TM30 Experience

[Bill97]

There is a lot of info out there but anyone posting it could be in trouble as even the truth can be deemed defamation in Thailand plus pissing off those that have your fate in their hands is not the way to go.

But all the suggestions of improper behavior here are okay and not pissing them off?

[Thailand]

1 hour ago, Bill97 said:

But all the suggestions of improper behavior here are okay and not pissing them off?

No idea. You could ask them next time you are there perhaps?

[rawhod]

18 hours ago, NancyL said:

 

Go to the U.S. consulate for your Cert. of Res.  Mark my words, if you go to G4T, you'll find you have to pay 1600 baht fine for a "past due" TM30 before you can get your Cert of Res.  This on top of their 500 baht fee (ie. opps, I'm again self-censoring what that 500 baht fee really is),  Plus, you'll have to make two trips to Promenada.  If you make an appointment with the U.S. Consulate you'll get a clean, honest $50 Cert. of Res. on the spot.  Don't feed the machine at  Imm. Promenada.  

 

I have said this before and I will say it again...

 

If you persist in this line of attack on immigration (again) it could result in them withdrawal the issuing of Certificates of Residence all together. It's OK for you Yanks who can go to your consulate in CM, but us Brits have now no consulate here. For me it would entail a return trip to Bangkok with a night stay over and a fee of 2300 baht  (£51). So give it a rest...

[Thailand]

30 minutes ago, rawhod said:

 

I have said this before and I will say it again...

 

If you persist in this line of attack on immigration (again) it could result in them withdrawal the issuing of Certificates of Residence all together. It's OK for you Yanks who can go to your consulate in CM, but us Brits have now no consulate here. For me it would entail a return trip to Bangkok with a night stay over and a fee of 2300 baht  (£51). So give it a rest...

Perhaps an agency could arrange it for you if that scenario occured?

[Genericnic]

20 hours ago, NancyL said:

 

Actually, when you apply for a new passport here in Chiang Mai, you usually receive an email to go pick it up in two weeks or less.  No extra charge for "expedited service".  The charges you quote are for application in the U.S. and, I believe include courier charges.  These are published charges, for which a receipt is issued.  Not the same thing as G4T, working out of an unmarked office which is shut down every time there's some official scrutiny with on-site visits from Bangkok about alleged problems with poor service at CM Immigration driving customers to using visa agents.

I've been using G4T for a couple of years now for extensions and such. Always received receipts for both their services and for immigration's fees paid. 

 

As for an unmarked office, the one downstairs is not well marked but the one on the 3rd floor (the one I go to) is well marked and easy to find. 

 

David

 

[Dipterocarp]

Promenada takes longer than Airport immigration did as they have three people processing one 

request. Plus a lot of scanning of docs and taking pictures with mobile phones. Overall a more pleasant

environment than "investigative division".  Going by Uber was wonderful.

[true blue]

22 hours ago, rawhod said:

 

I have said this before and I will say it again...

 

If you persist in this line of attack on immigration (again) it could result in them withdrawal the issuing of Certificates of Residence all together. It's OK for you Yanks who can go to your consulate in CM, but us Brits have now no consulate here. For me it would entail a return trip to Bangkok with a night stay over and a fee of 2300 baht  (£51). So give it a rest...

IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented

 

 

[NancyL]

5 hours ago, Genericnic said:

I've been using G4T for a couple of years now for extensions and such. Always received receipts for both their services and for immigration's fees paid. 

 

As for an unmarked office, the one downstairs is not well marked but the one on the 3rd floor (the one I go to) is well marked and easy to find. 

 

David

 

 

David -- think about it.  G4T is the only visa agency that can issue a Cert of Res.  Sure you're getting a receipt from them for that 500 baht, but not from Immigration.  Why is it that you can't go to another visa agent and get a Cert of Res?

 

As for G4T being well marked, do you call it well-marked for their office on the 2nd floor of Prom. to only have the name of their business on the front of the store and absolutely nothing that indicates the nature of their business?  In fact they still have the display cases from the previous tenant, a music store, with the brand names of musical instruments.    All the better to disguise the true nature of the business.  Note how Big Camera next door has a display out in the mall.  Most stores do.  Not G4T.  If you didn't know about them already, you wouldn't have a clue what they offered.

 

 

 

 

 

[Lizard2010]

12 minutes ago, true blue said:

IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented

 

 

Seeing you brought this up

Can you tell US All

Why Chiang Mai Immigration is doing things different to other Immigration offices

i think the about line says it all

Other offices work more proficiently the Chiang Mai

The person in charge is doing What he wants

As there is so may of us Expats here

It is just feeding the Gravy train

IMHO

[LivinLOS]

2 hours ago, true blue said:

IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented

 

 

 

 

Officers at airport immigration offices made it very clear this was a Junta down decision after the erawan shrine bombing. 

 

I suppose shes responsible for it happening in hua hin, pattaya, phuket, udon, etc is she ?? 

[Thailand]

2 hours ago, true blue said:

IMHO if she hadn't castigated imm so much in the past doubt if this tm30 thing would have ever been implemented

 

 

Being implemented all over Thailand, you seriously think this is because of Nancy's crusade? 

[Lizard2010]

3 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

 

 

Officers at airport immigration offices made it very clear this was a Junta down decision after the erawan shrine bombing. 

 

I suppose shes responsible for it happening in hua hin, pattaya, phuket, udon, etc is she ?? 

Can you provide evidence on this

If not!!!

[LivinLOS]

You mean the conversation between me and Capt Tissaporn ?? No of course not.. 

 

Please explain how Nancy influenced Samuis immigration in any way that shows an ounce of logic ?? 

[Lizard2010]

2 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

You mean the conversation between me and Capt Tissaporn ?? No of course not.. 

 

Please explain how Nancy influenced Samuis immigration in any way that shows an ounce of logic ?? 

So actually was going to tell you the truth

Well after all this is Thailand

[LivinLOS]

No answer on how in your mind Nancy has effected the entire countries immigration offices ??

[CMKiwi]

Although I may not necessarily agree with what is perceived as to the backing or support of G4S (Not that anyone on this forum really knows),  I have used them in the past to get a CoR.

 

At the end of the day I really don't give a rats about how they get the CoR as long as I get what I'm after.

 

In relation to going to a consulate being an honourable thing.... what a load of pants. Harping on about the payment of 500  baht for this 'service' whereas the US of A consulate charge US $50 for their letter is in my opinion a greater highway robbery of the two.

 

Sure Immigration decided a while ago that it would be free..... if you wait long enough and attend an appointment with immigration officials.  What a farcical load of bureaucratic nonsense that was. It didn't take long to resume the G4S service.

 

Rightly or wrongly I don't give 2 hoots as to how Chiang Mai immigration decide to do their business however if they somehow make it easier for me the I will use that option.

 

Ok rant over....

[evenstevens]

1 hour ago, CMKiwi said:

Although I may not necessarily agree with what is perceived as to the backing or support of G4S (Not that anyone on this forum really knows),  I have used them in the past to get a CoR.

 

At the end of the day I really don't give a rats about how they get the CoR as long as I get what I'm after.

 

In relation to going to a consulate being an honourable thing.... what a load of pants. Harping on about the payment of 500  baht for this 'service' whereas the US of A consulate charge US $50 for their letter is in my opinion a greater highway robbery of the two.

 

Sure Immigration decided a while ago that it would be free..... if you wait long enough and attend an appointment with immigration officials.  What a farcical load of bureaucratic nonsense that was. It didn't take long to resume the G4S service.

 

Rightly or wrongly I don't give 2 hoots as to how Chiang Mai immigration decide to do their business however if they somehow make it easier for me the I will use that option.

 

Ok rant over....

 

no rant at all.,  just plain common  sense has prevailed

most rank and file expats would agree, but

the do gooders just want to spoil our party

its a Lesley Gore good evening to all

Edited January 12, 2017 by evenstevens

[Dipterocarp]

16 hours ago, CMKiwi said:

Although I may not necessarily agree with what is perceived as to the backing or support of G4S (Not that anyone on this forum really knows),  I have used them in the past to get a CoR.

 

At the end of the day I really don't give a rats about how they get the CoR as long as I get what I'm after.

 

In relation to going to a consulate being an honourable thing.... what a load of pants. Harping on about the payment of 500  baht for this 'service' whereas the US of A consulate charge US $50 for their letter is in my opinion a greater highway robbery of the two.

 

Sure Immigration decided a while ago that it would be free..... if you wait long enough and attend an appointment with immigration officials.  What a farcical load of bureaucratic nonsense that was. It didn't take long to resume the G4S service.

 

Rightly or wrongly I don't give 2 hoots as to how Chiang Mai immigration decide to do their business however if they somehow make it easier for me the I will use that option.

 

Ok rant over....

Also appointments are required (only 2 days a week available) and with waiting and bag checks there us no way to get out under an hour. The Counsular officers and staff ARE the nicest people and most helpful. $50 sounds like a load of cash for a bit of paper but heard something about  services supposed to being largely self-funded by users. Some in government have no use for expats actually. I heard Brits get fleeced for more.

 

Edited January 13, 2017 by Dipterocarp

[rawhod]

6 minutes ago, Dipterocarp said:

 

The Consular officers and staff ARE the nicest people and most helpful 

 

 

And the most expensive. 

More-so if you have to travel to Bangkok and stay over. 

[rawhod]

1 hour ago, Dipterocarp said:

Also appointments are required (only 2 days a week available) and with waiting and bag checks there us no way to get out under an hour. The Counsular officers and staff ARE the nicest people and most helpful. $50 sounds like a load of cash for a bit of paper but heard something about  services supposed to being largely self-funded by users. Some in government have no use for expats actually. I heard Brits get fleeced for more.

 

 

Nice edit to get you out of the hole...LOL

[Dipterocarp]

No hole at all my post is accurate. I think I added to it on the fly no change of meaning. Pay B500 to Imm or $50 to US Consul Chiang Mai.

Glad I still have a choice, someday hope to get a Yellow Book but for now still not possible.

[rawhod]

3 minutes ago, Dipterocarp said:

No hole at all my post is accurate. I think I added to it on the fly no change of meaning. Pay B500 to Imm or $50 to US Consul Chiang Mai.

Glad I still have a choice, someday hope to get a Yellow Book but for now still not possible.

 

Ah Ah, now I understand. It didn't occur to me that you were initially referring to the USA consulate (me being a Brit).

Although my reply was " tongue in cheek", I'll climb out of my hole now.

 

"Yellow Book"...don't get me started, attempted to get one three times, and the local Kweng keeps changing his rules..

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[true blue]

22 hours ago, LivinLOS said:

No answer on how in your mind Nancy has effected the entire countries immigration offices ??

Because it started in Chiang Mai no were else then it boomerang around the country as a money spinner.they don't implement it in Bangkok.so judge for yourself

[NancyL]

19 minutes ago, true blue said:

Because it started in Chiang Mai no were else then it boomerang around the country as a money spinner.they don't implement it in Bangkok.so judge for yourself

Can you point to evidence that it started in Chiang Mai?  It really started after the Erawan bombing with several provinces with a high number of foreigners being targeted.

 

I think you give me W-A-Y too much credit.

[true blue]

10 minutes ago, NancyL said:

Can you point to evidence that it started in Chiang Mai?  It really started after the Erawan bombing with several provinces with a high number of foreigners being targeted.

 

I think you give me W-A-Y too much credit.

Is that why they banned you from promada immigration.

[Thailand]

14 minutes ago, true blue said:

Is that why they banned you from promada immigration.

How did she do her last reports/extensions if she is banned - G4T ?

[true blue]

30 minutes ago, Thailand said:

How did she do her last reports/extensions if she is banned - G4T ?

Was ask her.only warned off for interfering in every day business.

[NancyL]

Well, no technically I wasn't "interfering" but rather observing, at a distance, from public areas of the mall and reporting what I was seeing to the various Consuls and Embassies.  Plus all you kind folks on Thai Visa.com benefited from my reports.  (Who can forget my photos of those beautiful goats in the customer waiting area?  No really, real goats.)  I never "observed" or took photos inside the Immigration offices.

 

I was around the mall so much, that Prom. became a sponsor of CEC.  I guess I was spending so much on food and beverage that I became one of their best customers!

[true blue]

44 minutes ago, NancyL said:

Well, no technically I wasn't "interfering" but rather observing, at a distance, from public areas of the mall and reporting what I was seeing to the various Consuls and Embassies.  Plus all you kind folks on Thai Visa.com benefited from my reports.  (Who can forget my photos of those beautiful goats in the customer waiting area?  No really, real goats.)  I never "observed" or took photos inside the Immigration offices.

 

I was around the mall so much, that Prom. became a sponsor of CEC.  I guess I was spending so much on food and beverage that I became one of their best customers!

You trying to Kid me 

[evenstevens]

But  you conviently forget,Nancy L

that on this forum  you posted, calling for volounteers,  to be trained as observers , on day to day operations of the Immgr  Dept, etc etc

and in addition,  asked for any  video experts , who could  produce, under the cover of darkness, etc etc, and crazily, around around  the Bangkok bombing times

which I.M.O led to your ban etc etc and possibly a TM30 was  swung into action, due to your  lack of decorum towards C/Mai,s Immgr Dept etc etc

now presently you are on another mission impossible, bringing Promenada  G4T visa  agency , into disrepute,without a single,  scap of evidence to support your claims

now twist E/S post, around to your ideals

its a Chubby Checker , good evening to all