My early ownership comments on the Yamaha R3

[DLang]

^^ Thanks.

 

I'm edging towards the CBR500.

 

Although close, I think the low end torque makes it okay for the in town riding, and it is obviously more comfortable and more suited to the highway riding. 

 

I think that this advantage of the 500 is bigger than the in town advantage of the R3. 

[JAFO]

On 2/27/2017 at 1:20 PM, DLang said:

I'd be looking at comfortable cruising at 155-160kph for 1-2 hours, when on the highway. Any comments on how the R3 is at this? comfortable/uncomfortable. 

 

Thanks. 

So you want to cruise at 155kph for 1-2 hrs? LOL. Good Luck with that in these parts.

 

FWIIW I wouldn't do that on the R3 but then again I wouldn't be on a open flat highway for that many kms. At that speed the R3 would be pulling 10K plus RPM and for 1-2 hrs is like an endurance run. I have no idea what R's you will pull on a 500 at that speed. I have had my R3 at sustained speeds of 130kms for about 20 to 30 minutes until I run into a town or a police check point. For me I can ride the R3 for appx 150kms or so before I need to stop or rest. Extremely easy to ride which makes the rider less tired but the R3 was not built or designed to be a long haul cruiser. Its a canyon carver sport bike. Sounds like your making the right choice with the CBR500 based on your style and expectations. Its sits high and upright. this position suits the highway riders.

 

Good Luck 

[JAFO]

I added a Leo Vince Titanium exhaust to the bike. Its a little louder than I expected but it runs much nicer and I dropped another 5kgs or so off the bike.  Plus it looks waaaay better. I brought back a PCV (Power Commander 5)from the US and just finished up with getting a MAP loaded in.  Now I need to find time to install it. Currently the bike has a small backfire between shifts so it is running a bit lean.  This programmer will clean up the fuel curve, change the timing and add a bit more power in conjunction with the exhaust and the air box update with a better air cleaner. Again I am not doing this other than for fun and tinkering. I do not expect some super fast moto. If I wanted that I would have bought a liter bike. But I have to say I really like how nimble this moto for just messing around. Its a lot of fun to ride for what it is. 

[Happy Grumpy]

You'll notice a decent bump in performance with that. Will you add a K&N air filter too?

[JAFO]

2 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:

You'll notice a decent bump in performance with that. Will you add a K&N air filter too?

I added the BMC air filter http://www.bmcairfilters.com/ Its from the Yamaha R3 race shop.

 

I look forward to the new fuel MAP once I can get time to install the PC5.

 

 

[01322521959]

Good luck with that. Saw a big BMW trying to do that on that roller coaster called Bangnatrat. He didn't keep it up for long.

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[JAFO]

17 hours ago, 01322521959 said:

Good luck with that. Saw a big BMW trying to do that on that roller coaster called Bangnatrat. He didn't keep it up for long.

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Good luck with what.....? 55. Need a point of reference 

[DLang]

Id guess he posted in the wrong thread. 

[DLang]

Will you be getting a dyno when it has the full pipe, air filter and fuel controller set up?

 

Id be very interested to see it.

[Lampang2]

2017 yzf-r3.

42 hp, 2 cylinders 321 cc

 

1989 zxr-400

62 hp.

4 cylinders, 398cc (68cc more on double the cylinders)

Absolutely insanely good road handling, rock solid chassis.

 

Somehow time is moving backwards, almost 30 years down the drain and counting.

 

 

[JAFO]

8 hours ago, Lampang2 said:

2017 yzf-r3.

42 hp, 2 cylinders 321 cc

 

1989 zxr-400

62 hp.

4 cylinders, 398cc (68cc more on double the cylinders)

Absolutely insanely good road handling, rock solid chassis.

 

Somehow time is moving backwards, almost 30 years down the drain and counting.

 

 

I know, Weird to me as well. I had a RVF 400 (NC35) some 5 years ago here in Thailand. Loved that Moto. Single sided Pro Swingarm, V4 motor. 60ish HP. Only issue like the ZXR400 is parts and availability here(Both are very good moto's for their time like the Honda  NSR 250SP). I had to order everything from the UK and pay duty. Also had to mess with carbs and that was a pain. But to your point, way better moto then the R3 or any of the current 300 to 500 class available. I guess what I am enjoying more now though is EFI and parts availability. I also have no hassle with the police at road stops where as on the RVF I had quite a few because it was a grey market moto even though I went through and painstakingly did the bike legally. I'd love to see a YZF-R4 with a 400cc 4 cylinder, delta box frame etc. That would be a good moto.

[JAFO]

On 4/7/2017 at 1:13 AM, DLang said:

Will you be getting a dyno when it has the full pipe, air filter and fuel controller set up?

 

Id be very interested to see it.

Yes I will DLang, if I can find a place. In fact I would like to find a place and spend a day tuning a MAP. The one I downloaded is some guessing and I haven't installed the PC5 yet so its all a complete unknown at this juncture

[Rhys]

Thanks for the insights gents,  in the same situation.  I have a CBR 300 R looking to move up to the CB 500X.  However, do like the R-3.

 

Cheers mates

On the pegs

[canthai55]

1 hour ago, Rhys said:

 I have a CBR 300 R looking to move up to the CB 500X.

When I was looking for my next bike, went to Pop and rented a bunch. Versys 650, 500X, CB650F. Found the 500X to be down on power quite a bit compared to the others.

[Celer et Audax]

R3 its normal if you not more 170 cm tall and not more 70 kg( so for children) if 180cm and up and 90 kg and up its discomfort and moped not GO... in mountainsIf you competent ofcouse you can ride moped for children or for guus who start drive.
No slipper clutch
Non-adustabke front fork.
Sport bike? [emoji6]
Yes its moped look as sport bike. And yes this is moped can give some fun.
Company need make money. So do it.
And for Thailand its not very usable.
In the city is slow slow traffic and requires sharp turns in the lane.
So niked(street) bike or moped be much better. I am even not talking about small scooter.
in the mountains a lot of steep descent, and Wake up. This scooter is not very good engine braking. and obviously do not have the power to feel confident on the steep hillup road in mountains an normal adult male of 90 kg.
PS
Try RC390 its much more better on track for children;)
Or duke 390 much better for Thai road. Or even duke 200.
Duke 690 ...?

A moped is usually max 50 cc and has pedals so as the R3 is 320 cc and does not have pedals I don't see how you can call it a moped!!
I ride an R3 and with my gf have ridden many trips around Thailand and have found that the R3 is great even on the climbs and is also great in bkk traffic so a very good fit for me
The extra weight of any luggage when traveling is not an issue for us as my gf has a Z300 so she carries her own stuff lol
I would agree that it is a great "entry" bike but to be honest at the moment I don't feel the need to step up
I don't find that riding long distances a problem, I'm 6 ft tall and am around 80 kg but have never felt uncomfortable riding for any distance
Im enjoying the post and to all you fellow bikers out there "enjoy and stay safe" what ever your chosen ride is


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[Celer et Audax]

I'd be looking at comfortable cruising at 155-160kph for 1-2 hours, when on the highway. Any comments on how the R3 is at this? comfortable/uncomfortable. 
 
Thanks. 

I find mine very comfortable


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[Pepper9187]

 

On 2/27/2017 at 1:20 PM, DLang said:

I'd be looking at comfortable cruising at 155-160kph for 1-2 hours, when on the highway. Any comments on how the R3 is at this? comfortable/uncomfortable. 

 

Thanks. 

 

Sorry but where do you plan to drive 2hrs at 160km/h on a highway in Thailand ...

 

Bikes = no tollways and on "highways" = stick to the left lanes or pay 400 THB, anyway i don't even know how we call call these mains roads "highways".

Best case you open the throttle a couple of minutes and just pray for nobody to make a savage god save the queen u-turn right in your face (which are usually every 1km on highways).

 

But anyway, definitely the CB500 is much more comfortable compared to the R3 or ninja due to the riding position which is not torturing your back and arms at every seconds. The taller you are the worst it's gonna be for you to be riding a R3 or Ninja.

 

Some people say it's a good bike (CB500), i tried it and i found it slow as hell with no soul, no charisma, also i hated the ABS system which i found to be triggered way too early, i felt like the wheels were going to jump out every time i was breaking. I don't know if it was just bad luck or if this problem was solved on later versions (i tried it like 2-3 years ago).

 

The best all around big but not too big bike you can find around here is the CB400 VTEC or Revo, nimble as hell, and a true lovely soul, impressive power too for a 400CC (stock is like 57HP with a few mods you can hit 60+HP, especially with the carbs one), excellent ridding position, exceptionally well balanced and very low ground clearance.

 

Only one thing i wish it had better stock shock and fork springs which i found way too soft for thailand's roads.

 

 

 

 

 

[JAFO]

Few pics of the Leo Vince exhaust installed

 

 

 

I tuned the exhaust with an adjustable Corsa GP insert and cleaned it up. Sounds much nicer and not as loud and feels cleaner through the powerband without the Power Commander  5 and air cleaner installed yet. 

Edited April 20, 2017 by JAFO

[Happy Grumpy]

That's going to be one lovely light and nimble piece of fun. 

 

Well done. 

[JAFO]

3 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:

That's going to be one lovely light and nimble piece of fun. 

 

Well done. 

Well HG, It is what it is. Have to keep in mind that it isn't a top flight liter bike with the best tech like an R1 but if one enjoys it as such then it is quite fun and doesn't kill the pocket book.

 

Cheers 

[Pepper9187]

With all the money you'r gona spend on mods maybe you should have just bought a cb650f straight

[JAFO]

41 minutes ago, Pepper9187 said:

With all the money you'r gona spend on mods maybe you should have just bought a cb650f straight

Honestly I haven't spent much at all. The cost of what I have put in it (Including original moto purchase) will not exceed 200K bht however that aside and more importantly I am doing it for the fun of it. I like messing around with things. I considered bigger bikes initially but did not want to plunk out the cash as it not a primary mode of transpo and I wanted to play around on a smaller CC bike. My YZF is now down to probably 350lbs wet versus the 465 wet of the Honda and is narrower in width. It just makes the lil thing fun to ride up in the mountains and even easier in traffic.

 

Don't get me wrong, the 650F is a nice moto (albeit I have always been a Yamaha owner). 

 

Cheers

[Pepper9187]

2 minutes ago, JAFO said:

Honestly I haven't spent much at all. The cost of what I have put in it (Including original moto purchase) will not exceed 200K bht however that aside and more importantly I am doing it for the fun of it. I like messing around with things. I considered bigger bikes initially but did not want to plunk out the cash as it not a primary mode of transpo and I wanted to play around on a smaller CC bike. My YZF is now down to probably 350lbs wet versus the 465 wet of the Honda and is narrower in width. It just makes the lil thing fun to ride up in the mountains and even easier in traffic.

 

Don't get me wrong, the 650F is a nice moto (albeit I have always been a Yamaha owner). 

 

Cheers

Aha it's fine i was just playing around !

Just by curiosity if you wana tell, how much does the full system leo vincy cost ? i guess it's somewhere around 20K ?

[JAFO]

14 hours ago, Pepper9187 said:

Aha it's fine i was just playing around !

Just by curiosity if you wana tell, how much does the full system leo vincy cost ? i guess it's somewhere around 20K ?

^No worries LOL....  I wasn't bothered by your question. It makes sense.  Many do that. Buy small then sink a ton of cash to make more power .  As I posted this is just a hobby to mess around.  

 

Answering your question;

The full exhaust was right at 12000bht (bought in BKK).

 

The power commander 5 was 6500bht (bought in US) 

 

The air cleaner 1800bht(bought in US).

 

Puts the total cost with moto at ~198k bht. Not to bad considering what it is.  

[Pepper9187]

12K for a leovince full system in Thailand ? Nice, "pretty cheap".

Careful with that air cleaner and power commander, don't waste your engine with crazy RPMs

[happysoul]

Hi Jafo, 

 

So, how's the R3 doing? 

 

I also got one withe full line, hf air filter and pcv. 

 

Did you get a good map for it? I noticed leaner fuel goes better as we are in a hot and humid country. 

 

Did you change the tires? Those Michelin are bad. Went down on the track. Got some irc 003, a pure joy. 

 

Here's the bike waiting for more upgrades

 

Cheers 

[maddox41]

I know this is a old post but what engine oil are most guys running the r3 on?, I live in Thailand so never colder them 20 c up to 45 c here. 

What does the r3 like the most  10w 40 or 20 w 50???