Aussie Holiday visa advice for a newbie

[paddycon]

Hi guys,

Ive been reading lots here and have got lots of great info but I feel my circumstances are a little different than most as you all seem to be regular visitors to Thailand and I am new to the whole thing so please be gentle on me

In my research about visa applications I see that evidence of our relationship, adequate funds and a reason to return to Thailand seem to be very important aspects of it and I am not sure if we would be able to prove enough to meet the criteria for the application

I have only visited Thailand once spent 10 day with the lady and have been in constant contact since for about 2 months but we have been in contact over skype calls and whatsap messenger neither of which i can really prove or print of transcripts of our comunications,

As for adequate funds i can prove that i have enough to support her for her stay but as we only know each other a short time I can show that i have been supporting her although i have only sent 2 monthly payment to her I am worried that it may not be enough to show a long term commitment.

On the reason to return to Thailand it seems to be more a case of having work to return too is this essential? As her current situation is that she has moved back up to her village and is not working (as she was working in a bar i would prefare it this way) she has not formally quit her job yet but is planning on it very soon but i am worried that this may hinder her application if ahe has no work to return to.

On the plus side to this argument though she has a 4yo daughter and i think this would be more of a reason to return to Thailand than for a job will they take this in to concideration at all if mentioned in the visa application?

Now they are the main points that I am worried about, I am sure most of you will probably tell me I am mad and a fool to fall for a girl after such a short time and to be honest i wouldn't disagree with you as i kind of think that my self. But it is also the main reason that I would like to get her here for a holiday sooner rather than later as I am supporting her I do not want to do it for a long time if things might not work out between us I dont want to have threw to much money towards her especially after most of the stories i have read on here about people getting taken for a ride by gold diggers.

One last thing that I thought i should mention that is worring her more so than me as I havent seen it mentioned any where before so I dont think it should be an issue but she has heard it will be, is the fact that she has been previously married and is currently trying to get a divorce as she thinks getting a passport in her ex-husbands name would hinder her chances of getting a holiday visa. Unfortunatly her ex-husband is not cooperating with her getting the divorce through and she doesnt want to start the visa process until she has it finalised has any one had an issue with any of this before or think that it may be a problem?

Thanks in advance for all the helpful comments and although i want honest opinions about every thing mentioned please go easy on me as i am a newbie lol

[loppylugs1]

Hello Newbie All I can say is "some mothers do 'ave 'em"

[loppylugs1]

Npbody else answering ,probably think you are a troll,never mind.

First thing always presume they are lying (as this one is without doubt) the lies get greater and greater until she cannot remember which day yesterday was

When caught out eventually she will say "you bad man" which will make you happy ,because you know that that is a lie too

[paddycon]

I tend to be a sceptical kind of person and always think people are lying to me but I will give the benefit of the doubt until I can catch them out which usually does not take very long.

In this case I have good reason to believe that all she has told me so far is the truth but I think things may change when she gets back to pattaya so i will just have to wait and see what happens then currently she is deffinatly in iisan as i video chat with her a few times a day and see where she is

[Surin13]

It's unlikely that you will get a tourist visa given the information you have provided.

Mostly due to the limited time you have known each other and limited face to face contact.

Her work or lack of work history is another negative.

Research on this forum about the tourist visa and you will see what is generally required.

You could always give it a go and see as it's not much money.

[woody087]

It can be done.I met my girl in January, together 1 week, again in April, together 2 weeks and was granted a visa in May. She left her job in April so at time of application she had no job and had moved back to her village ,and had very little money in the bank.That was 7 years ago now been married for 5 years with 2 kids.So just apply and see what happens

Sent from my GT-P5210 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[krisb]

Just dont mention bar girl on her employment history.

Maiden name change and divorce without her husband being there can be done. No idea how, she should know.

Good luck.

[paddycon]

thanks for the replies guys I might try for it once and see what happens if we dont get accepted i'll take another holiday to see her and try and build a better case for it while there, I plan on going to to thailand and flying back with her if she is succesful in her visa any way so maybe make it a slightly longer holiday and try for a second application while over there if the first one is declined before i go

[David48]

It's unlikely that you will get a tourist visa given the information you have provided.

Mostly due to the limited time you have known each other and limited face to face contact.

Her work or lack of work history is another negative.

Research on this forum about the tourist visa and you will see what is generally required.

You could always give it a go and see as it's not much money.

+1

Unless you are very creative with the application ... the 10 days together was the first time, when reading your OP I went ...

We wish you good luck, because, at the end of the day ... we want you both to be happy together ... but I don't see any immediate answers for you apart from more time together.

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[jacksam]

Just went through the process. Gez I've lived here 2 years with the thai gf. Visiting au for 3 weeks. Pm me if you wish. You have few hurdles. First of all is you have known her sweet f.a.

Unwritten law is 6 months. Also you saw her ONCE. <deleted> man, i will tell you all about thailand if you wish

Anyway. Have you thought this through. You sound young , meaning undrr 40. Don't sound like a millionaire. What are your scenarios. Geez mate... she has young child here. You have only ONE option that is, she lives in your country,

Do the sums. Hells bells i dont want to sound smart, but i did the hard yards, made my money and now live here on retirement visa.

Work hard come back when you go up and grab another one.

I met my chick, 2 years now in a bar. Same you.

Daily i am adked " jack can you find me good man like you " fom ladies in bar while sitting with my gf.

Might add good man = take care.

But will still help you if you want. As they say , you can only leed a horse to water.

[jacksam]

Probably being bit harsh. However, please take care. Most members won't respond because they thinkthis is a troll post. Why you ask? ,,,, because it is so lame. Every bloke here has been shagg**g a lady for weeks at a time, and the boyfriend rings. I used to leave room for a walk or sit on toilet if we were half way through.please no kid youself about the skye stuff. She has gone home for a well earned rest. When she goes back in few weeks, there will be excellent reason. Get with the programme.

Soory to be harsh but how DUMB are farang

[jacksam]

It's unlikely that you will get a tourist visa given the information you have provided.

Mostly due to the limited time you have known each other and limited face to face contact.

Her work or lack of work history is another negative.

Research on this forum about the tourist visa and you will see what is generally required.

You could always give it a go and see as it's not much money.

+1

Unless you are very creative with the application ... the 10 days together was the first time, when reading your OP I went ...

We wish you good luck, because, at the end of the day ... we want you both to be happy together ... but I don't see any immediate answers for you apart from more time together .

Geez David.....I know you help many mmbers, including myself. However going to start calling you Mr Manners. I do have empathy for this bloke but fact is he is star stuck. As we all are caable of when arrive the LOS. Fact is, it was first trip, and known her a total of 10 days. Whats her to his country quickly as to protect his " investment" ....as in , I don't want to waste too much money. No wonder he had tiugh time in farang world,

Also no details of ages, countries, his history etc.

Thinking this is a troll

[Will27]

thanks for the replies guys I might try for it once and see what happens if we dont get accepted i'll take another holiday to see her and try and build a better case for it while there, I plan on going to to thailand and flying back with her if she is succesful in her visa any way so maybe make it a slightly longer holiday and try for a second application while over there if the first one is declined before i go

I think you would be better off not applying now and waiting for your second trip and then apply.

At least it shows 2 visits and gives you a bit more time together.

Like Surin13 says, your limited together is a big hurdle.

[Will27]

After re-reading your post, this is what concerns me the most

"One last thing that I thought i should mention that is worring her more so than me as I havent seen it mentioned any where before so I dont think it should be an issue but she has heard it will be, is the fact that she has been previously married and is currently trying to get a divorce as she thinks getting a passport in her ex-husbands name would hinder her chances of getting a holiday visa. Unfortunatly her ex-husband is not cooperating with her getting the divorce through and she doesnt want to start the visa process until she has it finalised has any one had an issue with any of this before or think that it may be a problem?"

The name on her passport will have no relevance to any visa application.

You say that she does not want to start the visa application until this is sorted.

That's a big red flag to me. As you're sending her a monthly payment, if she is

stringing you along, it is in her interest to drag it out as long as possible.

You should try and call her bluff and say that you've spoken to Immigration and

the name on the passport is not important and that you want to go ahead with the

application ASAP and see what she says.

And don't get conned into sending her money for tickets etc.

Like I advised previously, I would apply on your next visit but I understand your

concern if you're sending her money every month.

A bit more information would give scope for more information like age difference

and how much are you sending her. Did she ask for a certain amount or did you

offer one.

Just tread very carefully here mate.

[David48]

^^ Sage advice from Khun Will ...

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[David48]

Unless you are very creative with the application ... the 10 days together was the first time, when reading your OP I went ...

We wish you good luck, because, at the end of the day ... we want you both to be happy together ... but I don't see any immediate answers for you apart from more time together .

Geez David.....I know you help many members, including myself. However going to start calling you Mr Manners. I do have empathy for this bloke but fact is he is star stuck. As we all are capable of when arrive the LOS. Fact is, it was first trip, and known her a total of 10 days. Whats her to his country quickly as to protect his " investment" ....as in , I don't want to waste too much money. No wonder he had tough time in farang world,

Also no details of ages, countries, his history etc.

Thinking this is a troll

Mate, your words are too kind.

I've learnt from other's mistakes on this Forum.

Now I have a beautiful gf, two cheeky monkeys (identical twin boys) 7 months old, a supportive Thai Family who don't ask for anything, I'm respected by them as much as a Westerner can be, certainly considered one of the Family.

I only got this far with the help of others on the Forum ... either through their advice or by reading their mistakes.

I consider myself a lucky man ... so when someone else here asks for a hand up with some Visa help ... I and many of the other guys, such as Will27 (just to name one) above try and help where we can.

We don't know everything ... but we try and share our experiences to date.

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[jacksam]

So true'... Think Will prety much hit nail on the head. Hope the OP listens to his advice.

Mind you haven't heard much from the op re more details ages country etc. Maybe he has seen the light or maybe slack

[jacksam]

So true'... Think Will prety much hit nail on the head. Hope the OP listens to his advice.

Mind you haven't heard much from the op re more details ages country etc. Maybe he has seen the light or maybe slack

[jacksam]

So true'... Think Will prety much hit nail on the head. Hope the OP listens to his advice.

Mind you haven't heard much from the op re more details ages country etc. Maybe he has seen the light or maybe slack

[jacksam]

So true'... Think Will prety much hit nail on the head. Hope the OP listens to his advice.

Mind you haven't heard much from the op re more details ages country etc. Maybe he has seen the light or maybe slack

[krisb]

Will, the name on her pp is important.

If it (surname) differs from her id card, or says Mrs, she will be denied. Its all gotta add up, unless he gets lucky with vfs, which he may.

This guys not a troll btw, I know that for sure.

[krisb]

So true'... Think Will prety much hit nail on the head. Hope the OP listens to his advice.

Mind you haven't heard much from the op re more details ages country etc. Maybe he has seen the light or maybe slack

Hes Australian, likely age 30 something.

Not uncommon for new members to go quiet on us.

I wish him all the best. Great if he gets her a visa

[Will27]

Will, the name on her pp is important.

If it (surname) differs from her id card, or says Mrs, she will be denied. Its all gotta add up, unless he gets lucky with vfs, which he may.

This guys not a troll btw, I know that for sure.

Mate, I don't really understand where you're coming from about her being denied?

She hasn't got a passport as yet. So she can get one using the name that matches

her Thai ID and get it changed later if necessary.

Or am I missing something?

BTW, I never said or indicated that OP was a troll if that was directed at me.

[krisb]

Will, the name on her pp is important.

If it (surname) differs from her id card, or says Mrs, she will be denied. Its all gotta add up, unless he gets lucky with vfs, which he may.

This guys not a troll btw, I know that for sure.

Mate, I don't really understand where you're coming from about her being denied?

She hasn't got a passport as yet. So she can get one using the name that matches

her Thai ID and get it changed later if necessary.

Or am I missing something?

BTW, I never said or indicated that OP was a troll if that was directed at me.

Sorry mate, someone mentioned troll, not directed at yourself at all.

If her Thai id says Mrs, her pp will also say mrs.

She won't get a visa sponsored by her new bf if assumed to be married. The title mrs assumes this role. Denied. Her Thai id gets the pp ball rolling, this needs to be changed first.

[paddycon]

Sorry guys just in from work and cant get the "thaivisa" app to work on my phone and to much hastle to type on the full forum on it.

Firstly I think we must have different definations of a troll, my thoughts on a troll is some one who joins others threads and posts irrelevent and nasty comments when they usually have no clue what there talking about. I started a thread to get relevent information from those of you that are experianced in the visa process as i know failed applications can count against other further applications.

Now thanks for all the comments guys and finally getting a bit of a discussion going and some useful information flowing

There are calls for some more information as the title says I am in Australia I am 31 and she is 26. (i didnt say before as i didnt want to overload the first post with TMI and knew if it was relevent that it would be asked)

yes it was my first time to Thailand and i am a little star struck by the whole thing but i was around a lot of bars and bar girls and I think I have spotted a few qualities in this girl that i failed to see in any others.

As regards to Wills post i have thought of that my self that she is trying to string me along to keep the cash flowing and she has just gone home for a well deserved break, She had told me when i was over that she was due to go home in a couple of weeks but only planning on going for 3 days this was long before I thought I would be staying in contact with her and at the end of my holiday i gave her a little extra cash and told her to take a longer break and spend more time with her daughter this was not some thing she asked for or expected at the time, So far she has been home for almost 2 weeks as i have been asking her to get her passport she has been told to have her name changed before she does this and that is why she is staying so long.but dont think she will stay long enough to wait for my next payment to come

Currently i have only sent her one payment but planed on having one more sent before i make an application if i get the right information and think it is feesable to make an application at all. So far my feelings about it are very mixed with the replies i am getting.

My main reason for wanting the visa is to be sure i am not being conned out of my hard earned the way I see it if i can get her a visa and take her out here it will cost about the same as me going there and i will see how she would handle living in a western culture as that is where i will be living for the next 30 years

I know I seem very nieve about the whole thing but I am here looking for information as i do feel stupid to have any kind of feelings for a lady i met in this way i had laughed at others in the past taking thai girls home and thought it would be the last thing i would be doing until i went to Thailand and met a lovely lady

OK i think i am starting to repeat my self here so i'll post it and wait for some more replies

and thanks again for all of your help and understanding

[BookMan]

Op,

You should be able to download your Whatsapp or Skype message history. Even it is just video calls it will have time and duration. You can print that history out. I did.

IMO you should invest in another trip to Thailand before making the application, given the short duration..

Also what KhunWill, wrote in post #14. Some good advice there. I'm sure all your feelings for her are genuine and hopefully hers are too. Doesn't hurt to make extra sure.

[Gopro]

Anythings possible. I know a guy who met a girl, he knew her for 12 hours, I kid you not, they took some photo's during that time. However he'd been to LOS several times. But not to see this one girl.

He was so head over heals, he got her a tourist visa the next week.

I know he told lies, but hey she's in Melbourne now sucking his sav and he's happy as a pig in shit. I think she goes home next month.

Disclaimer***telling lies to DIAC is a criminal offence - not to be encouraged

Edited August 19, 2014 by Gopro

[jacksam]

I was one person who suggested op was troll. Clearly not and has given us more detail.

Paddy your very young in sense of wealth accumulation. What i mean is that at 31 your taking on a lot here and i do mean just daughter.

What are you sending her each month. 20k would be plenty esp back in village with daughter.

Many members would suggest half this. Point is she worked ( still employed ) in bar.

There she would earn 30 up. Prob lot more.

I think your between rock and hard place.

Send her 20k for couple of months and get your ass back for another visit. Then aim to get her to AU month later.

Just a side note. Dont for one moment that she may want to live permanently in AU.

THAI love their connection to family and country and the "sisters"

Good luck

[paddycon]

I have only sent her 13k as i know she had been sending 8k a month to mama to take care of the family and i figured 5k would keep her but from what i have noticed her spending i'm guessing is close to gone at this stage but ive made it clear she'll get no more as i have to save for holidays etc aswell.

I know it will be alot to take on with her daughter and all but as you say and as i kindo think my self she probablly wont want to live in AU permanently but i figure if i get her here for a holiday our relationship will be proven either way and if its good then i will be able to handle the responcibilities involved and move from there

I am now thinking more towards the idea of another trip out there for 2 weeks and maybe apply for visa while there and see if she could come back with me if it is granted

[jacksam]

Hells Bells Paddy. You need help big time,. I'm not having crack at u cause i am AU.

HERE'S the thing. 13k is sweet f A.

She can earn that in a week in pattaya.

I had no idea that this was the extent of your support.

Get out. You have lost zero compared to many.

Your content indicates your not a fool. But trust me your support level for her and long term plans indicate the very opposite.

Send me her cell and on your behalf i will show you how thailand works. Im on koh Lan right now looking across at pattaya I think i just saw her.