non action ready to boil over. I hope i am wrong.

So far they have a 0% success rate, so they need an improvement.

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There's dozens of these establishments in BKK...........and I'm sure that anyone cannot open one unless they're are well connected...........would any ex ministers know about this????:))

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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

Really! There is a gambling house next door to me owned and run by local police and the owner of the house i rent sells black market lottery. Why go after the gamblers. If they arrested the leaders this would deny the gamblers a place to go.

The gambling house mUst not have paid enough money to the police so theyare the sacrificial lamb to make a show to everyone

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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

Recently heard news about some transferred police officers?

Probably belong to some of them, when they go, their shit should go along.

I guess....

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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

These places are very likely to have been running under the Redshirt organisation - up until now the untouchables - one of the reasons I believe they wanted to maintain PTP at the top of the food chain - it is all linked to Power and money, I have always said that the redshirt organisation was very akin to a large scale mafia organisation, without the central government support backbone it will gradually crumble

Casinos were (and possibly have always been) Chalerm's 'bread n butter'. They were how he made his mark as a young police Lieutenant over in Thonburi and how he was able to take early retirement as a mere Captain to enter mainstream electoral politics.

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I bet you they'll find another place to open real soon..

No you definitely wont because the army have reformed everything, and gambling dens were only because of red shirts................

I agree with you to an extent, but don't be so confident in the General. He is doing a wonderful job, but reform takes time.

The whole system needs purging from the infestation.

Give it time.

We will know it is time when elections come.

You have grabbed that word "infestation" with enthusiasm....cool, it is so apt.

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This is a good start. Their are thousands of underground casino's and I think they all should be shut down but I doubt it will happen.

My experience is that they prefer to grab housewives gambling with their friends at home. Some neighbor who wasn't invited calls them up and they show up with a task force of twenty cops and a paddy wagon. Half dozen women, couple hundred baht in the pot. THB 1,000 for the players, THB 5,000 for the owner of the house. Lather, rinse, repeat every month. No influential people to get mad. Nice steady, predictable income until the bluenoses start complaining and then they have to really clamp down for a while. Chuwit used to have a regular thing of showing videos of casinos in Bangkok. Never shamed them.

Something like this story, I would guess these people started running a casino without paying off the phu yai baan in Ban Lamung (right next to Pattaya for thost of you who don't know the name).

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This is a good start. Their are thousands of underground casino's and I think they all should be shut down but I doubt it will happen.

Why? That's like breaking up a Saturday night poker game. No harm to anyone.

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There's dozens of these establishments in BKK...........and I'm sure that anyone cannot open one unless they're are well connected...........would any ex ministers know about this????smile.png)

Purely speculation but wasn't he filmed accompanied with the bib when they raided a gambling den in the BKK area? It's been suggested to me that he is one of those that controls the activity! He likes the ear medicine I think? whistling.gif

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If one wants to reduce police corruption, one needs to reduce the sources of illegal income to corrupt police officials. Any business in Thailand which is not legitimate enough to pay taxes must pay the police instead. Those businesses include, but are not limited to,: prostitution (karaoke, soapy, go go, beer bar, street walkers etc.), gambling (casinos, numbers, off-track betting, etc.), allowing the sale of counterfeit goods, allowing after-hours clubs, beggars' mafia, loan sharks, protection rackets, extortion, blackmail, and bribery. These are just the things the ranking officers get a cut of. Also, inside the police are gangs of drug smugglers/runners/dealers, theft rings, gun runners, and scams of all sorts (remember last year when police dropped ATM cards near ATMs and arrested anyone who tried to use them? After scaring the 'mark' into paying a bribe, they were let go). If the junta wants to reform the RTP, they have a very long 'row to hoe' ahead of them as, IMO, the RTP is corrupt through and through, top to bottom.

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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

These places are very likely to have been running under the Redshirt organisation - up until now the untouchables - one of the reasons I believe they wanted to maintain PTP at the top of the food chain - it is all linked to Power and money, I have always said that the redshirt organisation was very akin to a large scale mafia organisation, without the central government support backbone it will gradually crumble

Casinos were (and possibly have always been) Chalerm's 'bread n butter'. They were how he made his mark as a young police Lieutenant over in Thonburi and how he was able to take early retirement as a mere Captain to enter mainstream electoral politics.

Maybe it's the price that has to be paid to allow him and his 2 thugs out of the slammer?? laugh.pngclap2.gif

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What are in back ground? They didn't pay enough money to police, or tried to cheat on them. The most of black games and lottery belong to police.

If you ask your Thai mate: do u know black casino / lottery. They will ask yes of course. So if every-one know them why is this a big case to raid on one ???

(the answer is in the first line:)

These places are very likely to have been running under the Redshirt organisation - up until now the untouchables - one of the reasons I believe they wanted to maintain PTP at the top of the food chain - it is all linked to Power and money, I have always said that the redshirt organisation was very akin to a large scale mafia organisation, without the central government support backbone it will gradually crumble

Quite possibly, there a few kinds of Gambling den, all which are illegal, they all pay tea money to someone and come in three main guises, the ones protected by political affiliation, the ones protected by the police and the ones protected by the military... guess which one it most certainly wasnt ? whistling.gif

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