As the subject says I am sure I should have just started with a multi entry visa; anyway I'm lacking confidence /direction. We are in Hua Hinn immigration area; they make copies of everything and pics at the door.

US male with non O to stay with Thai spouse visa from DC consulate. Wife has Thai ID/PP/copy of House Reg/ plus we have copies of marriage cert from Lop Buri 39 yrs ago (also have translated-certified copy) and Thai records all have her name correctly. ( She also has a US PP but I don't think I should put that into the mix)

I already have a Res Certificate from imm I used for drivers lisc, so current.

I have multiple current US bank accounts and retirement docs but no certificate from Embassy.

I hope to prepare for an extension or transfer to a multi entry:

1. Will imm accept the financial docs w/o Emb cert letter?

2. When is the earliest date prior to 90 expiration for me to present my request?

3. based on above, am I missing docs?

Thanks for assistance in advance.

You do need the embassy letter. The immigration offices cannot be bothered to look through your "US bank accounts and retirement docs" and only rarely ask to see supporting documents for the income declared in the embassy letter. Incidentally, bank account statements are not evidence of income. I'm afraid you will have to shell out whatever your embassy asks you for the certification of that affidavit.

You can apply for the one-year extension any time during the last 30 days of your current permission to stay. Best not to wait until the last day; the one-year extension will be added onto to expiration of your current period to stay.

$50 or 1600 baht!

Regarding the documents required, there are some variations form one immigration office to the other. Somebody will come along to give you a list of the general requirements, and if you state at what immigration office you will apply somebody with experience with that office may also chime in.

Regarding your "marriage cert from Lop Buri 39 yrs ago (also have translated-certified copy)" I guess this is the form KR.3 issued by the Lopburi district office and is in Thai. No translation into another language is need. Most, if not all, immigration offices also want the KR.2, which is a copy of the marriage registry entry. Some immigration offices also ask for a copy of your embassy's certificate of freedom to marry, which you submitted to the district office at the time you got married.

Maestro, on 19 Nov 2014 - 16:59, said:

Regarding the documents required, there are some variations form one immigration office to the other. Somebody will come along to give you a list of the general requirements, and if you state at what immigration office you will apply somebody with experience with that office may also chime in.

Regarding your "marriage cert from Lop Buri 39 yrs ago (also have translated-certified copy)" I guess this is the form KR.3 issued by the Lopburi district office and is in Thai. No translation into another language is need. Most, if not all, immigration offices also want the KR.2, which is a copy of the marriage registry entry. Some immigration offices also ask for a copy of your embassy's certificate of freedom to marry, which you submitted to the district office at the time you got married.

Thanks for the valuable information. I mentioned the Hua Hinn office; that's where I will give a try. However, this marriage was filed/recorded/etc 39 years ago so what they gave us was a rather formal doc in Thai which has been recognized by just about everyone, i.e. Thai PP and ID name changes, US citizenship / PP/ and on since.

I'm not aware of a KR3 or 2; hopefully they will accept the original format. Anyway, now more confident, I will trek over to the US Emb and wait ukntil I hit the 30 day window. thanks again

You have to make an appointment at the Embassy, not just "trek over" anymore. Here's the link: http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/service.html

It's a sworn notarized statement, no backup documentation is required. The form can be downloaded from the link that I provided.

You will need to get an income affidavit from the embassy. You will need to make an appointment to get. You will need nothing but your passport and a completed affidavit form. Info and links to fill in online or download here: http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/service/notarial-services.html#income_affidavit

The next thing will be the Kor Ror 2. Yours is probably not in the computer system. You should have your wife check at the local Amphoe to see if it is. If not she will need to contact the Amphoe where your marriage is registered and ask them to to get it entered. If not you might need to go there to get it sorted out. Contact info for Amphoes here: http://www.amphoe.com/main.php

When you apply for the extension you will need 2 sets of copies of everything and 2 TM7 application forms.

Marriage certificate. Kor Ror 2, wife's house book and ID card, Map to house. Photos of you and your wife in and around the house one of the photos must show both of you showing the house number. Copies of your passport pages and TM6 departure card.

You can apply up to the last day of your current entry there is no minimum time to apply.

If you need additional time to get you documents together you can get a 60 day extension to visit your wife and then do the one year extension. Your wife will need to go with you when you apply.

Ubonjoe, Re your last part of your post, "If you need additional time to get you documents together you can get a 60 day extension to visit your wife and then do the one year extension. Your wife will need to go with you when you apply."

If this means I can get an extension for at least 30 days then I may as well just restart it from scratch again with DC, as I will be back to US before long. It seems easier plus medical/police/financials are not hard over there, I might just get the O-A from them. I'm almost afraid to ask how-to details of that extension. ?

You could apply for an extension of stay based upon retirement instead of marriage.

You would need to get the income affidavit proving an income of at least 65k baht. If you are short on income you could put enough money in the bank to make up the difference to reach a total of 800k baht.

You would then just need copies of your passport and TM6 departure card.

In order to get the OA visa in the states you would need the same income. The only difference would be that you could keep the money in states if you are short of 65k baht income.

Almost sounds like its too easy to be true, only kidding. So, I get an income affidavit and walk in with PP w/ departure card plus fees and get a 1 yr extension? (funds here or there are not an issue and I have 3 retirement verifications with me) Am I over simplifying this? sorry if I'm being redundant, but every time I think I see a light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be a Loht fife coming at me.

It is as simple as that.

Income affidavit showing the income in dollars equal to or greater than 65k baht. Immigration will convert to baht when you apply.

Completed TM7 application form with a 4cm X 6cm photo attached.

Copies of your passport photo page, visa. entry/permit to stay stamp and TM6 departure card. Some offices may want copies of every page of your passport.

Proof of residence will also be needed.

Thank you very much indeed. BTW, am a fng on TVF but I already picked up that you have a very good reputation; its well validated. mvb

if you are going back to the states after the 1 year extension do not forget to obtain a re-entry permit either single entry or multi entry, this will keep your permission to stay stamp alive whilst out of the country.

Back for one more (hopefully the last) question on this topic.

Aside from having the above documents, etc now timing is my question: I am obviously still on my 90 non-o w/spouse which is valid for about 60 more days. We are planning upcountry visit during the last month or more so I will not be near my "home Imm Office" unless I travel back just for the extension. If I attempt to req extension in mid-Dec, almost 50 days before expiration, is this maybe going to wave red flags or violate a reg/policy that I do know about and cause issues? I read that the extension in added on to the validity date but if not I would forego the longer time to avoid the travel. thanks again

You can apply up to 30 days early or 45 at some offices. They are not very flexible on doing them any earlier.

ubonjoe, on 06 Dec 2014 - 14:36, said:

You can apply up to 30 days early or 45 at some offices. They are not very flexible on doing them any earlier.

Well, good to know. 45 days will be right in the middle of holidays but I need to find out how long the embassy letter is good for. Is there a standard i.e. 30-60-90 days from date of certification?

An income letter up to 6 months old will be accepted.