Bakseeda Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 "Yannawa police later sought court warrant for their arrest which was granted last week." And..... a. the men were arrested b. the men were requested to turn themselves in c. the men were last seen at the Malaysian border d. a reenactment of the transfer of a brick of cash worth 1 million baht is being staged tomorrow e. a red shirt leader known as "El Guapo" is being questioned about ties to the Japanese businessman In the time-space continuum of Thai law enforcement, everything is possible, simultaneously. where did the red shirt leader come from????? Chang Mai or Issan I would guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camo007 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 This happened to me a few years back as i posted here before. The investigation into it was a scam in its self and the police involved still have there jobs. I also refused and my staff and i demanded to be arrested and taken to the Police Station. They tried to arrange a corrupt station to take us but the law requires them to take is to the local station that we already know. The police doing this are often from outside the area and so don't want to go to the Police station. I strongly suggest if this happens to you that you immediately demand to go to the station. The warrant was fake they used to enter my office and that's why they would not give me a copy of it. Advice I was given was to install cameras and after doing that have never seen any police ever again. Further the local police now know me and know I don't play games and am not interested in any donations and have no need to do such. The fact is most in the police dont get involved in such things as they all fear Youtube and have seen recently many police get busted and lost everything. My suggestions are as follows: 1: Police without uniform not welcome unless they have an appointment. Dont open the door! 2: Make cameras very viable at home and Office as it works to deter criminals. 3: Dont pay anything. Let the charge you and try arrest you. Wrongful arrest here in Thailand is something that gets attention. Bail money in cash is going to be less then the money the police want. (Average THB 140k) 4: Pull out your phone and film them you have the legal right to do so as per statements by the chief of Police. Post to Youtube and have it posted on your Facebook. 5: if they arrest you demand to go to the police station. Demand the full names of all police involved and get your lawyer to go direct to the local Police station before you arrive to demand the law is followed and you come direct to your local station only. 6: Charges often dropped day of the first court hearing. They stretch it out to see if you will pay but they dont want the hearing. 7: Backup your computer as if they take it they will break it. I lost data and a server once taken illegally and just went t buy a new one next day and restore from cloud backups. Follow the law and if the police want to arrest you agree fully and say you will meet the at the Police station. Dont talk to the police at all and speak only to your lawyer, you cant talk your way out of it so dont try. Dont sign anything without your lawyer. Now you see why the local Police say some westerns know too much but i have been here running legal businesses for over 14 years and done nothing wrong. But as a successful businessman I have been the target of sharks more then once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ahhhh, yes, the outstanding reputation of the BIB on full display. Reminds me, back around ten years ago there was a drug trafficking gang led by a Border Police officer, seems to me he was only a Captain, but oddly the gang was operating in Bangkok. Anybody remember that case and whatever happened to it? My memory is that there were at least a dozen cops and a huge amount of drugs involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 "Yannawa police later sought court warrant for their arrest which was granted last week." And..... a. the men were arrested b. the men were requested to turn themselves in c. the men were last seen at the Malaysian border d. a reenactment of the transfer of a brick of cash worth 1 million baht is being staged tomorrow e. a red shirt leader known as "El Guapo" is being questioned about ties to the Japanese businessman In the time-space continuum of Thai law enforcement, everything is possible, simultaneously. where did the red shirt leader come from????? Chang Mai or Issan I would guess..... Further proof that some people will believe anything. This is El Guapo! Excellent background material on his red shirt activities here: http://quotesgram.com/el-guapo-three-amigos-quotes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaiChai Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Just did company training on Uk Corruption law today. On the basis of the UK law Thai police would be deemed corrupt by paying themselves a bonus for solving a crime. The money corrupts the process; if there was no money involved then justice would follow its natural course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Ahhhh, yes, the outstanding reputation of the BIB on full display. The same BIB charged them.....can't win no matter what they do? Edited September 30, 2015 by dotpoom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Two Cops Fired for Allegedly Extorting Japanese BusinessmanBy Khaosod EnglishPolice officers allegedly kidnapped 36-year-old Kikucho Masato earlier this month from his condominium near Sathorn Road in Bangkok. Photo: GoogleBANGKOK — Two police officers accused of kidnapping a Japanese businessman and demanding 3 million baht to free him have been sacked but remain on the loose, police confirmed today.Police Lt. Col. Pongthawat Kongsuea and Police Lt. Cpt. Kritpakorn Niamsorn were expelled from the Metropolitan Police Bureau yesterday, metro police commander Sriwarah Rangsipramnakul said, after the men failed to appear when summoned by their superiors.“They didn’t come to work. They didn’t show up to acknowledge their charges, so we fired them, in accordance with disciplinary regulations,” said Police Gen. Sriwarah. “Now that arrest warrants have been issued on them, police can arrest them anywhere they are found.”Both officers are accused of detaining 36-year-old Kikuchi Masato in his condominium in Bangkok’s Sathorn area on 5 Sept. and ordering him to pay 3 million baht in exchange for his freedom.Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1443611448&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-10-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 ...defenders of justice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Original piece said there were three police involved, did one get away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerrysum Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Is this how they get the money to pay themselves rewards and get on tv? Dunno, I guess image is everything.... Thailand is corrupt, any questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 keep shaking the tree I wonder how many more bad apples there are, it seems to me the whole police force are corrupt and the prime minister has a very big job on hands to eradicate it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 they were just looking for some sponsors to get higher up the pay scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 You can expect a lot more of these types of kidnapping and extortion types of crimes from the so called police. Their tea money income has been drastically cut and they will need to make it up somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Just did company training on Uk Corruption law today. On the basis of the UK law Thai police would be deemed corrupt by paying themselves a bonus for solving a crime. The money corrupts the process; if there was no money involved then justice would follow its natural course. without some sort of financial gain or favour, the natural course in Thailand is that the police would do nothing unless a) a tip-off leads them directly to the perpetrator of a crime social media shames them into finding a scapegoat to make the case solve itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangon04 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 keep shaking the tree I wonder how many more bad apples there are, it seems to me the whole police force are corrupt and the prime minister has a very big job on hands to eradicate it . so a logical deduction would be that a) he does not have the resources to do much about it OR it suits him to do little or nothing about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 ...defenders of justice.... Well I'm glad they got sacked for kiddnapping and extortion, I wonder what the GF's got for setting this up, but just goes to show that assisting people smuggling and taking bribes for assisting murdering bomb makers and the covering up of CCTV footage-- aiding and abbetting (non terrorist Uighurs) only deserves posting to inactive duty, now that's the best police force in the world!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 so we are still on the same old track.....I thought our PM promised something.....but that was just the other day......"who cares about the balderdash I spouted yesterday" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Officers extorting Japanese businessman face dismissalsBANGKOK: -- Pol Lt Gen Sriwara Rangsiphram-manakul, the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, confirmed that Pol Lt Col Pongthawat Kongsua, a general staff officer attached to the 6th Division of the Metropolitan Police Bureau and Pol Sgt Maj Wirasak Phaosu of the Phra Khanong police station have been dismissed from the positions as of September 21.They were dismissed for dereliction of duty and misconduct but as of the present their whereabouts are unknown as they have not reported to the Metropolitan Police Bureau to answer for allegations of abducting and extorting more than 1 million baht from a Japanese businessman, he said.The Bangkok Criminal Court had earlier issued warrants for the arrest of 3 police officers in the case.They are Pol Lt Col Pongthawat Kongsua, Pol Sgt Maj Wirasak Phaosu, and Pol Lt Kritpakorn Niemsorn, the deputy inspector of the Crime Suppression Division.Japanese businessman, Kigushi Masato, 36, owner of an entertainment venue in Silom area, had filed a complaint with the Yannawa police station that he was threatened by 3 policemen who accused his Thai wife of having engaged in drug.He was later escorted to a safehouse along with his Thai wife.The three officers then demanded three million baht to drop the case or they would charge the couple with narcotics possession.However the businessman could offer only one million baht and they agreed and freed them.He later filed complaint with Yannawa police.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/officers-extorting-japanese-businessman-face-dismissals -- Thai PBS 2015-10-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Traveller Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Was his wife involved in a drug ring or was that a false charge to facilitate the 'extortion' ? Take a guess Einstein.....would a real dealer then file a police complaint against the people he paid the bribe to make the charges disappear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Two Cops Fired for Allegedly Extorting Japanese Businessman By Khaosod English Police officers allegedly kidnapped 36-year-old Kikucho Masato earlier this month from his condominium near Sathorn Road in Bangkok. Photo: Google BANGKOK — Two police officers accused of kidnapping a Japanese businessman and demanding 3 million baht to free him have been sacked but remain on the loose, police confirmed today. Police Lt. Col. Pongthawat Kongsuea and Police Lt. Cpt. Kritpakorn Niamsorn were expelled from the Metropolitan Police Bureau yesterday, metro police commander Sriwarah Rangsipramnakul said, after the men failed to appear when summoned by their superiors. “They didn’t come to work. They didn’t show up to acknowledge their charges, so we fired them, in accordance with disciplinary regulations,” said Police Gen. Sriwarah. “Now that arrest warrants have been issued on them, police can arrest them anywhere they are found.” Both officers are accused of detaining 36-year-old Kikuchi Masato in his condominium in Bangkok’s Sathorn area on 5 Sept. and ordering him to pay 3 million baht in exchange for his freedom. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1443611448&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-10-01 " Now that arrest warrants have been issued police can arrest them anywhere they are found. " Yes but how hard will the BIB be looking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 keep shaking the tree I wonder how many more bad apples there are, it seems to me the whole police force are corrupt and the prime minister has a very big job on hands to eradicate it . Oh don't be so naive, you truly believe certain conscripts aren't at it either? What happened to that BP report on regular kidnapping in Bangkok by them? What happened to the army guys who kidnapped those Russians on Phuket? Reports of the guys in green getting in on the act are surfacing daily. The 'prime minister'. Pfft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american12bthai Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Two Cops Fired for Allegedly Extorting Japanese Businessman By Khaosod English Police officers allegedly kidnapped 36-year-old Kikucho Masato earlier this month from his condominium near Sathorn Road in Bangkok. Photo: Google BANGKOK — Two police officers accused of kidnapping a Japanese businessman and demanding 3 million baht to free him have been sacked but remain on the loose, police confirmed today. Police Lt. Col. Pongthawat Kongsuea and Police Lt. Cpt. Kritpakorn Niamsorn were expelled from the Metropolitan Police Bureau yesterday, metro police commander Sriwarah Rangsipramnakul said, after the men failed to appear when summoned by their superiors. “They didn’t come to work. They didn’t show up to acknowledge their charges, so we fired them, in accordance with disciplinary regulations,” said Police Gen. Sriwarah. “Now that arrest warrants have been issued on them, police can arrest them anywhere they are found.” Both officers are accused of detaining 36-year-old Kikuchi Masato in his condominium in Bangkok’s Sathorn area on 5 Sept. and ordering him to pay 3 million baht in exchange for his freedom. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1443611448&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-10-01 Is there a bounty on them? if i catch them do i get a reward or do the police get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajtom Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Only 3 son ??????????????????????? Hey what about the immigartion police exstorting anyone they <deleted> can.. There should be another 100 or so there son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Will this set a precedence I wonder? There must be loads of other businesses being extorted in the same way. Oh yes..............ask the owners of bars and entertainment venues here in Patong who comes round every month to collect the "tea money". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Regular day to day event for Thai police. Nothing new here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 The biggest problem in Thailand is bad politicians and most of all bad police! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Who said inactive desk jobs can't creat opportunities?? See the Pol Lt. Col prove it wrong, though he was a staff officer at headquarters he went using ( abusing) his power and got involved in extorting. Bravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Fired, ...........actually fired,............That has to be a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 There hiding out with the others that kidnapped the two Itailians some months back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Officers extorting Japanese businessman face dismissals BANGKOK: -- Pol Lt Gen Sriwara Rangsiphram-manakul, the commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Bureau, confirmed that Pol Lt Col Pongthawat Kongsua, a general staff officer attached to the 6th Division of the Metropolitan Police Bureau and Pol Sgt Maj Wirasak Phaosu of the Phra Khanong police station have been dismissed from the positions as of September 21. They were dismissed for dereliction of duty and misconduct but as of the present their whereabouts are unknown as they have not reported to the Metropolitan Police Bureau to answer for allegations of abducting and extorting more than 1 million baht from a Japanese businessman, he said. The Bangkok Criminal Court had earlier issued warrants for the arrest of 3 police officers in the case. They are Pol Lt Col Pongthawat Kongsua, Pol Sgt Maj Wirasak Phaosu, and Pol Lt Kritpakorn Niemsorn, the deputy inspector of the Crime Suppression Division. Japanese businessman, Kigushi Masato, 36, owner of an entertainment venue in Silom area, had filed a complaint with the Yannawa police station that he was threatened by 3 policemen who accused his Thai wife of having engaged in drug. He was later escorted to a safehouse along with his Thai wife. The three officers then demanded three million baht to drop the case or they would charge the couple with narcotics possession. However the businessman could offer only one million baht and they agreed and freed them. He later filed complaint with Yannawa police. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/officers-extorting-japanese-businessman-face-dismissals -- Thai PBS 2015-10-01 Look the first guy on the pic even has a half litre of German beer to drink. He can't be bothered by all those camera's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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