Tottenham Thread

[uptheos]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

How about these statistics

Excellent through ball 1

Dribble round keeper 1

Goals scored 1

Points total 3

The only stats that really mattered.

AVB doesn't seem to have the bottle to play Lamela, so that's money wasted.

Soldado is not the real deal IMO, so that too is money wasted.

Whose decision was it to bring these two in Baldini's or AVB's?

Edited November 11, 2013 by uptheos

[SantiSuk]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Not winning games where you dominate possession is an increasingly frequent occurrence in the EPL. Arsenal specialised in it up to a year ago and rediscovered that art yesterday. You have specialised in it this year. Dortmund had a go at it on Wednesday night too!

Edited November 11, 2013 by SantiSuk

[YoungBrit]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

[uptheos]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

The guy can't head a ball properly.

[binnsy1]

Sold-a-DO-DO

Quite ironic really as probaly the most chances we've created all season.Shame we had only one sub left at HT as it meant we couldn't introduce a more attacking player such as Lamela for Sig at half time as 11 passes for Sig shows how much out of the game he was.The high line looked a little bit dodgy in the first half without Lloris but that seemed to be rectified at half time perhaps with Kaboul coming on helping.

Defoe was his usual unproductive self when coming on, although it was for 21 mins he only managed to pass the ball 3 times, no shots no dribbles in fact no anything oh apart from being offside once which was 50% of the teams offsides.

Dembele and Paulinho looked a bit out of sorts but at least we have ready made replacements to step in so no panicking there.

Should have brought Lamela on and not Defoe....but we all have the benefit of hindsight. Tim Krul was excellent as Nads said.

Still....we are lacking a leader in the attack.....worrying at this time of the season.

Yup, quite right smokes, Soldado was pathetic... as they say in the bookies....."you've done your money"

[carmine]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

I do agree with you with regards the Eriksen cross. He should have been there and there was another very similar occasion against Everton.

This is a strange one because his success at Valancia was based on his goal poaching inside the box which is where he scored all his goals.

[carmine]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

How about these statistics

Excellent through ball 1

Dribble round keeper 1

Goals scored 1

Points total 3

The only stats that really mattered.

AVB doesn't seem to have the bottle to play Lamela, so that's money wasted.

Soldado is not the real deal IMO, so that too is money wasted.

Whose decision was it to bring these two in Baldini's or AVB's?

With all due respect Ups, you really are talking a load of <deleted> this morning.

[Chicog]

You have specialised in it this year. Dortmund had a go at it on Wednesday night too!

No they didn't, Arsenal edged the possession in that game.

[uptheos]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

I do agree with you with regards the Eriksen cross. He should have been there and there was another very similar occasion against Everton.

This is a strange one because his success at Valancia was based on his goal poaching inside the box which is where he scored all his goals.

I don't understand Spurs opting for him, when they could have got Benteke at the same price before he signed a contract with Villa. At least Benteke can run at a defence, this guy just patrols the penalty box looking lost and does nothing outside the box either. A waste of money.

[carmine]

100% agree with you about Benteke. i said that from the start and Levy messed up hugely not getting him. He's an ideal striker for us, aswell as being young with great potential sell on value which i thought would have appealed to Levy.

Yes, that was one massive <deleted> up.

[carmine]

If Defoe rescues it there will be some humble pie to choke on for a few I fancy.

In the real world that was never going to happen was it.

[uptheos]

100% agree with you about Benteke. i said that from the start and Levy messed up hugely not getting him. He's an ideal striker for us, aswell as being young with great potential sell on value which i thought would have appealed to Levy.

Yes, that was one massive <deleted> up.

I look at the domination Spurs had yesterday and could only wonder if you had someone like Benteke instead of Soldado what the score would have been and to be fair regarding yesterday's game, it's rare to see so many great saves from close range and you just can't legislate for a keeper playing like that. Townsend is good, but they've twigged him and when he gets the ball two or three are around him on his left side, which reduces his effectiveness. Like you I am completely mystified by the continued absence of Lamela, if he doesn't feel he's good enough for the EPL then he shouldn't have bought him and I wonder why Roma, who are now flying in serie A let him go anyway?

[uptheos]

If Defoe rescues it there will be some humble pie to choke on for a few I fancy.

In the real world that was never going to happen was it.

As a neutral with no axe to grind with Defoe, I'd play him ahead of Soldado right now.

Where's Adebayor, still on holiday?

[carmine]

If Defoe rescues it there will be some humble pie to choke on for a few I fancy.

In the real world that was never going to happen was it.

As a neutral with no axe to grind with Defoe, I'd play him ahead of Soldado right now.

Where's Adebayor, still on holiday?

I would play Adebayor if it were possible. There seems to be some sort of gagging order on mentioning anything related to him or his whereabouts. Ridiculous situation which needs to be sorted out for the good of the club

[alfieconn]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

YB, the way most teams are setting out nowadays with one forward is the reason that there is a general lack of supply, thus forwards being out of the game and not getting too many chances.

If your going to judge players on how many shots they get on target then your going to have to have a moan at every forward in the premiership apart from Suarez.

Soldado actually had 2 chances on target one more than Sturridge but i don't hear you having a pop at him or any other forward !

So shots on target over the weekend :

Suarez 3

Sturrifdge 1 (with 2 forwards )

Berbatov 1

van persie 1

Giroud 0

Etoo 2

Long 1

Benteke 1

Lukaku 0

Fletcher 0

Negredo 0

so judging by that Soldado actually done ok and if anyone wants to show me a forward with vastly better stats at the weekend than Soldado then please do so.

Edited November 11, 2013 by alfieconn

[alfieconn]

If Defoe rescues it there will be some humble pie to choke on for a few I fancy.

In the real world that was never going to happen was it.

As a neutral with no axe to grind with Defoe, I'd play him ahead of Soldado right now.

Where's Adebayor, still on holiday?

Why would that be ups ? the last time he played in the league was he any better than Soldado was saturday ?

Edited November 11, 2013 by alfieconn

[YoungBrit]

I agree as others have said like Carms once they start going in you will blow teams away however your lack of goals must be slightly worrying. You have a 27million striker who did get service yesterday and didn't hit the target enough.

Only the bottom 3 have scored left goals than you.

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

YB, the way most teams are setting out nowadays with one forward is the reason that there is a general lack of supply, thus forwards being out of the game and not getting too many chances.

If your going to judge players on how many shots they get on target then your going to have to have a moan at every forward in the premiership apart from Suarez.

Soldado actually had 2 chances on target one more than Sturridge but i don't hear you having a pop at him or any other forward !

So shots on target over the weekend :

Suarez 3

Sturrifdge 1 (with 2 forwards )

Berbatov 1

van persie 1

Giroud 0

Etoo 2

Long 1

Benteke 1

Lukaku 0

Fletcher 0

Negredo 0

so judging by that Soldado actually done ok and if anyone wants to show me a forward with vastly better stats at the weekend than Soldado then please do so.

I actually think I have been fairly supportive of Soldado, this is the first time I have raised the point and all I said was for me the jury was still out. I agreed he hadn't had the best service in previous games etc and I was merely making the point that yesterday he should have been doing better. If your happy for your 27million pound striker to do 'ok' in terms of shots on target I would be a little surprised.

Granted Sturridge was quiet this weekend but I think it would show a lack of footballing knowledge to have a pop at him for a number of reasons, hes joint top scorer with 8 in 11, his all round play this year has been very good and we didn't pay 27million for him.

The only strikers on that list that were bought for over 20mill are Suarez, Van Persie and Negrado and yes the jury is still out for me on Negrado too.

YB

Edited November 11, 2013 by YoungBrit

[MrRed]

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

YB, the way most teams are setting out nowadays with one forward is the reason that there is a general lack of supply, thus forwards being out of the game and not getting too many chances.

If your going to judge players on how many shots they get on target then your going to have to have a moan at every forward in the premiership apart from Suarez.

Soldado actually had 2 chances on target one more than Sturridge but i don't hear you having a pop at him or any other forward !

So shots on target over the weekend :

Suarez 3

Sturrifdge 1 (with 2 forwards )

Berbatov 1

van persie 1

Giroud 0

Etoo 2

Long 1

Benteke 1

Lukaku 0

Fletcher 0

Negredo 0

so judging by that Soldado actually done ok and if anyone wants to show me a forward with vastly better stats at the weekend than Soldado then please do so.

The bottom line is scoring goals that is the stat that matters.

Van Persie scored with his attempt at goal in my book that is superior than Soldado's you can get wrapped up in stats mate but they don't disguise the fact he is crap.

[chonabot]

How things change eh boys......just a couple of weeks ago you was saying take a look at the table Moyse is crap and United are in decline blah blah blah ....

The truth is you are crap and AVB will be lucky to last the season

Hang on, is it May already...?...Oh no it's November and we've got another dreamer on our/my thread.....jog on lad

Edited November 11, 2013 by chonabot

[uptheos]

If Defoe rescues it there will be some humble pie to choke on for a few I fancy.

In the real world that was never going to happen was it.

As a neutral with no axe to grind with Defoe, I'd play him ahead of Soldado right now.

Where's Adebayor, still on holiday?

Why would that be ups ? the last time he played in the league was he any better than Soldado was saturday ?

I think he's sharper than Soldado and more of a threat in the box, but as I said I have no axe to grind with Defoe.

Pleeease no stats.

[uptheos]

Moral of the story is: thank god for penalties!!!

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

YB, the way most teams are setting out nowadays with one forward is the reason that there is a general lack of supply, thus forwards being out of the game and not getting too many chances.

If your going to judge players on how many shots they get on target then your going to have to have a moan at every forward in the premiership apart from Suarez.

Soldado actually had 2 chances on target one more than Sturridge but i don't hear you having a pop at him or any other forward !

So shots on target over the weekend :

Suarez 3

Sturrifdge 1 (with 2 forwards )

Berbatov 1

van persie 1

Giroud 0

Etoo 2

Long 1

Benteke 1

Lukaku 0

Fletcher 0

Negredo 0

so judging by that Soldado actually done ok and if anyone wants to show me a forward with vastly better stats at the weekend than Soldado then please do so.

The bottom line is scoring goals that is the stat that matters.

Van Persie scored with his attempt at goal in my book that is superior than Soldado's you can get wrapped up in stats mate but they don't disguise the fact he is crap.

No team's owners or supporters want to think they sold their finest player and goalscorer and then spent 2/3 of the money on inferior replacements. I have no idea how Lamela will turn out, something tells me he'll be back in Italy or somewhere else in January, sold at a loss. Regarding Soldado, he hasn't done it for me, doesn't look the part, can't head a ball and looks completely lost in whatever tactical role AVB is supposed to be playing him in. I hope my judgement of him is wrong, but I think it won't be long before he's just another bench player.

[carmine]

Ups, were eleven games into the season. Just thought you needed to be reminded

[uptheos]

Ups, were eleven games into the season. Just thought you needed to be reminded

No reminders necessary carmine, I watch whatever I can and after 11 games I think it's not unreasonable to make some observations. I think if I asked you who has impressed you in the league after 11 games you could give me a few names. Likewise, it's fair enough to say who hasn't impressed. As this is the Spurs thread I'm not going to say anything negative about Fellaini.

[alfieconn]

It was a funny old game! 65% possession and 31 goal attempts. We created a lot and were thwarted by some brilliant goalkeeping.

However, Sigurdsson was anonymous and a hard fact to swallow is that he and Townsend failed to complete a single pass to Soldado. I feel sorry for the guy, its not his fault.

We should imho started with Lamela right, Townsend left. It was obvious that a change was needed at half time but AVB didn't do it. Why?

Theres been a lot of crap posted on here in the aftermath of that defeat but i am very relaxed about things, happy with much of that display but i just don't understand why he's not playing Lamela. This is really starting to irritate me. Nearly as much as Townsends wastage!

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

I do agree with you with regards the Eriksen cross. He should have been there and there was another very similar occasion against Everton.

This is a strange one because his success at Valancia was based on his goal poaching inside the box which is where he scored all his goals.

I don't understand Spurs opting for him, when they could have got Benteke at the same price before he signed a contract with Villa. At least Benteke can run at a defence, this guy just patrols the penalty box looking lost and does nothing outside the box either. A waste of money.

Thats a new one on me

[alfieconn]

Some fair points as always Carms but I would like to raise a few points. Firstly a lot of possession and shots (as you say 31) and the keeper was absolutely superb, especially 2nd half. Just over half of those shots were outside the box.

Anyway I think in previous games you have stated that Soldado didn't get the service and I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target? I also remember an absolutely superb cross from Erikson first half that he should have at least been a lot closer too. I think in games past you have defended him and rightly so, however yesterday I think you have to be a bit critical. I hope for your sake (not mine) he comes good but for me the jury is still out.

YB

YB, the way most teams are setting out nowadays with one forward is the reason that there is a general lack of supply, thus forwards being out of the game and not getting too many chances.

If your going to judge players on how many shots they get on target then your going to have to have a moan at every forward in the premiership apart from Suarez.

Soldado actually had 2 chances on target one more than Sturridge but i don't hear you having a pop at him or any other forward !

So shots on target over the weekend :

Suarez 3

Sturrifdge 1 (with 2 forwards )

Berbatov 1

van persie 1

Giroud 0

Etoo 2

Long 1

Benteke 1

Lukaku 0

Fletcher 0

Negredo 0

so judging by that Soldado actually done ok and if anyone wants to show me a forward with vastly better stats at the weekend than Soldado then please do so.

I actually think I have been fairly supportive of Soldado, this is the first time I have raised the point and all I said was for me the jury was still out. I agreed he hadn't had the best service in previous games etc and I was merely making the point that yesterday he should have been doing better. If your happy for your 27million pound striker to do 'ok' in terms of shots on target I would be a little surprised.

Granted Sturridge was quiet this weekend but I think it would show a lack of footballing knowledge to have a pop at him for a number of reasons, hes joint top scorer with 8 in 11, his all round play this year has been very good and we didn't pay 27million for him.

The only strikers on that list that were bought for over 20mill are Suarez, Van Persie and Negrado and yes the jury is still out for me on Negrado too.

YB

Sorry, from what you said here

I agree however yesterday he did. It may not have been from Sigurdsson and Townsend but he had 5 shots and correct me if I am wrong only one on target?

i thought you was talking specificly about yesterdays game, thats why i compared it with Sturridge on saturdays game !!!!

[uptheos]

I don't understand Spurs opting for him, when they could have got Benteke at the same price before he signed a contract with Villa. At least Benteke can run at a defence, this guy just patrols the penalty box looking lost and does nothing outside the box either. A waste of money.

Thats a new one on me

Huh?

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/tottenham-plan-%C2%A328m-offer-for-aston-villa-star-christian-benteke.103270/page-2

Re-igniting their interest doesn't say much for Soldado does it?

Paul Lambert will be able to stick to his guns and demand not a penny less than the £25m valuation that Villa have put on the player. The question then becomes whether he's worth such a fee.

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tottenham/id/998?cc=4716

Edited November 11, 2013 by uptheos

[alfieconn]

AVB certainly needs to earn his money here at half time! The way your defending, playing the offside trap, with Remy's pace and Cabaye vision and ability to pass I can see you needing to score 3 to win this game.

We weren't playing the offside trap

[Chicog]

That Loic Remy would have been a better bet than Benteke. He's looking quite the composed striker at the moment.

And that Paulinho, didn't he bottle that tackle that led to the goal, I was quite surprised.

[carmine]

That Loic Remy would have been a better bet than Benteke. He's looking quite the composed striker at the moment.

And that Paulinho, didn't he bottle that tackle that led to the goal, I was quite surprised.

Loic Remy over Benteke!! Are you having a laugh!! Its too early in the day to be on the sauce mate.

I suppose you also thought Sandro had a bad game right?

[carmine]

I don't understand Spurs opting for him, when they could have got Benteke at the same price before he signed a contract with Villa. At least Benteke can run at a defence, this guy just patrols the penalty box looking lost and does nothing outside the box either. A waste of money.

Thats a new one on me

Huh?

http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/index.php?threads/tottenham-plan-%C2%A328m-offer-for-aston-villa-star-christian-benteke.103270/page-2

Re-igniting their interest doesn't say much for Soldado does it?

Paul Lambert will be able to stick to his guns and demand not a penny less than the £25m valuation that Villa have put on the player. The question then becomes whether he's worth such a fee.

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/tottenham/id/998?cc=4716

What it says Ups is that Adebayor isn't going to play for us again and Defoe is 30yo, not very good and still worth something if we sell him soon. Were also in four competitions and need back up.

You're a little off the pace today methinks!

Edited November 11, 2013 by carmine