Re-entry permit on a non-immigrant OA? Valid after validity of the visa?

[khrai]

Hi,

I am on my first year of a Non-immigrant OA visa.

My visa dates are:

ISSUED 21 September 2015

ENTER BEFORE 20 September 2016

Permission to stay until 30 September 2016

I will be going on a short trip abroad next week, so when I re-enter Thailand, my new permission to stay will be until, let say, 28 February 2017 (right?)

On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2017 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?).

Is this at all possible?

This would mean that the re-entry permit is valid for over 6 months. Do these re-entry permits have a validity date? Could I maybe re-enter until Februari 2017.

Thanks for your replies.

[lopburi3]

Re-entry permit is valid until permitted to stay date so no problem - get the re-entry permit after you return from trip and use for the return after expiration of current O-A visa, but before permitted to stay date is reached to permit continued stay until that date.

[khrai]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

[elviajero]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

• Yes, you can keep your extension of stay until Feb 2017 with a re-entry permit. When you return in Oct 2016 the IO will use the permit and stamp you back in until Feb 2017.

[moe666]

Do you have a muliply entry O-A Visa as you do not say. If you do then your re-entry permit is ok, if you have a single then you have to leave and come back before it expires to get another 3 months.

[ubonjoe]

Do you have a muliply entry O-A Visa as you do not say. If you do then your re-entry permit is ok, if you have a single then you have to leave and come back before it expires to get another 3 months.

You are confusing non-oa visas with non-o visas. OA visas are all valid for a year and allow unlimited one year entries up to the date the visa expires.

[khrai]

Do you have a muliply entry O-A Visa as you do not say. If you do then your re-entry permit is ok, if you have a single then you have to leave and come back before it expires to get another 3 months.

Indeed, my OA is multiple entry (as are all OA's), but the entries are only valid within the (first year) of the visa.

[khrai]

Hi guys, everything went as expected.

I just re-entered Thailand from Cambodia on my Non-Immigrant OA. Got a permission to stay until 23th of February 2017.

Super. Now I can spend the "summers" in Europe and come back in Oktober to spend the "winters" in Thailand.

I just have to get a re-entry permit before I leave TH, and I must not forget to apply for an extension of stay every year in February.

Thanks for your answers.

[sunnyjim5]

Hi guys, everything went as expected.

I just re-entered Thailand from Cambodia on my Non-Immigrant OA. Got a permission to stay until 23th of February 2017.

Super. Now I can spend the "summers" in Europe and come back in Oktober to spend the "winters" in Thailand.

I just have to get a re-entry permit before I leave TH, and I must not forget to apply for an extension of stay every year in February.

Thanks for your answers.

Ocktober ? Must be from Sweden

[OJAS]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

• Yes, you can keep your extension of stay until Feb 2017 with a re-entry permit. When you return in Oct 2016 the IO will use the permit and stamp you back in until Feb 2017.

But if I have understood the OP correctly his non-OA visa will expire on 20 September 2016. So if he was not planning to re-enter until October 2016, which is after the visa expiry date, he would merely be stamped in for 30 days. As a result he would have to start all over again with a fresh non-OA visa (only obtainable from the Royal Thai Embassy in London in his case) or a single-entry non-O visa obtainable from Vientiane or Penang.

In this connection, I am not sure how a re-entry permit would be likely to make any difference in practice - assuming, of course, that he could obtain one in the first place (which does not strike me as a given in his situation).

Not to mention that he would run the risk of being denied boarding his return flight from the UK unless he could provide evidence of a flight booking out of Thailand within these 30 days.

So what he would be really strongly advised to do IMHO would be to re-enter Thailand on or before 20 September 2016. In that way he would then receive a fresh permission of stay until September 2017.

[sunnyjim5]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

• Yes, you can keep your extension of stay until Feb 2017 with a re-entry permit. When you return in Oct 2016 the IO will use the permit and stamp you back in until Feb 2017.

But if I have understood the OP correctly his non-OA visa will expire on 20 September 2016. So if he was not planning to re-enter until October 2016, which is after the visa expiry date, he would merely be stamped in for 30 days, re-entry permit or no re-entry permit. As a result he would have to start all over again with a fresh non-OA visa (only obtainable from the Royal Thai Embassy in London in his case) or a single-entry non-O visa obtainable from Vientiane or Penang.

Not to mention that he would run the risk of being denied boarding his return flight from the UK unless he could provide evidence of a flight booking out of Thailand within these 30 days.

So what he really needs to do in practice is to re-enter Thailand on or before 20 September 2016. In that way he will then receive a fresh permission of stay until September 2017.

The OP has permission to stay until Feb 2017. With a re-entry permit he can return and be "stamped in" until Feb 2017 even if the visa has expired!

If the OP wishes to stay beyond Feb 2017 he can apply for an extension of stay.

My visa expired many years ago if I wish to travel abroad I do so, easily, returning to use a re-entry permit !

[OJAS]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

• Yes, you can keep your extension of stay until Feb 2017 with a re-entry permit. When you return in Oct 2016 the IO will use the permit and stamp you back in until Feb 2017.

But if I have understood the OP correctly his non-OA visa will expire on 20 September 2016. So if he was not planning to re-enter until October 2016, which is after the visa expiry date, he would merely be stamped in for 30 days, re-entry permit or no re-entry permit. As a result he would have to start all over again with a fresh non-OA visa (only obtainable from the Royal Thai Embassy in London in his case) or a single-entry non-O visa obtainable from Vientiane or Penang.

Not to mention that he would run the risk of being denied boarding his return flight from the UK unless he could provide evidence of a flight booking out of Thailand within these 30 days.

So what he really needs to do in practice is to re-enter Thailand on or before 20 September 2016. In that way he will then receive a fresh permission of stay until September 2017.

The OP has permission to stay until Feb 2017. With a re-entry permit he can return and be "stamped in" until Feb 2017 even if the visa has expired!

If the OP wishes to stay beyond Feb 2017 he can apply for an extension of stay.

My visa expired many years ago if I wish to travel abroad I do so, easily, returning to use a re-entry permit !

Well, if he wants to waste 7 months of his OA visa for the sake of an extra 10 days to a fortnight in the UK, that is his business, of course!

[kraxlhuber]

I have a Non-O , Multible entrance visa, obtained in Germany at the Thai consulate on 04.09 2014. Says enter before 03.09.2015.

Stamped by the immigration upon returning 15 Dec. 2014 to Thailand at Suvarniphum airport permit to stay for 3 months.

On the 24 Febr. 2015 I got a permit to stay by the immigration in Mae Sai and a M re-entry permit valid 14 March 2016.

I did not leave Thailand during 2015 and first 2 months of 2016.

I did my 90 days reports by mail and got my last permit to stay extendet until April 10 2016.

I am a bit confused

My last 90 day report and extension of stay was on 06 February 2016,and a re-entry permit issued on the same day.

I do sofar not intend to leave Thailand for a short period soon, but need a re entry visa anyhow, just to have it, in case.

Should I obtain a new retirement visa/ permit to stay before March 14 2016 with all the papers and copys and a new Re-entry permit ?? Or will the original Non-O be extendet again for 1year with the proof of bank deposit and in my case the letter from my embassy proof of income, pension deposited in my bank account in Germany monthly about 25.000 Baht (valid for 6 months) issued in January 2016 , I withdraw money here in Thailand by ATM or got money from my savings account in Singapore also by ATM.

I must show now a bankdeposit in the Thai bank for at least 3 months, about 450.000 Baht and the letter of income in Germany, of 25.000x 12 months combined proof of money is 800.000.- Baht

Please advise

[sunnyjim5]

Visas are never "extended" and 90 day reports are nothing to do with permission to stay.

If your current "extension of stay, based on retirement" expires in April 2016 you should renew it during March. You will need your financial evidence.

Re-entry permits are dated to match the current permission to stay date provided by your extension. You will need a new one after your extension of stay has been renewed.

[ubonjoe]

A 90 day report is not an extension.

Not sure how or why you got a re-entry permit on the 6th of February unless you applied for a new one year extension of stay on that day also.

What date is on your most recent extension of stay stamp. I think it says March 14, 2017.

[khrai]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

• Yes, you can keep your extension of stay until Feb 2017 with a re-entry permit. When you return in Oct 2016 the IO will use the permit and stamp you back in until Feb 2017.

But if I have understood the OP correctly his non-OA visa will expire on 20 September 2016. So if he was not planning to re-enter until October 2016, which is after the visa expiry date, he would merely be stamped in for 30 days. As a result he would have to start all over again with a fresh non-OA visa (only obtainable from the Royal Thai Embassy in London in his case) or a single-entry non-O visa obtainable from Vientiane or Penang.

In this connection, I am not sure how a re-entry permit would be likely to make any difference in practice - assuming, of course, that he could obtain one in the first place (which does not strike me as a given in his situation).

Not to mention that he would run the risk of being denied boarding his return flight from the UK unless he could provide evidence of a flight booking out of Thailand within these 30 days.

So what he would be really strongly advised to do IMHO would be to re-enter Thailand on or before 20 September 2016. In that way he would then receive a fresh permission of stay until September 2017.

OP here. Thanks for your answer, but I find your remarks a bit confusing.

I am aware that my visa expires in September, and that by postponing my re-entry until October my visa will have expired. But I don't see this as being a problem because I will be able to enter Thailand on my re-entry permit (still to obtain!) until the end of my current permission to stay (February 2017). I will at that time apply for an one year extension, and so on for every year in the future.

This was precisely my goal: not to be forced to come back to Thailand every year in September.

Which brings me to my question to you: why do you doubt the possibility of getting a re-entry visa in this case?

Thanks.

[TheAppletons]

Sorry, correction of a date in my question (cannot seem to edit anymore):

"On 30/03/2016 I will go back to Europe for the summer. I would want to re-enter Thailand on somewhere in Oktober 2016 (after the validity date of my visa), so I'll need a re-entry permit to keep my permission to stay until 28 February 2017 (right?)."

Thanks for your reply Lopburi.

• Yes, you can keep your extension of stay until Feb 2017 with a re-entry permit. When you return in Oct 2016 the IO will use the permit and stamp you back in until Feb 2017.

But if I have understood the OP correctly his non-OA visa will expire on 20 September 2016. So if he was not planning to re-enter until October 2016, which is after the visa expiry date, he would merely be stamped in for 30 days. As a result he would have to start all over again with a fresh non-OA visa (only obtainable from the Royal Thai Embassy in London in his case) or a single-entry non-O visa obtainable from Vientiane or Penang.

In this connection, I am not sure how a re-entry permit would be likely to make any difference in practice - assuming, of course, that he could obtain one in the first place (which does not strike me as a given in his situation).

Not to mention that he would run the risk of being denied boarding his return flight from the UK unless he could provide evidence of a flight booking out of Thailand within these 30 days.

So what he would be really strongly advised to do IMHO would be to re-enter Thailand on or before 20 September 2016. In that way he would then receive a fresh permission of stay until September 2017.

OP here. Thanks for your answer, but I find your remarks a bit confusing.

I am aware that my visa expires in September, and that by postponing my re-entry until October my visa will have expired. But I don't see this as being a problem because I will be able to enter Thailand on my re-entry permit (still to obtain!) until the end of my current permission to stay (February 2017). I will at that time apply for an one year extension, and so on for every year in the future.

This was precisely my goal: not to be forced to come back to Thailand every year in September.

Which brings me to my question to you: why do you doubt the possibility of getting a re-entry visa in this case?

Thanks.

He's confusing the expiration of the visa (Sep 2016) with the end of your current permission to stay (Feb 2017). Sounds to me as if you are good to go with a re-entry permit.