Mahidol University named top in medical science category

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Mahidol U named top in medical science category
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

MU vice president Surakit Nathi-suwan said the rankings reflected the university's quality, especially in the biological and medical-science field, which had long been MU's strong point. "This also shows that a Thai university is able to compete on the world stage," he said.

He urged parents to have faith in Thai learning institutions, despite the bad press Thai education received, because many universities were determined to improve the country's education.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

QS considered six aspects when formulating the rankings - academic reputation, graduates' employer reputation, the ratio of lecturers to students, academic citations in the past five years, the ratio of foreign lecturers, and the ratio of international students.

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-- The Nation 2014-09-26

[zydeco]

What is missing from this story? In the 2010 QS rankings, Mahidol was 228th in the world. So, the university is actually on a significant decline. Even worse, the last time I looked in the THE World rankings, MU was not even in the top 400. THE is much more comprehensive than QS and is what most universities throughout the world use to evaluate their position against other institutions. The fact that a university with a medical school cannot crack the THE top 400 is a scandal. It is shameful. The new THE rankings for this year come out on 1 October. So, let's see where MU is there. This is all indicative of bad leadership, short-sightedness in overall goals, and lack of vision as to the mission of the university. Instead of bragging, these people should feel humiliated.

[Upset]

Ask them to go learn English first! Example of a satire: Cheap British Oversized Female comes to cheap hospital in Bangkok called Yeeeee, speaks to doctor about liposuction and says" take everthing away in my abdominal zone so I can wear bikini and go to Southern Islands, Doctor graduate from MU says OK. After surgery...patients gets a shock...her navel is missing! Confronting her doctor, he says....sorry I do understand your English much!

[Loles]

Ask them to go learn English first! Example of a satire: Cheap British Oversized Female comes to cheap hospital in Bangkok called Yeeeee, speaks to doctor about liposuction and says" take everthing away in my abdominal zone so I can wear bikini and go to Southern Islands, Doctor graduate from MU says OK. After surgery...patients gets a shock...her navel is missing! Confronting her doctor, he says....sorry I do understand your English much!

???

[chiang mai]

Ask them to go learn English first! Example of a satire: Cheap British Oversized Female comes to cheap hospital in Bangkok called Yeeeee, speaks to doctor about liposuction and says" take everthing away in my abdominal zone so I can wear bikini and go to Southern Islands, Doctor graduate from MU says OK. After surgery...patients gets a shock...her navel is missing! Confronting her doctor, he says....sorry I do understand your English much!

[trainman34014]

Shame that top here is bottom just about anywhere else !

[Upset]

For those of you confused, most of the programmes at Mahidol especially its Medical programmes are all taught in Thai!!...Yes they do have a Inter programme now that is in English, even then....a lot of the subjects are still covered in Thai!!! You will be surprised at the English proficiency of a lot of these doctors and they are expected to feed the hospitals to cater for cheap foreigners who come here for medical tourism.

[Pib]

One thing for sure, MU is growing like crazy...plenty of recently completed and outgoing construction on the MU campus. The Salaya area where MU is located on the western border of Bangkok city limits is growing like crazy. I live in western Bangkok and construction is occurring everywhere...it seems to have accelerated greatly starting in 2012 which was right after the big flood of 2011.

[NongKhaiKid]

Shame that top here is bottom just about anywhere else !

It also proves statistics can prove whatever you want depending on how they are presented.

[Elmer Gantry]

For those of you confused, most of the programmes at Mahidol especially its Medical programmes are all taught in Thai!!...Yes they do have a Inter programme now that is in English, even then....a lot of the subjects are still covered in Thai!!! You will be surprised at the English proficiency of a lot of these doctors and they are expected to feed the hospitals to cater for cheap foreigners who come here for medical tourism.

Stupid foreigners,can you please clarify definition of tourist.I always thought a tourist was someone on holiday.If you go back to hurricane Katrina devastated the US and the great leader at the time offered medical assistance,you might find it was declined by the US on the grounds that Thai doctors were not recognised internationally as competent for medical insurance purposes.Do you know of any Thai trained nurses recruited in in the US or Europe.I know for sure that the NHS in the UK recruits Philipina nurses without any problems.

[CobraSnakeNecktie]

Congratulations are in order except that it's the equivalent to a participation trophy at the special olympics.

[american12bthai]

One thing for sure, MU is growing like crazy...plenty of recently completed and outgoing construction on the MU campus. The Salaya area where MU is located on the western border of Bangkok city limits is growing like crazy. I live in western Bangkok and construction is occurring everywhere...it seems to have accelerated greatly starting in 2012 which was right after the big flood of 2011.

about salaya... MU might be a decent school. But MUIC and MUIDS's reputation are bringing it down. for example, the MUIDS administration were all fired from a previous school for... buying land with school funds and selling them for profit. now they run a for profit high school. MUIC... well... lol. behaves and operates like a middle school and i wasted money...learning things i already knew.

[harrry]

Interesting that QS is not in fact a publisher....except of recruitment guides. It is almost exclusively a company that seems to make its money from recruitment fairs for universities.....Guess which ones.

Not that Mahidol is not a decent University but these surveys are very suspect.

Edited September 26, 2014 by harrry

[jacky54]

Great place to get your teeth done, this week it was free one day- Mahidol day, and the dentists speak Englsih

[Don Aleman]

The 6 qualifiers listed, ( last paragraph), have absolutely nothing to do with evaluating an individual graduates ability to THINK.. I seriously doubt any would be offered positions at Google, Micrsoft, Ford, etc., except in the domestic dept.

What counts in the real world are results -- papers/books published, patents issued, international recognition ,and Thailand U's have none of these. Coming in 49 th in a race of 50 participants would get me a spanking !

[zydeco]

What counts in the real world are results -- papers/books published, patents issued, international recognition ,and Thailand U's have none of these. Coming in 49 th in a race of 50 participants would get me a spanking !

Yes, absolutely. The poor ex student at MUIC, above, puts forth a good case. Many of these departments, especially at MUIC, are hiring people without PhDs--hiring them only because they speak English. And so it does appear to be a glorified middle school. That a full time faculty member would only hold a B.A. from an even lower ranked Thai university and be qualified to teach in a field outside his/her undergraduate degree is pitiful. There is no excuse for not hiring a full staff of PhDs to teach at universities--unless you're trying to go cheap and just make money. In my contact with MUIC students, btw, I find them to be fairly polished English speakers, most with a creative bent, and eager--until their long term exposure to MUIC. And that is the problem: Thai universities killing off creativity and curiosity, so they can chase down things such as uniformity (literally), obedience, and conformity.

[Crazy chef 1]

Ask them to go learn English first! Example of a satire: Cheap British Oversized Female comes to cheap hospital in Bangkok called Yeeeee, speaks to doctor about liposuction and says" take everthing away in my abdominal zone so I can wear bikini and go to Southern Islands, Doctor graduate from MU says OK. After surgery...patients gets a shock...her navel is missing! Confronting her doctor, he says....sorry I do understand your English much!

???

must be the famous British humor- not understandable for non natives...

[Commerce]

Great place to get your teeth done, this week it was free one day- Mahidol day, and the dentists speak Englsih

Spot on! One thing Mahidol does excel at is producing top dentists.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Commerce

[jacky54]

Root canal 4k crowns from 10k can't beat it, in Bkk anyway.

[Mudcrab]

For those of you confused, most of the programmes at Mahidol especially its Medical programmes are all taught in Thai!!...Yes they do have a Inter programme now that is in English, even then....a lot of the subjects are still covered in Thai!!! You will be surprised at the English proficiency of a lot of these doctors and they are expected to feed the hospitals to cater for cheap foreigners who come here for medical tourism.

You would prefer Swahili?

Why do you think a Thai University, in Thailand, teaching Thai students would teach in the native Thai language?

This surprises you?

[chiang mai]

double post

Edited September 26, 2014 by chiang mai

[chiang mai]

For those of you confused, most of the programmes at Mahidol especially its Medical programmes are all taught in Thai!!...Yes they do have a Inter programme now that is in English, even then....a lot of the subjects are still covered in Thai!!! You will be surprised at the English proficiency of a lot of these doctors and they are expected to feed the hospitals to cater for cheap foreigners who come here for medical tourism.

Blah, blah, And for those of you who don't have a clue, doctors in Thailand cannot graduate unless they pass English proficiency, it is basic requirement.

[gcdhar]

I am proud that I was a student of Mahidol University.

[chiang mai]

I am proud that I was a student of Mahidol University.

And so you should be, well done.

[Pib]

For those of you confused, most of the programmes at Mahidol especially its Medical programmes are all taught in Thai!!...Yes they do have a Inter programme now that is in English, even then....a lot of the subjects are still covered in Thai!!! You will be surprised at the English proficiency of a lot of these doctors and they are expected to feed the hospitals to cater for cheap foreigners who come here for medical tourism.

Blah, blah, And for those of you who don't have a clue, doctors in Thailand cannot graduate unless they pass English proficiency, it is basic requirement.

Yeap, all the doctors I've had the pleasure of taking care of me and the wife here in Bangkok over the last half dozen years could speak basic to good English...I had no problem communicating with them in English. And no, we are not using high price hospitals in central Bangkok that get a lot of medical tourism/farang customers where you would expect plenty of English speaking capability. The doctors the wife and I have had over the years even write-up the Medical Certificates in English that we need for insurance claims. And in many cases the medical reports, like blood test results and written evaluations by specialists such as mammogram/ultrasound results, etc., have always been in English. English is how the doctors are communicating with each other in records in many cases. Now, for the "nurses" I have found their English capability to be poor.

Now I have no doubt that in locations/hospitals were there are few farang patients that a doctor's English can get rusty.

Heck, even the blood and urine test results my "Vet" got back on our dog yesterday were in English and my Vet knows basic English...he can speak, read, and write it.

Edited September 26, 2014 by Pib

[kannot]

"must try harder" thats all they told me at school too!!

[kannot]

Root canal 4k crowns from 10k can't beat it, in Bkk anyway.

"smile dental centre" Seacon square will beat that.

[jacky54]

Root canal 4k crowns from 10k can't beat it, in Bkk anyway.

"smile dental centre" Seacon square will beat that.

Dental centres in shopping centres are normally to be avoided on health grounds, what do they charge and do they auto clave the instruments?

[culicine]

The 6 qualifiers listed, ( last paragraph), have absolutely nothing to do with evaluating an individual graduates ability to THINK.. I seriously doubt any would be offered positions at Google, Micrsoft, Ford, etc., except in the domestic dept.

What counts in the real world are results -- papers/books published, patents issued, international recognition ,and Thailand U's have none of these. Coming in 49 th in a race of 50 participants would get me a spanking !

Now that you mention it, I know of a recent graduate from Chula who just got a position with Google:) Obviously these are few and far between though.

[Tokay]

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

No thanks.