webfact Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Fatal Road Accident in JomtienPATTAYA: -- On Sunday afternoon a motorbike driver was killed after his bike collided with a fast-moving Minivan, which is suspected of jumping a red traffic light. The driver of the minivan ran away from the scene before authorities arrived.The crash occurred at the Chayapreuk intersection with the Sukhumvit Road at just before 2pm on Sunday and resulted in the death of Khun Wutipat aged 29 who was crossing the Sukhumvit Road from Soi Chaypreuk 2 to Soi Chayapreuk 1 and was travelling towards Jomtien Beach.A fast-moving Minivan Taxi, which was travelling from Bangkok to Sattahip appears to have jumped a red traffic light and struck the motorbike side-on, throwing the bike driver onto the pavement. He was declared dead-at-the-scene.Full story: http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/219580/fatal-road-accident-in-jomtien/#prettyPhoto-- Pattaya One 2015-12-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I wonder if there were passengers in the minibus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 These mini vans go in the very far left lane, which is normally used by those turning left. They jump the light to get ahead of the traffic. It's tough right there as lots of scooters turn left on Suk also, many never even look to see if there is traffic. I came close to nailing one yesterday. Pulled right onto Suk and never looked to see if it was clear. RIP to this young man. They should lock up the van driver for many years, especially for leaving the scene of an accident. Coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 This needs to become another priority action in Thailand, catching those who jump red lights. Minibuses, coaches, trucks, motorcycles, whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamplaimattlad Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I wonder if there were passengers in the minibus Why ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I wonder if there were passengers in the minibus Why ?? Because 1) In a society with the rule of law, they would function as an excellent source of witness testimony for the police. 2) It would be interesting to hear their comments as they were whisked away from the scene of an accident in which someone was killed by the alleged killer. 3) People would like to know if they still had to pay their fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzi850m2 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Those mini van goes like a rocket, I just can't understand a speed limiter is mandatory to have fitted (say 100km/h) in those mini vans. Even when riding my big bike they sometimes overtakes me when I find it too risky riding too fast, but those idiot drivers are so busy getting from A to B that they don't care, money comes fist. Sad about the scooter rider, RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcusv Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Every time I be to Thai I see vans are a major issue. What are these drivers thinking ? The GP is in Monarco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) Every time I be to Thai I see vans are a major issue. What are these drivers thinking ? The GP is in Monarco You need to understand that these van routes are very profitable, do not require any technical expertise, controlled by powerful dark influences and robustly defended against commercial threats. Typically they would be "owned" by a politician, senior military figure or senior policeman. They cannot be controlled by law enforcement. They tell the law enforcement what they can do. As might be expected, profitable enterprises operating outside the law do not employ shrinking violets or nice, polite, law-abiding citizens. They employ tough guys who can work as drivers and will do anything that their boss wants them to do. Edited December 7, 2015 by Briggsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 ... collided.....??? ...looks like he was sideswiped.....or ran into....or ran over ...did not stand a chance.... ...condolences to the family... ...get the scum murderer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Whatever became of that "crackdown" on crazed mini van drivers trumpeted a few months back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Many thai drivers believe they are entitled to run the red light for the simple reason that, when the lights turn green, there is a 1 minute delay while all the front drivers are admiring themselves in the mirror or popping zits, unaware of the lights change. Those drivers behind have been deprived of the chance to be on their merry way so think it is perfectly fair for a few to jump the red lights, often with disastrous results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocceao Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) I was doing a visa run one time, when the van driver ran a red light over taking a truck on the left, he hit a young lady who was parking her motocycle infront of a seven eleven. She was seriously injured and her face was cut to pieces( and would be scared for the rest of her life). the women in the van were screaming in shock. The van driver tried to make a run for it, we grabbed him, he tried to fight us but two big swedes held him until the police came. When he gave his side of the story, he claimed it was everyone eles fault and wouldn't accept any wrong doing, no remorse what so ever, he even tried to have us charged with assault. Edited December 7, 2015 by Rocceao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 I really hate to see all these useless deaths. I am so tired of hearing or using the term Life is cheap here. Very sad event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfish Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Time for a crackdown Sent from my SC-01D using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Every time I be to Thai I see vans are a major issue. What are these drivers thinking ? The GP is in Monarco You need to understand that these van routes are very profitable, do not require any technical expertise, controlled by powerful dark influences and robustly defended against commercial threats. Typically they would be "owned" by a politician, senior military figure or senior policeman. They cannot be controlled by law enforcement. They tell the law enforcement what they can do. As might be expected, profitable enterprises operating outside the law do not employ shrinking violets or nice, polite, law-abiding citizens. They employ tough guys who can work as drivers and will do anything that their boss wants them to do. These tough guys seem to run away a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Back in the 1970s the government wanted to have all van,bus,and truck drivers to wear a blue type jump suit so when they had an accident they could be recognized running or hiding in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gintis0604 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 These mini vans go in the very far left lane, which is normally used by those turning left. They jump the light to get ahead of the traffic. It's tough right there as lots of scooters turn left on Suk also, many never even look to see if there is traffic. I came close to nailing one yesterday. Pulled right onto Suk and never looked to see if it was clear. RIP to this young man. They should lock up the van driver for many years, especially for leaving the scene of an accident. Coward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiteboy57 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) My girlfriend was knocked off her motorbike over the weekend when stationary waiting at a set of lights, some idiot went through the red light, cut the corner and hit her whilst she was waiting for her lights to go green. There was a police guy at the corner and saw what happened, he blew his whistle at the car who carried on driving, no chase was given nor even a number taken. He did help her up and put back the mirror that had been knocked off, which was something I guess. In my youth I used to race motocross all over the UK and have driven cars in many countries, but nowhere compares with the complete disregard to other fellow motorists than in this selfish country, where Thais seem to think they are THE only person on the road and everyone else, as they HAVE to get to wherever they may be going, in the quickest time possible, only to then sit on their ass and eat or sleep for the few extra seconds/minutes they may have saved by driving/riding like a lunatic. You really have to expect the unexpected in Thailand and them some, in order to try and keep safe, and even then that might not be enough! KB Edited December 7, 2015 by Kiteboy57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gintis0604 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Every day many cars jump the red light there. Why don't the police in the police box there wake up? If they used cameras at all traffic lights with a fine 1000 baht,the city would make a million a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 The Thai Drivers mantra ME FIRST ,ME FIRST ME FIRST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew65 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Every time I be to Thai I see vans are a major issue. What are these drivers thinking ? The GP is in Monarco You need to understand that these van routes are very profitable, do not require any technical expertise, controlled by powerful dark influences and robustly defended against commercial threats. Typically they would be "owned" by a politician, senior military figure or senior policeman. They cannot be controlled by law enforcement. They tell the law enforcement what they can do. As might be expected, profitable enterprises operating outside the law do not employ shrinking violets or nice, polite, law-abiding citizens. They employ tough guys who can work as drivers and will do anything that their boss wants them to do. These tough guys seem to run away a lot! They do, but in these parts of the world there's a high possibility of being lynched at the roadsde by a baying-mob. Also, the Thai's fear of confrontation anyway. I always kept this in mind when working in Africa, in the eventuality of an RTA. RIP to the dead guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDbkh Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Every time I be to Thai I see vans are a major issue. What are these drivers thinking ? The GP is in Monarco You need to understand that these van routes are very profitable, do not require any technical expertise, controlled by powerful dark influences and robustly defended against commercial threats. Typically they would be "owned" by a politician, senior military figure or senior policeman. They cannot be controlled by law enforcement. They tell the law enforcement what they can do. As might be expected, profitable enterprises operating outside the law do not employ shrinking violets or nice, polite, law-abiding citizens. They employ tough guys who can work as drivers and will do anything that their boss wants them to do. I hear that many of these 'drivers' use yabaa to keep them awake - as you say they work in a dangerous lawless business which has little concern for the passengers or public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 (edited) To me, one of the biggest problems is that you have "cops" that have no idea of what it means to be a cop. Traffic laws? They don't know them, and don't bother to enforce the ones they do know. Actually stopping someone for speeding? Never happens. Actually stopping someone for reckless driving? Never happens. Actually going after someone who ran a red light? Never happens. Setting up checkpoints to collect tea money (bribes) for people not wearing helmets. Hey, a good days work. Fire the entire lot of them, let the Army handle for a while (they couldn't do any worse), then bring in PROFESSIONALS from Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, hire all new candidates and train them the right way, and instill a sense of pride in them. Only then will Thailand have an actual Police Force instead of lazy bums in brown. Edited December 7, 2015 by Just1Voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbreath Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Whatever became of that "crackdown" on crazed mini van drivers trumpeted a few months back? Like all "crackdowns" in Thailand it's just window dressing. Appearances are everything and reality is to be denied. I believe the Thai phrase is "phut maak tam noi". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 These mini vans go in the very far left lane, which is normally used by those turning left. They jump the light to get ahead of the traffic. It's tough right there as lots of scooters turn left on Suk also, many never even look to see if there is traffic. I came close to nailing one yesterday. Pulled right onto Suk and never looked to see if it was clear. RIP to this young man. They should lock up the van driver for many years, especially for leaving the scene of an accident. Coward. What makes it even worse is the double parkers at the 7-11 or Family Mart on the South bound corner. You basically have 4 lanes of traffic on Suk at that point , one lane to turn left, two lanes to go straight, and one lane to turn right or do a U turn. Once the light changes everyone moves to the right despite the lack of road stripes, so it is a free for all and if you are in the "straight" lanes you have to be aware of being passed on both the right and left I think that many times it is not the vans concern for traffic that is the reason to jump the light but to be the first to pick up new passengers on the South side of the intersection that is the motivation A simple red light camera and the loss of vans companies license would put a stop to this practice but will never happen because the van owners are well protected. Once again, don't blame only the drivers, it is the owners who encourage a system where the only way for a driver to make money is to violate the law and common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Whatever became of that "crackdown" on crazed mini van drivers trumpeted a few months back? Like all crackdowns, it came and went in a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 business as usual. As every day, ever week, every month aso. Anyway, poor guy (on the bike RIP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minikev Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 As soon as I read the headline I knew there would be a minivan involved. I watch in my mirror and immediately get well out of the way if I see one. They are crazy to get to the next pickup point before another minibus. Absolute disregard for any other road user or pedestrian or any road laws. Hitting and killing someone will have spoiled his bonus and that will have been his only consideration for the loss of a young life. The terribly sad truth is he will probably be back on the road shortly with a slap on the wrist and some of his salary taken to pay for the time loss and damage. He will have to drive faster to make up the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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