webfact Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 U.S. Sex Offenders Challenge New Passport LawSAN FRANCISCO – A civil rights group has filed a lawsuit challenging a law that will require sex offenders to be identified on their passports.President Obama signed the International Megan’s Law bill into law on Monday following Congress passing the bill last week. The California Reform Sex Offender Laws filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, challenging the laws, which requires the Secretary of State to add “unique identifiers” to the passports of all registered sex offenders.Full story: http://www.chiangraitimes.com/u-s-sex-offenders-challenge-new-passport-law.html-- Chiang Rai Times 2016-02-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Finally, one thing that Obama did that I agree and applauds him, about time those sex offenders pay dearly for their criminally sexual deviances...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Might as well put yellow stars on all Jews, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Might as well put yellow stars on all Jews, then. why, they haven't commited a crime and aren't a danger to kids all over the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope. Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Very extreme picture in the article. It is suggesting that it is a code in the passport. NOT STAMPED on the front! Personally I think it should be in the biometric not visible on the printed page! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope. Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Many more sex offenders than just kiddy fiddlers. How about statutory rape e.g.? 17 yo boy has sex with 15 yo girl, mark in passport follows. At least that is the impression I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Finally, one thing that Obama did that I agree and applauds him, about time those sex offenders pay dearly for their criminally sexual deviances...... I am mulling over the idea whether they should even be allowed passports and permitted to travel to other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope.Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Many more sex offenders than just kiddy fiddlers. How about statutory rape e.g.? 17 yo boy has sex with 15 yo girl, mark in passport follows. At least that is the impression I get. So are you suggesting that the 17 year DIDN'T break a law? Or that it is acceptable to have sex with a 15 year old because he was 17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) A very slippery slope. Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Many more sex offenders than just kiddy fiddlers. How about statutory rape e.g.? 17 yo boy has sex with 15 yo girl, mark in passport follows. At least that is the impression I get. yes... I think it is a very questionable law, precisely for this reason. is the same thing required for a murderer? I think this kind of information has nothing to do on a passport, beyond the problem of where to draw the line between dangerous sex offenders and hermless sex offenders (am I right when I believe people caught hiring a prostitute are sex offenders?) a couple of interesting articles: http://www.businessinsider.com/surprising-things-that-could-make-you-a-sex-offender-2013-10?IR=T http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/mapped_sex_offender_registry_laws_on_statutory_rape_public_urination_and.html having such a mark on a passport is just an invitation to get abused, framed or given a hard time by officers all your life just because you urinated in public when drunk. I can't understand how such a law could be enacted - are we sure the news are not fake? Edited February 18, 2016 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 This will never pass the Constitutional test Sex offender status is determined by State Law, and since there are 50 States that all have differing standards for "sex offender" status there is no way a Federal Court is going to allow this "feel good" law to pass the "equal protection" clause in the US Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope.Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Many more sex offenders than just kiddy fiddlers. How about statutory rape e.g.? 17 yo boy has sex with 15 yo girl, mark in passport follows. At least that is the impression I get. yes... I think it is a very questionable law, precisely for this reason. is the same thing required for a murderer? I think this kind of information has nothing to do on a passport, beyond the problem of where to draw the line between dangerous sex offenders and hermless sex offenders (am I right when I believe people caught hiring a prostitute are sex offenders?) a couple of interesting articles: http://www.businessinsider.com/surprising-things-that-could-make-you-a-sex-offender-2013-10?IR=T http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/mapped_sex_offender_registry_laws_on_statutory_rape_public_urination_and.html Johns are not sex offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Johns are not sex offenders. according to the articles I linked they are, at least in some states ! Edited February 18, 2016 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope.Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Many more sex offenders than just kiddy fiddlers. How about statutory rape e.g.? 17 yo boy has sex with 15 yo girl, mark in passport follows. At least that is the impression I get. yes... I think it is a very questionable law, precisely for this reason. is the same thing required for a murderer? I think this kind of information has nothing to do on a passport, beyond the problem of where to draw the line between dangerous sex offenders and hermless sex offenders (am I right when I believe people caught hiring a prostitute are sex offenders?) a couple of interesting articles: http://www.businessinsider.com/surprising-things-that-could-make-you-a-sex-offender-2013-10?IR=T http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/mapped_sex_offender_registry_laws_on_statutory_rape_public_urination_and.html having such a mark on a passport is just an invitation to get abused, framed or given a hard time by officers all your life just because you urinated in public when drunk. I can't understand how such a law could be enacted - are we sure the news are not fake? I'm pretty sure that a murderer would ACTUALLY be in jail! Surely the sex offenders in the US are in a central register anyway! If not. What a fxxking cockup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Might as well put yellow stars on all Jews, then. Seriously? These are convicted/registered sex offenders. It's not remotely like identifying an innocent person based on ethnicity or religion. I'm amazed anyone would have a problem with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 yes... I think it is a very questionable law, precisely for this reason. is the same thing required for a murderer? I think this kind of information has nothing to do on a passport, beyond the problem of where to draw the line between dangerous sex offenders and hermless sex offenders (am I right when I believe people caught hiring a prostitute are sex offenders?) a couple of interesting articles: http://www.businessinsider.com/surprising-things-that-could-make-you-a-sex-offender-2013-10?IR=T http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/mapped_sex_offender_registry_laws_on_statutory_rape_public_urination_and.html having such a mark on a passport is just an invitation to get abused, framed or given a hard time by officers all your life just because you urinated in public when drunk. I can't understand how such a law could be enacted - are we sure the news are not fake? I'm pretty sure that a murderer would ACTUALLY be in jail! Surely the sex offenders in the US are in a central register anyway! If not. What a fxxking cockup! murderers are released once they did the time... don't you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtRock Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A civil rights group has filed a lawsuit challenging a law that will require sex offenders to be identified on their passports. Holding a passport is not a legal requirement. No need to bring in laws. Passport denied will suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Labeling of any kind on an identification document bothers me. First, sex offenders. On paper, it looks ok. Political affiliation? Done. Discrimination based on what zip/postal code is in it? Done. Sorry, I won't hire you because your id shows that you prefer chihuahuas over a doberman. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradavarius37 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Labeling of any kind on an identification document bothers me. First, sex offenders. On paper, it looks ok. Political affiliation? Done. Discrimination based on what zip/postal code is in it? Done. Sorry, I won't hire you because your id shows that you prefer chihuahuas over a doberman. Next! Yes, its exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 yes... I think it is a very questionable law, precisely for this reason. is the same thing required for a murderer? I think this kind of information has nothing to do on a passport, beyond the problem of where to draw the line between dangerous sex offenders and hermless sex offenders (am I right when I believe people caught hiring a prostitute are sex offenders?) a couple of interesting articles: http://www.businessinsider.com/surprising-things-that-could-make-you-a-sex-offender-2013-10?IR=T http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/08/mapped_sex_offender_registry_laws_on_statutory_rape_public_urination_and.html having such a mark on a passport is just an invitation to get abused, framed or given a hard time by officers all your life just because you urinated in public when drunk. I can't understand how such a law could be enacted - are we sure the news are not fake? I'm pretty sure that a murderer would ACTUALLY be in jail! Surely the sex offenders in the US are in a central register anyway! If not. What a fxxking cockup! murderers are released once they did the time... don't you know that? REALLY! In the USA can you Actually name one murderer alive that was released from jail.. Ie: he didn't get life imprisonment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldragon Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Johns are not sex offenders. according to the articles I linked they are, at least in some states ! And I'm sure there are some who consider those who consume certain herbs to be illicit drug users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Might as well put yellow stars on all Jews, then. isn't that essentially the same thing? not a spurious comparison in the least. personally i question whether of not a convicted sex offender, murderer or anything to that effect is even allowed a passport. we should all start with the same basic rights, i agree, however certain actions must have consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 "REALLY! In the USA can you Actually name one murderer alive that was released from jail.. Ie: he didn't get life imprisonment!" About 3% offenders in state prisons for violent crime murderers in 2011. Of violent criminals let out on parole, murder and negligent homicide lowest percentage to return for parole violations. I would rather have a murderer living next door than someone convicted of violent assault, if I had to choose.... http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p12tar9112.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope. Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Mooning someone, streaking, urinating in public, juveniles sexting each other . All can result in getting you classified as a sexual deviant and registered. A very slippery slope in deed. Never mind the consensual sex between a 15 and 17 year olds. Common sense is extremely rare in law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Sure. For paedophiles and crimes against minors. These people if and when they get out should not be given passports ever. Just last month the IRS was given the power to revoke a passport if they even think you owe 50k in taxes. This latest law is just giving more and more control over people to the govt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Might as well put yellow stars on all Jews, then. why, they haven't commited a crime and aren't a danger to kids all over the world "aren't a danger to kids all over the world" Palestinian kids living in the west bank may have a different opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 A very slippery slope. Only if you are a kiddy fiddler. Great law. Keep the deviants out of circulation. Many more sex offenders than just kiddy fiddlers. How about statutory rape e.g.? 17 yo boy has sex with 15 yo girl, mark in passport follows. At least that is the impression I get. I met a guy in the US a couple years ago that had gotten a 15 year old pregnant when he was 17. He had just gotten out of jail, in his early 30's after doing 15 years in the penitentiary. I hired him to do a few odd jobs (trimming trees etc) and did a background search on him. He was telling the truth. Guy did 15 years and is a felon sexual predator in the eye of the law. 'Lawmakers' all too often have no concept of real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onni4me Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Then we can add some more info to the passport also: - committed a crime, whether it was speeding or not paying your taxes or getting drunk in public - religion - divorced/adultery - employed/unemployed - DNA sample - any nutters in family - annual income/wealth Soon we will arrive to paradise, it's called Dystopia. Whatever happened to done your jail time and having a second chance? Will this be denied from now on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) Might as well put yellow stars on all Jews, then. why, they haven't commited a crime and aren't a danger to kids all over the world Somtamnication should be barred for 25 years for his anti semantic remark Maybe his love one left him for a nice Jewish Person and that cause his problem I will pray for his soul in Church this week Edited February 18, 2016 by HenryB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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